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Please call and object to the hosting of this Paterno-hating man and his vile book... (814

Rebersburg? That place is hoppin'. Ought to draw at least 4 people. The one that I'll protest about is coming up in Bug Tussle, hosted by Mayor Amos Wentworth Hogg. That will draw a crowd.


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(814)349-2611 or (814) 404-0506

Big ad in the CDT today:

Book Signing and Reception
with
RONALD A. SMITH
Author of His Newly Released Book
WOUNDED LIONS
Saturday, February 13th
FOREFATHERS BOOK SHOP
Rebersburg, PA... (814)349 2611 or (814) 404-0506
(814)349-2611 or (814) 404-0506

Big ad in the CDT today:

Book Signing and Reception
with
RONALD A. SMITH
Author of His Newly Released Book
WOUNDED LIONS
Saturday, February 13th
FOREFATHERS BOOK SHOP
Rebersburg, PA... (814)349 2611 or (814) 404-0506

Keith Bierly is the owner of that shop. They have a facebook page.
 
Rebersburg? That place is hoppin'. Ought to draw at least 4 people. The one that I'll protest about is coming up in Bug Tussle, hosted by Mayor Amos Wentworth Hogg. That will draw a crowd.


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I grew up there. Brush Valley was a great place to grow up in the 40s and 50s.
 
I grew up there. Brush Valley was a great place to grow up in the 40s and 50s.
It is a beautiful place. Not intended to show disrespect. Just pointing out that the author would seem to have a limited audience.
 
(814)349-2611 or (814) 404-0506

Big ad in the CDT today:

Book Signing and Reception
with
RONALD A. SMITH
Author of His Newly Released Book
WOUNDED LIONS
Saturday, February 13th
FOREFATHERS BOOK SHOP
Rebersburg, PA... (814)349 2611 or (814) 404-0506

How about not mentioning it instead since, as the other posters mentioned, it doesn't seem like there will be much of a turnout.
 
What is so vile about the book? Did you all read it? I have not just wondering
 
(814)349-2611 or (814) 404-0506

Big ad in the CDT today:

Book Signing and Reception
with
RONALD A. SMITH
Author of His Newly Released Book
WOUNDED LIONS
Saturday, February 13th
FOREFATHERS BOOK SHOP
Rebersburg, PA... (814)349 2611 or (814) 404-0506

Rebersburg... that should get a few Amish at his "book" signing. This man is fraud and embarrassment to the university. Don't buy into his lame attempt to besmirch JoePa. Fight lies with FACTS
 
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Oh man. Gary77's post is gone. I'm bummed. Here and gone like a wisp of smoke. Fitting for the ineffable enigma he is.
 
That is the next step. To be followed by the violent destruction of all purveyors of this filth. How dare they promote the spreading of these lies. Joe was the most perfect human being to grace this planet and never did anything that could be remotely interpreted as negative or wrong.


Join Elmo in the throne room.
 
Paul Silvis gets a mention in the Acknowledgements.
The great and mighty Paul Silvis.
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LMAO!
 
Does anyone know this guy? When I read the Freeh Report, I smelled a rat (turned out there were several) and started doing some homework myself, hoping to do something like what Ray Blehar is doing. I'm still keeping up. Ray has investigated this way better than I could, and while I might disagree with one or two of his conclusions, I'm confident he is absolutely on the right track, so I'll even defer to him on any point on which we might disagree. Anyway...around the fall of 2012, I was referred to a "Ron Smith" who was described to me as a former PSU professor. I called the number I was given (814 area code; and I still have the number) and had a very cordial, fairly lengthy (maybe 30-45 minutes?) conversation with him. I can't swear this is the same guy, but I'd bet it is. He seemed knowledgeable of the workings of the Penn State Athletic Department, as well as how they compared with other schools. He seemed to me to have a balanced view, but was primarily complimentary about the "Grand Experiment." I haven't looked for my handwritten notes, but will paste a portion of a document I wrote about the Penn State "culture" that was based on this conversation:



"President Erickson spoke to the Faculty Senate in January of 2012, noting that “Joe (Paterno) will always be remembered for the ‘Grand Experiment,’ the idea that high quality academics would go hand-in-hand with the highest caliber of championship athletic performance.” (wearecentralpa.com, 1/24/12) One retired Penn State professor told us that the “Grand Experiment” was a real and successful concept at Penn State that actually pre-dated Paterno’s tenure there (head coach from 1966-2011). This source credited former Penn State Director of Athletics Ernie McCoy (AD from 1952-1970) and former Penn State football coach Rip Engle (head coach from 1950 to 1965) with originating the “Grand Experiment.”


The source also reported that, while the University had admitted a limited number of football players as “president’s exceptions” academically and committed a few minor recruiting violations over the years, “Penn State ran the cleanest program in the country.” The source, who offered a balanced view of Paterno (“He did more for this University than anyone else, with the possible exception of (former Penn State president) George Atherton, but I wouldn’t want to live next door to him.”), also reported never having been asked to change an athlete’s grade."


I haven't read excerpts from this book, but it sounds like the angle is far different from the one I was presented. I did follow a thread on here about this a few weeks ago, not sure if this was the same guy I talked to or not. I contacted the person who referred me, and that person wasn't sure either. If it is the same guy, I wonder why the stories might be so different? If it's not the same guy, I should probably apologize if I've betrayed a confidence.

Anyone have a feel for whether this might be the same person? And if so, whether there might be a continuum?:

1. One story
2. Paul Silvis
3. New story

SR/BHF
 
Does anyone know this guy? When I read the Freeh Report, I smelled a rat (turned out there were several) and started doing some homework myself, hoping to do something like what Ray Blehar is doing. I'm still keeping up. Ray has investigated this way better than I could, and while I might disagree with one or two of his conclusions, I'm confident he is absolutely on the right track, so I'll even defer to him on any point on which we might disagree. Anyway...around the fall of 2012, I was referred to a "Ron Smith" who was described to me as a former PSU professor. I called the number I was given (814 area code; and I still have the number) and had a very cordial, fairly lengthy (maybe 30-45 minutes?) conversation with him. I can't swear this is the same guy, but I'd bet it is. He seemed knowledgeable of the workings of the Penn State Athletic Department, as well as how they compared with other schools. He seemed to me to have a balanced view, but was primarily complimentary about the "Grand Experiment." I haven't looked for my handwritten notes, but will paste a portion of a document I wrote about the Penn State "culture" that was based on this conversation:



"President Erickson spoke to the Faculty Senate in January of 2012, noting that “Joe (Paterno) will always be remembered for the ‘Grand Experiment,’ the idea that high quality academics would go hand-in-hand with the highest caliber of championship athletic performance.” (wearecentralpa.com, 1/24/12) One retired Penn State professor told us that the “Grand Experiment” was a real and successful concept at Penn State that actually pre-dated Paterno’s tenure there (head coach from 1966-2011). This source credited former Penn State Director of Athletics Ernie McCoy (AD from 1952-1970) and former Penn State football coach Rip Engle (head coach from 1950 to 1965) with originating the “Grand Experiment.”


The source also reported that, while the University had admitted a limited number of football players as “president’s exceptions” academically and committed a few minor recruiting violations over the years, “Penn State ran the cleanest program in the country.” The source, who offered a balanced view of Paterno (“He did more for this University than anyone else, with the possible exception of (former Penn State president) George Atherton, but I wouldn’t want to live next door to him.”), also reported never having been asked to change an athlete’s grade."


I haven't read excerpts from this book, but it sounds like the angle is far different from the one I was presented. I did follow a thread on here about this a few weeks ago, not sure if this was the same guy I talked to or not. I contacted the person who referred me, and that person wasn't sure either. If it is the same guy, I wonder why the stories might be so different? If it's not the same guy, I should probably apologize if I've betrayed a confidence.

Anyone have a feel for whether this might be the same person? And if so, whether there might be a continuum?:

1. One story
2. Paul Silvis
3. New story

SR/BHF
Ron Smith is a professor emeritus and lives in the State College area. He vilifies Joe Paterno and the "Grand Experiment" in his book.

He gave a presentation at PSU a few years ago
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/.../article_f8f781d9-e81a.
"Smith’s presentation outlined a tendency of Joe Paterno “to be in control.”
Smith said this tendency manifested itself in a situation with then-vice president of student affairs Vicky Triponey in which Triponey said in an archived email that Paterno sought to keep possible violations of the law or student code by his football players from becoming public knowledge."

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Nice to know that the idea of censoring those with whom one might disagree is alive and well. Maybe you should organize a book burning in State College?

Nice to know someone censored the definition of censor in your dictionary.
 
Join Elmo in the throne room.
can't find the referenced quote from bamasota... but seriously.. are there people who believe -- truly believe -- there are any people on the planet (or in happy valley or thereabouts) who think that way? that joe was infallible and the most perfect human being ever? truly delusional and they'd do well to crawl back into whatever hovel they emerged from and live out their lives there.. and only there.

for all our sakes.
 
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