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People trying to compare Baltimore vs PSU
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You're right on the money ChiTownLion. Our inescapable link to pedophilia, riots, and NCAA sanctions, is our November, 2011 Board of Trustees. They painted a scarlet letter on a great university, destroying the reputation and legacy of a great man in the process. That said, those who rioted at Penn State were criminals and thugs. There was no excuse for their actions, any more than there are for those rioting in Baltimore.
I'd be careful with such a blanket statement. I'd talked with students that were at the event. I've talked with students that were charged by the cops. I've talked with students that were falsely charged by the cops. About the only students that I would have liked to speak with, but never had an opportunity to do so, were the ones that turned over the TV truck.
The students that turned over the TV truck made a dumb decision, and have paid a price for their actions. Most of the students in town that night would not characterize the event as a riot, and did not participate in a riot. As such, I'd hardly call them criminals and thugs.
Perhaps I'm parsing words here Tom, but I did say "those who rioted at Penn State were criminals and thugs" and to me, if you turn over a TV truck, you are "rioting". To the extent my post suggested that all students in the streets that night were rioting, I will simply say that was not my intent.
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One act makes the entire event a riot in the eyes of the stupid. I am not defending the students who turned over the TV truck, but that was a targeted response. Students were disgusted by the media who started a witch hunt on Joe and Penn State, and they took their aggression towards the media out on a TV truck (that had no one inside at the time). In actual riots, violent acts are perpetrated at random by mobs, such as burning cars and looting CVS, as we have seen in Baltimore. These acts have no relation to the issue at hand. You didn't see Penn State students set cars on fire and loot stores on College Avenue. You also didn't see mobs of Penn State students conduct violent acts. A small group of students, in a crowd of thousands, turned over a TV truck. It was stupid, but it wasn't a riot.
Trashing police cars in Baltimore is the same as trashing a TV truck in SC. The cop cars are, as you call it, a "targeted response" as well.
There are 11 photos there. 3 are identical. So 9 different photos. Of those 5 show violence. 4 of the 5 are of the same act. Not comparable at all. 0 fires. 0 people assaulted that night. 0 injuries.
That is certainly true. The damage done in Baltimore is exponentially greater. Sadly, perception is often reality.
I don't know the actual figures so I'll just guess here:
* Damage in State College: $15,000?
* Damage in Baltimore: $150,000,000?
* Civilian injuries in State College: 0?
* Civilian injuries in Baltimore: 50?
* Police injuries in State College: 0
* Police injuries in Baltimore: 20?
* Buildings destroyed in State College: 0
* Buildings destroyed in Baltimore: 20?
On a "sliding scale" from 1 to 10, what happened in State College is a 0.3 and what happened in Baltimore is an 8.
Like earthquakes, not all "riots" are equal and equating State College to Baltimore is asinine.
Regardless, our old guard BoT is nothing but an elite group of corrupt sons of b*tches.
* Damage in State College: $15,000?
* Damage in Baltimore: $150,000,000?
* Civilian injuries in State College: 0?
* Civilian injuries in Baltimore: 50?
* Police injuries in State College: 0
* Police injuries in Baltimore: 20?
* Buildings destroyed in State College: 0
* Buildings destroyed in Baltimore: 20?
On a "sliding scale" from 1 to 10, what happened in State College is a 0.3 and what happened in Baltimore is an 8.
Like earthquakes, not all "riots" are equal and equating State College to Baltimore is asinine.
Regardless, our old guard BoT is nothing but an elite group of corrupt sons of b*tches.
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Your point is a good one. The Penn State numbers are higher than what you suggest, but still light years behind Baltimore. Damage in State College was estimated at over 150K, much of it from the news truck, although there were some private vehicles damaged. No fair minded person would say the events are comparable, but it does give the national media fodder for their stories.
Weren’t there reports from students and others that members of the press were egging the students on and encouraging them to react to Paterno’s firing? I seem to recall reading that the police investigated the reports as well. Comparing the “riot” at PSU and what is going on in Baltimore is comical. Must be some troll on twitter that has it out for PSU. How many cops were injured at PSU? Was the national guard called out? Did the governor declare a state of emergency?
I was on College Ave for a portion of that night. I saw zero violence or acts of civil disobedience. ZERO. Sure there was a big crowd, there was some chanting going on, but I didn't witness one act of violence, property damage, aggression, etc. My friends and I left the street to go to a bar, ESPN was on, and the TV coverage made it seems like world war 3 broke out in State College. I'm not defending those that caused damage but I agree with the poster that said it was very targeted. And it seemed to be very isolated based on my personal experience.
Interesting. It's strange that a lot of the people the media talked to in Baltimore last night said they were protesting and not rioting. Guess people's idea of each can be interpreted in different ways. Having said that I think the comparison of the two situations is the most ridiculous comparison someone can make. JMO
It's actually Tim but thanks for asking. My wife is a PSU grad in 94. That being said I follow PSU a lot. Still doesn't explain your very thin skin. It's funny how if someone doesn't agree with everything you say it makes them a troll. Guess some are still working on adulthood.
Gambit, I cannot see the pic in your earlier post. I KNOW they are telling us its soooo much more convenient to post pics and all...
Tim, you're lecturing me on adulthood Michigan troll? In the last few days alone, your BS posts on the Michigan board show what a pathetic troll you are.
Despite this apparent glitch dem, I do think it has been easier to post pictures. Of course, maybe I'm posting them and no one is seeing them. I think this new format has it's benefits, and I'm still learning, but I do like the old format a lot more. Finally, to test the picture function, here is a photo of you from your crazy college years.....demlion as a college student
Which one of those posts isn't true. Sorry but pnnylion and some others give PSU fans a very bad rep. There are those in every fan base for sure. Shocks me that some on here would be ok with some of that thinking. Sorry I have an opinion and if it doesn't match then that makes me a troll. I'm a big boy. I can handle it. Keep stalking if you wish.
Yes, but in Baltimore, they didn't stop at police cars. They set other cars, multiple cars on fire. They looted stores. It has gone well beyond what happened at PSU.
dem, you know that Baltimore today and State College in November 2011 are very different.
That is the point. Yes, there was more damage in State College than the tipped over TV truck, but most people focus on the TV truck and say it was a riot. It was not a riot. Most people out and about in State College were watching and, maybe, yelling. Obviously what happened in State College and what is going on in Baltimore are very different. People in Baltimore are destroying their city. Penn State students did nowhere near the same level of damage.
The two situations don't even belong in the same conversation. Ridiculous that someone even tried to make the comparison IMO
Yeah but that is not all you said. I never disagreed they were different. but you made it sound like the only thing they did in SC was overturn a media truck, and that was conclusively shown to be untrue by fairgambit. You made the standard of how trashing the media truck was targeted response. The Balto folks who burned cop cars also targeted their response, and both events involved trashing cars that were neither police NOR media. Don't make a rash point way out over your skis then retreat to the basics when you are called on it. you are either for trashing property to make a protest or you are against it. You cannot have that part of it both ways, chief.
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Michigan troll, your self-righteous sanctimonious lecturing and bashing is the issue. Michigan has enormous problems of its own and the holier-than-thou BS from you and many others over 4 years is pure hypocrisy.
Go back over to your Michigan board and discuss your own issues instead of trolling us.
Go back over to your Michigan board and discuss your own issues instead of trolling us.
Too slim,
Otherwise you got it fair. BTW, I can see the other one now too, and just used it in a discussion with 9foldWhere did I lecture? Your the one researching me and lecturing me. Am I lying and saying there aren't bad apples in every fan base. Where did I say Michigan didn't have its own issues? These kind of posts from you toward me kinda show who's lecturing. Thanks for all the old posts and articles that I've already read. See you at state college later this year. My wife and I will be the couple wearing the house divided shirts we wear at every Michigan PSU game. Your instant anger and coming at me proved my original point BTW.
I would argue that what is happening in Baltimore is a 10....unbelievable.
The only thing that you equipped to understand is how to destroy your own trailer and boat.....anything else.......you have no clue!!!!!
