PSU BoT - retirement dates and Board turnover

[blion72]

this is probably an easy question for those who follow our BoT and their terms. I am wondering how long it will take to purge out all the members of the BoT that were key parts of the 2011-12 mess (their mess). some of these people must be getting near the end of their terms, up for replacement. There is new political leadership in PA, and it would seem easier to start getting these people out one by one until the BoT no longer has ties to the past.

how long will this take?

 

[Tom McAndrew]

ugh, I've posted the answer to your question a few times, but have never saved the info.

I'll try to figure it out either later 2nite or tomorrow, and will re-post.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

ugh, I've posted the answer to your question a few times, but have never saved the info.

I'll try to figure it out either later 2nite or tomorrow, and will re-post.

Maybe you'd better pin it.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Here's a quick summary:

Governor Appointed:
1. Mark Dambly
- joined October 2010. Term limit is 15 years, so he’s eligible to serve until 2015
2. Paul Silvis
- joined October 2010. Term limit is 15 years, so he’s eligible to serve until 2015

Ag Society Elected:
1. Keith Eckel
- joined July 2001. Term limit is 15 years from July 2003, so he’s eligible to serve until 2018
2. Betsy Huber
- joined July 2005. Term limit is 15 years from then, so she’s eligible to serve until 2020 (assuming that she’s re-elected in 2017)
3. Keith Masser
- joined July 2008. Term limit is 15 years from then, so he’s eligible to serve until 2023 (assuming that he’s re-elected in 2017 and 2020)
4. Carl Shaffer
- joined July 1997. Term limit is 15 years from July 2003, so he’s eligible to serve until 2018. He is leaving the BOT on June 30 of this year

Business & Industry:
1. Ken Frazier
- joined July 2009. Term limit is 15 years from then, so he’s eligible to serve until 2023. He is leaving the BOT on June 30 of this year
2. Ed Hintz
- joined July 1994. Term limit is 15 years from July 2003, so he’s eligible to serve until 2018. He is leaving the BOT on June 30 of this year
3. Ira Lubert
- joined July 1997 and served until 2000. Rejoined in 2007 and served until 2013. Rejoined in January 2015 to serve out the balance of Karen Peetz’s term (until June 30, 2016). I’m not 100% sure which term limit rule applies to him. The ByLaws have rules governing term limits for trustees that started July 2013 or later (12 years), term limits for trustees that started July 2003 through July 2012 (15 years) and term limits for trustees that started prior to July 2003 (15 years from July 2003). Lubert started his three times on the BOT during each of the aforementioned periods, but his service has not been continuous, so I’m not sure which term limit rule applies to him.

My answer does not address Emeriti Trustees that were on the BOT as elected/appointed members in Nov. 2011.

 

[Mary Anne]

Jesse Arnelle was a bot from 1969 to 2014.

 

[bjf1984]

this is probably an easy question for those who follow our BoT and their terms. I am wondering how long it will take to purge out all the members of the BoT that were key parts of the 2011-12 mess (their mess). some of these people must be getting near the end of their terms, up for replacement. There is new political leadership in PA, and it would seem easier to start getting these people out one by one until the BoT no longer has ties to the past.

how long will this take?

TomMc will have all those details.

I'd go with the much shorter answer though......and that answer is that it will take as long as it takes to get Board reform passed through the Pennsylvania Legislature. Until that time, so long as we are shackled to the current B&I and Agric and Personal Proxy Appointee system, the only thing that changes are the names on the nameplates on the desk.

Broadhurst....Dandrea?? What's the difference

The "faces" from 2011 will all be gone relatively soon......heck, most of them are gone NOW. Do you see any difference with how the Board operates?? Aside from the OG becoming even MORE obstinate?
The only change over the last three years is that there are now 9 folks in the Elected seats that actually took those seats in elections featuring engaged constituents.

Call/write/visit your Reps and Senators......even if they are not "your" Reps and Senators - call/write/visit them anyway.

etc

 

[mbahses]

TomMc will have all those details.

I'd go with the much shorter answer though......and that answer is that it will take as long as it takes to get Board reform passed through the Pennsylvania Legislature. Until that time, so long as we are shackled to the current B&I and Agric and Personal Proxy Appointee system, the only thing that changes are the names on the nameplates on the desk.

Broadhurst....Dandrea?? What's the difference

The "faces" from 2011 will all be gone relatively soon......heck, most of them are gone NOW. Do you see any difference with how the Board operates?? Aside from the OG becoming even MORE obstinate?
The only change over the last three years is that there are now 9 folks in the Elected seats that actually took those seats in elections featuring engaged constituents.

Call/write/visit your Reps and Senators......even if they are not "your" Reps and Senators - call/write/visit them anyway.

etc

"Faces"?

More like feces.

 

[BobPSU92]

Can we retire them early? There is precedence.

 

[lionlurker]

When they put in the term limits, didn't they specifically eliminate the limits for the power brokers that were already in place, somehow? I am pretty sure they did something like that.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

When they put in the term limits, didn't they specifically eliminate the limits for the power brokers that were already in place, somehow? I am pretty sure they did something like that.

Depends on how you define that. It's not as though the entire power bloc was granted exemptions from the term limit rules.

There are two exceptions to term limits:

1. there are no term limits for Emeriti Trustees. They have that status as long as they are alive. At the same time, they have no votes, so it's not as though they can actively control anything as Emeriti Trustees.
2. term limits do not apply to a trustee that is serving as Chair of the Board of Trustees. This doesn't mean that all current or former Chairs are exempt from term limits; just that if they are Chair when they hit their respective term limit that they are exempt.

 

[lionlurker]

THE chair, or a chair of any committee?

Hmmph. I thought sure that they grandfathered themselves in when they did that rule.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

THE chair, or a chair of any committee?

"THE Chair."

The actual text in the ByLaws is:

"This provision for term limits shall not apply to members of the Board of Trustees while serving in the capacity as Chair of the Board of Trustees. Such individuals will be considered eligible for re-election or re-appointment as a member by the respective constituent group."

If you want to go goofy about this, you could wonder why this applies to "members" (plural), when the ByLaws does not address having co-chairs of the BOT, and in the section of the Bylaws that deals with the Officers and Employees, it talks about the Chair, the Vice Chair, etc. in the singular. About the only explanation I can fashion is that the term limits paragraph is dealing with trustees and the term rules depending on when they started on the BOT. As such, the entire paragraph is in the plural (for trustees), so perhaps they didn't want to switch from the plural to the singular for the Chair exemption.

 

[scpsu76]

The resolution specifically takes effect for all on the date of its adoption. Meaning Dambly et al have 15 years from the date of the change, not the date they joined the board.

 

[blion72]

TomMc will have all those details.

I'd go with the much shorter answer though......and that answer is that it will take as long as it takes to get Board reform passed through the Pennsylvania Legislature. Until that time, so long as we are shackled to the current B&I and Agric and Personal Proxy Appointee system, the only thing that changes are the names on the nameplates on the desk.

Broadhurst....Dandrea?? What's the difference

The "faces" from 2011 will all be gone relatively soon......heck, most of them are gone NOW. Do you see any difference with how the Board operates?? Aside from the OG becoming even MORE obstinate?
The only change over the last three years is that there are now 9 folks in the Elected seats that actually took those seats in elections featuring engaged constituents.

Call/write/visit your Reps and Senators......even if they are not "your" Reps and Senators - call/write/visit them anyway.

etc

I had no idea that some of these terms were 15 years. it does seem like new people (even if somewhat from same group) would have less allegiance to actions from 2011-12....maybe I am wrong - you guys who live in the area no better. I can really appreciate the reform question when it gets posted here. I have tended to not appreciate how big a deal that is. Thanks for great feedback.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

The resolution specifically takes effect for all on the date of its adoption. Meaning Dambly et al have 15 years from the date of the change, not the date they joined the board.

I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. There have been multiple changes to the term limits rule in the ByLaws. With each change, they specifically addressed what rule covered trustees per the prior resolutions.

In Dambly's case, he joined October 2010. The current ByLaws read as follows:

"For Trustees with terms beginning on July 1, 2003 through and including July 1, 2012, the previously enacted 15 year term limit is effective with the date of such Trustee's initial election or appointment."

 

[OldTiredLion]

Even if we'd purge all the November, 2011 members tomorrow, it won't matter. They've hand-picked a group of sycophants who'll vote the party line come hell or high water and also stacked the board with enough deadwood members who get a vote that the alumni elected members will continue to be voted down. Our only hope is some type of government intervention or a lawsuit.