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Pitt DC Randy Bates to Ohio State?

Pitt with pretty suspect talent has generally had a good defense the past 3-4 years............. Narduzzi although not a great, ok not a good head coach is a good defensive coach.
 
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Pitt with pretty suspect talent has generally had a good defense the past 3-4 years............. Narduzzi although not a great, ok not a good head coach is a good defensive coach.
Nah, I'm not buying it Soupy. Pitt gave up 28.4 ppg this year, 91st in the country. He teaches his cornerbacks to hold and pass interfere on every play because he knows it won't get called on every play. He had all that time to prepare for mighty Toledo, the 7th best team in the MAC and lost.

In 2023, Pitt gave up 27.3 ppg which was 76th in the country. In bowl losses to Northwestern and Navy, and when he was DC at Michigan State against Baylor, he had a month to prepare and his defenses were beaten like a drum. Not a defensive guru whatsoever.

He's had losses to WVU with the Mountaineers using their third string QB and lost to Syracuse in 2023 when the Orange used a tight end at quarterback and they ran 66 out of 74 plays and they couldn't stop them and no one accused Syracuse's offensive line of being noteworthy.

 
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Nah, I'm not buying it Soupy. Pitt gave up 28.4 ppg this year, 91st in the country. He teaches his cornerbacks to hold and pass interfere on every play because he knows it won't get called on every play. He had all that time to prepare for mighty Toledo, the 7th best team in the MAC and lost.

In 2023, Pitt gave up 27.3 ppg which was 76th in the country. In bowl losses to Northwestern and Navy, and when he was DC at Michigan State against Baylor, he had a month to prepare and his defenses were beaten like a drum. Not a defensive guru whatsoever.

He's had losses to WVU with the Mountaineers using their third string QB and lost to Syracuse in 2023 when the Orange used a tight end at quarterback and they ran 66 out of 74 plays and they couldn't stop them and no one accused Syracuse's offensive line of being noteworthy.

He didn't coach at Michigan State.
 
Nah, I'm not buying it Soupy. Pitt gave up 28.4 ppg this year, 91st in the country. He teaches his cornerbacks to hold and pass interfere on every play because he knows it won't get called on every play. He had all that time to prepare for mighty Toledo, the 7th best team in the MAC and lost.

In 2023, Pitt gave up 27.3 ppg which was 76th in the country. In bowl losses to Northwestern and Navy, and when he was DC at Michigan State against Baylor, he had a month to prepare and his defenses were beaten like a drum. Not a defensive guru whatsoever.

He's had losses to WVU with the Mountaineers using their third string QB and lost to Syracuse in 2023 when the Orange used a tight end at quarterback and they ran 66 out of 74 plays and they couldn't stop them and no one accused Syracuse's offensive line of being noteworthy.

Oh so he teaches his defenders to hold and PI every play. He'll for right into OSU's system!!! 😉🤔😊
 
Oh so he teaches his defenders to hold and PI every play. He'll for right into OSU's system!!! 😉🤔😊
The physical CB/DB play seems to have become more prevalent across all of major college football. When the referees allow teams to get away with it and it proves to be a component of their winning formula, you can bet that the other teams will copy this technique.

Since JPJr was our #1 CB, we have been trying to play a more aggressive technique. It's difficult to do against teams like OSU because of the athleticism and physicality of their WR's like Smith.

I wonder if the Bates hire was influenced by Pitt's performance against former OSU QB McCord? The Syracuse QB (and coaching staff) appeared to be totally befuddled that Thursday night.

McCord threw multiple int's including pick 6's during that contest. Ironically, Pitt's performance that day may have led them to believe that they were actually better than they were and all that they needed to do to win was show up.

And consequently they lost 6 games in a row....
 
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Pitt with pretty suspect talent has generally had a good defense the past 3-4 years............. Narduzzi although not a great, ok not a good head coach is a good defensive coach.
Pitts defense has really regressed under defensive master Bates the last four years:
NCAA Rankings
Scoring Defense: 92/73/50/42
Total Defense: 81/49/22/39
 
Pitts defense has really regressed under defensive master Bates the last four years:
NCAA Rankings
Scoring Defense: 92/73/50/42
Total Defense: 81/49/22/39
I think that also correlates to Pitt's recruiting regressing too. Pitt is not having an easy time with the NIL and pay for play. I'm not criticizing this because it's a fact of life now, but their new AD practically was begging for people to make payments to players on the The Fan's Saturday Morning Pitt Show at 8:00 a.m. this past Saturday.
 
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Pitts defense has really regressed under defensive master Bates the last four years:
NCAA Rankings
Scoring Defense: 92/73/50/42
Total Defense: 81/49/22/39
I have to believe their talent level also has a lot to do with it.
 
I think that also correlates to Pitt's recruiting regressing too. Pitt is not having an easy time with the NIL and pay for play. I'm not criticizing this because it's a fact of life now, but their new AD practically was begging for people to make payments to players on the The Fan's Saturday Morning Pitt Show at 8:00 a.m. this past Saturday.
Yep, money is why Heather Lyke got canned despite upgrading just about every sport other than football.
 
I think that also correlates to Pitt's recruiting regressing too. Pitt is not having an easy time with the NIL and pay for play. I'm not criticizing this because it's a fact of life now, but their new AD practically was begging for people to make payments to players on the The Fan's Saturday Morning Pitt Show at 8:00 a.m. this past Saturday.
I went back and looked at the 247 Team Recruiting Composite ratings and Pitt really sucked

In 2024 they were 41st
2023 - 52nd
2022 - 76th

The talent just isn't there.
 
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I have to believe their talent level also has a lot to do with it.
And the talent is what it is due to their inability to be competitive with NIL. i.e. paying their players as other teams can do, so they lose many of the recruiting battles that they used to win or at least be competitive in.
 
He didn't coach at Michigan State.
The last name mentioned and to whom I was referring to in the thread, was Pat Narduzzi and he most certainly coached at Michigan State.

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Pitt with pretty suspect talent has generally had a good defense the past 3-4 years............. Narduzzi although not a great, ok not a good head coach is a good defensive coach.
 
The last name mentioned and to whom I was referring to in the thread, was Pat Narduzzi and he most certainly coached at Michigan State.

PSU Soupy said:
Pitt with pretty suspect talent has generally had a good defense the past 3-4 years............. Narduzzi although not a great, ok not a good head coach is a good defensive coach.

Breen is another worthless spammer.
 
Looks like they hired UVA coach to coach up the OL (could be Scottie Scheffler - checking on that)

 
I have to believe their talent level also has a lot to do with it.
Only Duquesne gave up more yards and point than Pitt did against Toledo all season. Duquesne gave up 1 more point at 21 more yards. That tells me it not completely a talent issue.
 
Looks like they hired UVA coach to coach up the OL (could be Scottie Scheffler - checking on that)

Bowen was at Penn State.

  • Penn State (2014)
    Graduate assistant
  • Fordham (2015)
    Offensive line coach
  • Fordham (2016)
    Offensive coordinator & offensive line coach
  • Maryland (2017)
    Offensive line coach
  • Penn State (2018–2019)
    Tight ends coach & offensive recruiting coordinator
  • Penn State (2019)
    Interim offensive coordinator
  • Penn State (2020)
    Co-offensive coordinator, offensive recruiting coordinator & tight ends coach
 
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