Penn State football depth chart: The Lions247 Game 1 projection
The Nittany Lions no longer publish an official depth chart. But Lions247 gives you an idea of where things stand as the 2024 opener approaches.
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Thanks for your projection of the starters.![]()
Penn State football depth chart: The Lions247 Game 1 projection
The Nittany Lions no longer publish an official depth chart. But Lions247 gives you an idea of where things stand as the 2024 opener approaches.247sports.com
The thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.![]()
Penn State football depth chart: The Lions247 Game 1 projection
The Nittany Lions no longer publish an official depth chart. But Lions247 gives you an idea of where things stand as the 2024 opener approaches.247sports.com
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Penn State football depth chart: The Lions247 Game 1 projection
The Nittany Lions no longer publish an official depth chart. But Lions247 gives you an idea of where things stand as the 2024 opener approaches.247sports.com
Agreed.Thanks for your projection of the starters.
I believe that the players know where they stand for the most part on the depth chart heading into week 1.Agreed.
Beyond silly that a depth chart is not provided by Team.
Another reflection of everyone gets a trophy society?
247s, not mine lol just shares em when I came across them. Very little I see being different.Thanks for your projection of the starters.
Other than Jameson Williams, OSU doesn't particularly have a high hit rate of just turning loose of the high end WRs. Fleming hasn't achieved a 5* college career, but if we can get about 120% of his best season out of him this year, we might do well because of it.The thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.
Agreed.
Beyond silly that a depth chart is not provided by Team.
Another reflection of everyone gets a trophy society?
Recently watched OSU-Michigan highlights and was impressed with Fleming as a blocker.The thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.
Gee... He never was a number one and how he was a 5 star in HS I never understood. More like a Justin Shorter type 5 star I guess. Yet, I still hope the guy does well. However, the younger guys need to see the field and I think Koltenicky will see to it that they do.The thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.
Agree with your assessment, although I firmly believe that the new “scheme” will benefit the WR group to enable them to be effective ( at a minimum …C+/B-) . This, in turn, will take some pressure off the OL and backs by preventing teams from overplaying the run/stuffing the box. —With our abundance of high quality tight ends, it wouldn’t shock me to see Warren and Renolds split out or in the slot for certain groups of plays , similar to Gesicki…. And Brett Brackett back in the JoePa days. Also believe that Ethan Black, the walk on( because of his speed) may find his way to the field at WR for some “niche” plays. JMOMy ratings:
QB B+
RB A
WR C
TE A-
OL B
DT B
DE A
LB C (due to depth, starters B)
CB B
S B+
That's the hope. PSU struggled to sustain drives vs top teams last year in spite of having great RBs and 3 OL who went to the NFL. You have to have a 15+ yd passing threat to set up the ground game.Agree with your assessment, although I firmly believe that the new “scheme” will benefit the WR group to enable them to be effective ( at a minimum …C+/B-) . This, in turn, will take some pressure off the OL and backs by preventing teams from overplaying the run/stuffing the box.
Agree. I re-watched the OSU/UM game and Fleming did some really nice blocking and made a couple of difficult catches.Recently watched OSU-Michigan highlights and was impressed with Fleming as a blocker.
Not a small item for a team that is looking for explosive plays.
Fleming is big physical receiver. I expect his contributions to impact third down and red zone. CJF likes route runners who can move chains. We'll see what AK brings in terms of formations. I expect a lot of multi-WR sets to confuse D. I like Wallace when healthy and Clifford was always bit of a project as not physical or super fast. He hopefully brings routes and hands. JF went strong in WR portal last year with Cephas and McClain and neither worked. Also seemed to give KLS the nudge out. He only brought Fleming so must be feeling good about Clifford, Tre, Evans etcThe thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.
Fleming is big physical receiver. I expect his contributions to impact third down and red zone. CJF likes route runners who can move chains. We'll see what AK brings in terms of formations. I expect a lot of multi-WR sets to confuse D. I like Wallace when healthy and Clifford was always bit of a project as not physical or super fast. He hopefully brings routes and hands. JF went strong in WR portal last year with Cephas and McClain and neither worked. Also seemed to give KLS the nudge out. He only brought Fleming so must be feeling good about Clifford, Tre, Evans etc
Bigger question? Who is Collins at CB, possibly beating Kimber. Not sure I even saw his name on chart previously
Coaches are big on loyalty. Unless Fleming was head and shoulders better the coaches will stay with a guy that has been here. And he may move up as the season goes along and he proves he deserves it.The thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.
Fleming is big physical receiver. I expect his contributions to impact third down and red zone. CJF likes route runners who can move chains. We'll see what AK brings in terms of formations. I expect a lot of multi-WR sets to confuse D. I like Wallace when healthy and Clifford was always bit of a project as not physical or super fast. He hopefully brings routes and hands. JF went strong in WR portal last year with Cephas and McClain and neither worked. Also seemed to give KLS the nudge out. He only brought Fleming so must be feeling good about Clifford, Tre, Evans etc
Bigger question? Who is Collins at CB, possibly beating Kimber. Not sure I even saw his name on chart previously
Collins was a portal transfer in before 2023 season from Mississippi State. Staff wanted him to add weight but they liked him in practices. Apparently ready to play.Fleming is big physical receiver. I expect his contributions to impact third down and red zone. CJF likes route runners who can move chains. We'll see what AK brings in terms of formations. I expect a lot of multi-WR sets to confuse D. I like Wallace when healthy and Clifford was always bit of a project as not physical or super fast. He hopefully brings routes and hands. JF went strong in WR portal last year with Cephas and McClain and neither worked. Also seemed to give KLS the nudge out. He only brought Fleming so must be feeling good about Clifford, Tre, Evans etc
Bigger question? Who is Collins at CB, possibly beating Kimber. Not sure I even saw his name on chart previously
The simple addition of a damn play action pass fairly frequently will benefit them all. By the Illinois game last season I wanted to kick some offensive coordinator (Yucick) ass!Agree with your assessment, although I firmly believe that the new “scheme” will benefit the WR group to enable them to be effective ( at a minimum …C+/B-) . This, in turn, will take some pressure off the OL and backs by preventing teams from overplaying the run/stuffing the box. —With our abundance of high quality tight ends, it wouldn’t shock me to see Warren and Renolds split out or in the slot for certain groups of plays , similar to Gesicki…. And Brett Brackett back in the JoePa days. Also believe that Ethan Black, the walk on( because of his speed) may find his way to the field at WR for some “niche” plays. JMO
The thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.
Agreed.
Beyond silly that a depth chart is not provided by Team.
Another reflection of everyone gets a trophy society?
All true. But why not give paying public the info. Maybe the can up the seat license a few more $s and we can get the info?I believe that the players know where they stand for the most part on the depth chart heading into week 1.
Situational football has made the game less straight forward wrt who is on the field at any given time.
The projected defensive starters in the link provided have 3 LB's starting. DC Allen in the past has preferred to utilize the 4-2-5 set. Different packages have different personnel requirements.
Sports played at this level is a meritocracy. Trying to utilize specific player's skill sets and keeping them motivated and engaged is not necessarily the same as everybody gets a trophy.
JMO
We can also hope this means Wallace and Evans have developed and are ready for big years. Clifford beating out Saunders in the slot, no one predicted that a couple years ago.The thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.
Our WR room is what it is, and you have to dance with the one that brought you. My only question is how or can Coach K maximize what those guys bring to the table, and will Allar be improved, which he MUST be.The thing that sticks out to me is WR2 where it says Evans or Fleming. It would be great to see Evans take the next step but it doesn't appear like Fleming is the #1 we've been hoping for.
I agree thay Allar must be significantly improved. And even if the WRs only show marginal improvement then hopefully a much better Allar along with better schemes from Kotelnicki help make up for what we are lacking from WR.Our WR room is what it is, and you have to dance with the one that brought you. My only question is how or can Coach K maximize what those guys bring to the table, and will Allar be improved, which he MUST be.
I don't disagree but....Allar won't "significantly improve" if the WRs don't also significantly improve. The passing game was fine with TEs and RBs. I'll also add that our running game lacked which also negatively impacts the passing game. The way teams defenses us after the Illinio game was to play at least 7 in the box to stop the running game, bring at least 4 or five on every play to pressure the QB if it is a running game, and play the WRs in man tight, daring them to beat you deep (and hoping the pressure gets to the QB in time if they do).I agree thay Allar must be significantly improved. And even if the WRs only show marginal improvement then hopefully a much better Allar along with better schemes from Kotelnicki help make up for what we are lacking from WR.
With that said, the QB and playcalling are only part of it so if these WRs can't get it done on the field with talent (route running, separation, contested catches blocking downfield, etc) it will hold us back from winning the big games.
Our WR room is what it is, and you have to dance with the one that brought you. My only question is how or can Coach K maximize what those guys bring to the table, and will Allar be improved, which he MUST be.
I've wondered this too but we do put a TE into motion and snap the ball when they are, basically, a WR. A couple of comments:TE room is deep. Get a TE some reps at WR. Did anyone complain when Gesicki was winning jump balls?
On Allar and receivers, I disagree only a little. On occasion Allar didn't even see receiver's running open and his accuracy was very erratic at times. He is much much more comfortable throwing certain passes. If he gets pressured even a little (a lot last year) he begins to get the 'Heebie-jeebies'. I give him a pass on some things because of having an OC it seemed was a bit of a nut job pushing his extremely difficult scheme (due to an insane number of variables) before any other considerations.I don't disagree but....Allar won't "significantly improve" if the WRs don't also significantly improve. The passing game was fine with TEs and RBs. I'll also add that our running game lacked which also negatively impacts the passing game. The way teams defenses us after the Illinio game was to play at least 7 in the box to stop the running game, bring at least 4 or five on every play to pressure the QB if it is a running game, and play the WRs in man tight, daring them to beat you deep (and hoping the pressure gets to the QB in time if they do).
Adding that CJF was not happy with the entire scheme last year. How do we know this? After a successful 2022 offensively, CJF couldn't even wait until the end of last season to fire the OC.
It starts with the scheme and it appears that our biggest problem has been the offensive scheme given the talent available in 2023. It is really clear to me that there was a complete misunderstanding between QB and WR. This didn't happen between QB and TE or QB and RB. So the issue is QB and WR.