PSU Hoops gurus, who are your starting five all-time PSU mens hoops?

[john4psu]

Now, that Tony Carr has declared for the NBA, who in your opinion are Penn State’s all-time starting five?

Who is your all-time Penn State’s men’s head coach?

A list of players names to toss out at you (and feel free to add anyone you feel worthy): Tony Carr, John Amaechi, Frank Brickowski, Jesse Arnelle, Joe Crispin, Calvin Booth, Dick Mumma, Tim Frazier, Talor Battle, Jarrett Stephens, D.J. Newbill, Jamelle Cornley, Dan Earl, Pete Lisicky, Freddie Barnes, Geary Claxton, and Shep Garner.

Your all-time starting five?

 

[LionJim]

I played a lot of pickup on the North Hall courts with Carvin Jefferson, Harvey Wooten, Rob O'Conor.

 

[LemonEars]

Now, that Tony Carr has declared for the NBA, who in your opinion are Penn State’s all-time starting five?

Who is your all-time Penn State’s men’s head coach?

A list of players names to toss out at you (and feel free to add anyone you feel worthy): Tony Carr, John Amaechi, Frank Brickowski, Jesse Arnelle, Joe Crispin, Calvin Booth, Dick Mumma, Tim Frazier, Talor Battle, Jarrett Stephens, D.J. Newbill, Jamelle Cornley, Dan Earl, Pete Lisicky, Freddie Barnes, Geary Claxton, and Shep Garner.

Your all-time starting five?

Jesse Arnelle #1 and Bob Weiss #2 for sure. Add Tony Carr, Tim Frazier, and Calvin Booth to round out my top 5.

 

[Kmase21]

Now, that Tony Carr has declared for the NBA, who in your opinion are Penn State’s all-time starting five?

Who is your all-time Penn State’s men’s head coach?

A list of players names to toss out at you (and feel free to add anyone you feel worthy): Tony Carr, John Amaechi, Frank Brickowski, Jesse Arnelle, Joe Crispin, Calvin Booth, Dick Mumma, Tim Frazier, Talor Battle, Jarrett Stephens, D.J. Newbill, Jamelle Cornley, Dan Earl, Pete Lisicky, Freddie Barnes, Geary Claxton, and Shep Garner.

Your all-time starting five?

No Stanley Pringle? Isn't he the one who got caught with his pants down in the library?

 

[Raffycorn]

Jesse Arnelle #1 and Bob Weis #2 for sure. Add Tony Carr, Tim Frazier, and Calvin Booth to round out my top 5.

I like this list, though I think the best of DJ Newbill was better than the best of Frazier.

 

[psuro]

Jesse Arnelle #1 and Bob Weis #2 for sure. Add Tony Carr, Tim Frazier, and Calvin Booth to round out my top 5.

I will go with this list.

 

[bison13]

Amaechi was better than Booth, Frank Brockowski should be on there somewhere. Averaged 17 and 7 in the 90s for the Bucks.

 

[GregInPitt]

Was it Ron Brown that was the big scorer and led the PSU team that ended a long pitt winning streak?

 

[WDLion]

Now, that Tony Carr has declared for the NBA, who in your opinion are Penn State’s all-time starting five?

Who is your all-time Penn State’s men’s head coach?

A list of players names to toss out at you (and feel free to add anyone you feel worthy): Tony Carr, John Amaechi, Frank Brickowski, Jesse Arnelle, Joe Crispin, Calvin Booth, Dick Mumma, Tim Frazier, Talor Battle, Jarrett Stephens, D.J. Newbill, Jamelle Cornley, Dan Earl, Pete Lisicky, Freddie Barnes, Geary Claxton, and Shep Garner.

Your all-time starting five?

No Carver Clinton?

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Jesse Arnelle #1 and Bob Weis #2 for sure. Add Tony Carr, Tim Frazier, and Calvin Booth to round out my top 5.

For crying out loud, get his fudging name right!

It’s Bobby WEISS!

 

[Bessmoney]

Gotta include Ron Brown. Very talented.

 

[LundyPSU]

No Q Tip or Gaudio???

 

[LemonEars]

For crying out loud, get his fudging name right!

It’s Bobby WEISS!

Yep. You are right. I fixed my post.

 

[bdgan]

Now, that Tony Carr has declared for the NBA, who in your opinion are Penn State’s all-time starting five?

Who is your all-time Penn State’s men’s head coach?

A list of players names to toss out at you (and feel free to add anyone you feel worthy): Tony Carr, John Amaechi, Frank Brickowski, Jesse Arnelle, Joe Crispin, Calvin Booth, Dick Mumma, Tim Frazier, Talor Battle, Jarrett Stephens, D.J. Newbill, Jamelle Cornley, Dan Earl, Pete Lisicky, Freddie Barnes, Geary Claxton, and Shep Garner.

Your all-time starting five?

That's really tough, especially at PG. Who would be your starting PG? How could you take Carr over Frazier, Battle, Newbill, or Crispin? Two of them would have to move to a SG and the second team along with Earl & Lisicky. Crispin got us tk the sweet 16 but he had a better supporting cast than Battle. Talor won an NIT title and also got an NCAA bid so he's my pick.

I'd probably take Amaechi over Booth because of his offense. Watkins has a chance to pass both of them. Time will tell.

Still need a 3 and a 4. I'll take Stevens as my PF. My SF might be Ivory.

P.S. Arnelle gets a plaque all his own. 26 pts, 15 rebounds, and a 3rd place finish in the NCAA tournament. Perhaps he fakes Ivory's place at SF.

 

[HunterPSU96]

How are so many people forgetting Talor Battle in their top 5?

 

[bdgan]

Jesse Arnelle #1 and Bob Weiss #2 for sure. Add Tony Carr, Tim Frazier, and Calvin Booth to round out my top 5.

You've got 3 PGs.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Since Amaechi apparently wants to annul his PSU past, I won't include him in my picks. My picks only go back to early 90's (I didn't watch PSU hoops prior).

C- Booth
PF- Watkins
SF- Cornley
G- Earl
G- Frazier

 

[bdgan]

Since Amaechi apparently wants to annul his PSU past, I won't include him in my picks.

Good point

 

[LemonEars]

You've got 3 PGs.

Yep. My coach is going to be Lefty Driesell. We are playing the 3-guard offense.

 

[delcoLion]

Was it Ron Brown that was the big scorer and led the PSU team that ended a long pitt winning streak?

Yes, it was.

 

[bison13]

Arnelle was 6'6 or so, he can play the 3. Battle is the PG, Lisicky the SG, Brickowski the 5, and not sure for the 4...

 

[greg13]

Jarrett Stephens was a hell of a player...he deserves to be mentioned at least

 

[bdgan]

Yep. My coach is going to be Lefty Driesell. We are playing the 3-guard offense.

You can have 3 guards but only one can have the ball in his hands at a time.

It's interesting that PSU has had such a string of great PGs but lesser talent at other positions. But this fall the PG position could be our weakest.

 

[UncleLar]

That's really tough, especially at PG. Who would be your starting PG? How could you take Carr over Frazier, Battle, Newbill, or Crispin? Two of them would have to move to a SG and the second team along with Earl & Lisicky. Crispin got us tk the sweet 16 but he had a better supporting cast than Battle. Talor won an NIT title and also got an NCAA bid so he's my pick.

You actually didn't even list maybe the best of all time - Bob Weiss. 11 years and almost 800 games in the NBA (the most of any PSU player ever) ought to be worth something. I'd put Dan Earl ahead of everyone on your list too.

 

[paulrandythomas]

Now, that Tony Carr has declared for the NBA, who in your opinion are Penn State’s all-time starting five?

Who is your all-time Penn State’s men’s head coach?

A list of players names to toss out at you (and feel free to add anyone you feel worthy): Tony Carr, John Amaechi, Frank Brickowski, Jesse Arnelle, Joe Crispin, Calvin Booth, Dick Mumma, Tim Frazier, Talor Battle, Jarrett Stephens, D.J. Newbill, Jamelle Cornley, Dan Earl, Pete Lisicky, Freddie Barnes, Geary Claxton, and Shep Garner.

Your all-time starting five?

Booth, Gaudio, Claxton, Lisicky, Battle

Honorable mentions to Crispin, TIMMMMMMY!, Cornley, and yet to be mentioned DeRon Hayes.

 

[bdgan]

You actually didn't even list maybe the best of all time - Bob Weiss. 11 years and almost 800 games in the NBA (the most of any PSU player ever) ought to be worth something. I'd put Dan Earl ahead of everyone on your list too.

You're putting Weiss ahead of Earl, Crispin, Newbill, Battle, Frazier, and Carr?

Wouldn't you agree that it's a great list of point guards but not a whole lot at other positions?
What's your outlook at PG next year?

 

[LemonEars]

You can have 3 guards but only one can have the ball in his hands at a time.

I choose Calvin Booth to insure we get the opening tip. Jesse Arnelle will take the ball to the hoop and score. After that we are playing pre-shot clock rules. My 3 point guards (Carr, Weiss, and Frazier) will freeze the ball for the rest of the game and we win 2 - 0. That's the plan.

 

[BarkleyPSU1]

Sasa Borovnjak at PF, Donovan Jack at SF, Davis Zemgulis at SG, Satch Pierce at C, Devin Foster at PG. Would be undefeated in B1G, potential national champs.

 

[Raffycorn]

How are so many people forgetting Talor Battle in their top 5?

I’d take both Carr and Newbill over Battle - as great a player as he was for those teams.

 

[paulrandythomas]

Sasa Borovnjak at PF, Donovan Jack at SF, Davis Zemgulis at SG, Satch Pierce at C, Devin Foster at PG. Would be undefeated in B1G, potential national champs.

Don’t forget Jan Jagla to jack up some 3’s hard off the glass.

 

[psuguy43]

And we can bring HoJo off the bench ;-)

 

[joeparules]

I got:

PG: Weiss
SG: Lisicky
SF: Cornley
PF: Arnelle
C: Frank the Tank

Coming off the bench:

PG: Battle
SG: Crispin (move him from PG)
SF: Claxton
PF: Stephens (can't take that pompous a-hole Amaechi)
C: Booth

 

[john4psu]

Isn't what they accomplished in the NBA irrelevant to this discussion? It's what they accomplished at Penn State that matters.

 

[doublehaul]

I'll go with Crispin, Battle, Cornley, Claxton and Booth. DJ and Frazier are hard to leave off the list. Have a great deal of respect for Shep, both in leadership and ability.

 

[NJPSU]

What about my man Eddie Fogell? Or how about Tom Hovasse? How about a little love for James Barnes!

 

[Norm Petersin]

Shows how week our talent base has been over 50 years time

 

[UncleLar]

Isn't what they accomplished in the NBA irrelevant to this discussion? It's what they accomplished at Penn State that matters.

Not sure who you are directing that comment toward but assuming that it is at least partially aimed at me since I referenced Bob Weiss' years in the NBA, I would add that I mentioned his NBA accomplishments since it was clear that the original poster was clueless as to who Bob Weiss was and those years show that the man had game..


Going on just his accomplishments at PSU, he deserves the ranking.

You're putting Weiss ahead of Earl, Crispin, Newbill, Battle, Frazier, and Carr?

Yes.

Weiss led the team to the NCAAs in an era when only 22 teams got bids. That means the team would be considered at least a six seed in today's environment. PSU lost to Princeton, led by the legendary Bill Bradley, by just two points (58-60). Princeton went on to demolish NC State by 18 (66-48), and Providence by 40 (109-69) to earn a trip to the Final Four, where they eventually finished third, suggesting that we were perhaps just a bucket or two away from being a Final Four team ourselves. Weiss was also the 22nd overall pick in the 1965 draft (among Penn Staters, only Jesse Arnelle went higher at 13). In the three years that Weiss played, the team went 51-16, which I'm willing to bet is the best career average for any Penn State player who played more than one season.

His credentials are better than the guys that you listed.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Not sure who you are directing that comment toward but assuming that it is at least partially aimed at me since I referenced Bob Weiss' years in the NBA, I would add that I mentioned his NBA accomplishments since it was clear that the original poster was clueless as to who Bob Weiss was and those years show that the man had game..


Going on just his accomplishments at PSU, he deserves the ranking.



Yes.

Weiss led the team to the NCAAs in an era when only 22 teams got bids. That means the team would be considered at least a six seed in today's environment. PSU lost to Princeton, led by the legendary Bill Bradley, by just two points (58-60). Princeton went on to demolish NC State by 18 (66-48), and Providence by 40 (109-69) to earn a trip to the Final Four, where they eventually finished third, suggesting that we were perhaps just a bucket or two away from being a Final Four team ourselves. Weiss was also the 22nd overall pick in the 1965 draft (among Penn Staters, only Jesse Arnelle went higher at 13). In the three years that Weiss played, the team went 51-16, which I'm willing to bet is the best career average for any Penn State player who played more than one season.

His credentials are better than the guys that you listed.

AND

He did it all as a lefty! We kidded years ago that he had no right hand/arm, that he was a suspect in The Fugitive.

He was a VERY good player that probably got more out of his natural ability than 98% of his peers.

Plus always seemed like a nice guy that was very well respected.

 

[auxgym]

Now, that Tony Carr has declared for the NBA, who in your opinion are Penn State’s all-time starting five?

Who is your all-time Penn State’s men’s head coach?

A list of players names to toss out at you (and feel free to add anyone you feel worthy): Tony Carr, John Amaechi, Frank Brickowski, Jesse Arnelle, Joe Crispin, Calvin Booth, Dick Mumma, Tim Frazier, Talor Battle, Jarrett Stephens, D.J. Newbill, Jamelle Cornley, Dan Earl, Pete Lisicky, Freddie Barnes, Geary Claxton, and Shep Garner.

Your all-time starting five?

Joe Crispin
Titus Ivory
Pete Lisicky
Jarrett Stephens
Frank Brickowski

Good Luck beating them with whoever you want to trot out there. Stephens was a beast down low his senior year. Every one in the gym knew he was getting the ball down low and he was tough to stop. Want to double him? Three great shooters around him.

 

[john4psu]

Not sure who you are directing that comment toward but assuming that it is at least partially aimed at me since I referenced Bob Weiss' years in the NBA, I would add that I mentioned his NBA accomplishments since it was clear that the original poster was clueless as to who Bob Weiss was and those years show that the man had game..


Going on just his accomplishments at PSU, he deserves the ranking.



Yes.

Weiss led the team to the NCAAs in an era when only 22 teams got bids. That means the team would be considered at least a six seed in today's environment. PSU lost to Princeton, led by the legendary Bill Bradley, by just two points (58-60). Princeton went on to demolish NC State by 18 (66-48), and Providence by 40 (109-69) to earn a trip to the Final Four, where they eventually finished third, suggesting that we were perhaps just a bucket or two away from being a Final Four team ourselves. Weiss was also the 22nd overall pick in the 1965 draft (among Penn Staters, only Jesse Arnelle went higher at 13). In the three years that Weiss played, the team went 51-16, which I'm willing to bet is the best career average for any Penn State player who played more than one season.

His credentials are better than the guys that you listed.

I've heard the name a few times but was unaware of his accomplishments college or pro, a bit before my time.