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PSU Scrambles Lineup?

I prefer over easy.

165 Joseph
174 Hall
184 Shak
197 Bo
285 V-Raptor/Nevills
 
I just heard the Hall/Cenzo swap rumor yesterday. Interesting it came up here too.
 
Hall stated that 74kg (163) was a tough pull for him. I wouldn't think he would be able to make 165 for an entire season.
 
Chief posted yesterday on HR he has heard the Hall Cenzo swap is a possibility.

Never know.
 
This is a rumor that started on HR. I don't know why anyone would take this seriously. No sources were cited, nothing.

And you have the losers on HR already spinning this as PSU guys running away from Iowa guys as the SOLE reason this is going to happen. Those people are delusional and this isn't going to happen. This won't stop the sickness that is HR from continuing to pontificate that Mark Hall and VJ are running away from their guys even when they stay at the same weight.

BTW - I heard that Spencer Lee is actually thinking about coming back to PA to finish his career.
 
For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the person I got the 165/174 swap from is NOT a message board reader. Doesn't mean it's correct, but his source was local. Also--recall Cenzo missing the Lehigh match. I don't think we ever heard a story as to why, but it could be weight related, right? It's not out of the question that the cut is pretty tough for him, and this is an attempt at getting everyone on the mat. I'm definitely trusting in what the coaches figure out either way.
 
This is a rumor that started on HR. I don't know why anyone would take this seriously. No sources were cited, nothing.
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Chief posted it and he is one of the most credible posters.

It’s certainly possible and we’ll see soon enough.

As far as the others talking about running away, that’s just stupid talk coming from jealousy.
 
Chief posted it and he is one of the most credible posters.

It’s certainly possible and we’ll see soon enough.

As far as the others talking about running away, that’s just stupid talk coming from jealousy.

Hopefully TnT works with Cael to get a match scheduled @ Penn State this year. Unfortunately, I think they dont like their chances of winning so the odds are 83% against it happening.
#whosrunning
 
Eggum came out with Minnesota's weight changes a week after the 17-18 season. This is exhausting
 
Hopefully TnT works with Cael to get a match scheduled @ Penn State this year. Unfortunately, I think they dont like their chances of winning so the odds are 83% against it happening.
#whosrunning
It would be nice. PSU and Iowa need to wrestle annually. Of course both sides need to be willing to take their appropriate turn traveling.
 
This is a rumor that started on HR. I don't know why anyone would take this seriously. No sources were cited, nothing.

And you have the losers on HR already spinning this as PSU guys running away from Iowa guys as the SOLE reason this is going to happen. Those people are delusional and this isn't going to happen. This won't stop the sickness that is HR from continuing to pontificate that Mark Hall and VJ are running away from their guys even when they stay at the same weight.

BTW - I heard that Spencer Lee is actually thinking about coming back to PA to finish his career.

It’s from a pretty credible source but by all means not written in stone...but it makes sense after seeing how huge Cenzo was in person... rumor is over 200 walking around. So take it or leave it sport.

Btw, pretty sure most of the “running away” comments were tongue and cheek...there were a bunch of posts talking about Cenzo and Hall’s weight and how if it happens, it’s not good for Iowa...which I agree with. So deifinitely no “sole” reason.
 
It’s from a pretty credible source but by all means not written in stone...but it makes sense after seeing how huge Cenzo was in person... rumor is over 200 walking around. So take it or leave it sport.

Btw, pretty sure most of the “running away” comments were tongue and cheek...there were a bunch of posts talking about Cenzo and Hall’s weight and how if it happens, it’s not good for Iowa...which I agree with. So deifinitely no “sole” reason.

Over 200! Yikes! That seems like a huge cut to me, but I really don’t know what is a normal cut.
 
For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the person I got the 165/174 swap from is NOT a message board reader. Doesn't mean it's correct, but his source was local. Also--recall Cenzo missing the Lehigh match. I don't think we ever heard a story as to why, but it could be weight related, right? It's not out of the question that the cut is pretty tough for him, and this is an attempt at getting everyone on the mat. I'm definitely trusting in what the coaches figure out either way.

Cenzo tweaked his shoulder during the match against Binghamton. I was sitting very close to the mat and you could see it happen and also that he was was annoyed about it (in addition to the fact that his opponent wasn't wrestling). The injury was the reason for not wrestling against Lehigh.

I played football at 195 my senior year of high school and wrestled 167, so the proposed cut for Cenzo doesn't seem terrible if it's done correctly. I started losing weight during football to get to 185 by season's end.
 
Over 200! Yikes! That seems like a huge cut to me, but I really don’t know what is a normal cut.
Yes, that's a very big cut. There really isn't a normal cut. I'm sure guys would like it to be 10-15 lbs, but many make the cut for different reasons.
Some guys still feel there is an advantage in making a large cut, some just can't crack the lineup otherwise.

Edit: On IG he doesn't appear to be around 200 to me.
 
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If we're talking matchups w/ Iowa in this speculative scenario, we know Hall comfortably tech'd Bull in freestyle at least year's Jr WTT. I have a hard time picturing Cenzo vs. Kemerer, but I bet it'd be a fun matchup. As already discussed, Shak owned Wilke last year, and other than winning team Championships, Bo does another thing quite well: pin Hawks. Though Warner is obviously no slouch.
 
It’s from a pretty credible source but by all means not written in stone...but it makes sense after seeing how huge Cenzo was in person... rumor is over 200 walking around. So take it or leave it sport.

Btw, pretty sure most of the “running away” comments were tongue and cheek...there were a bunch of posts talking about Cenzo and Hall’s weight and how if it happens, it’s not good for Iowa...which I agree with. So deifinitely no “sole” reason.

I dont doubt you heard something but 200 walking around? That's hard to believe unless Cenzo has been binging on Rasheed's rotisserie chicken stash.

Where'd it all go???
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Joseph is not very tall, find it hard to believe his walk around weight is 200 pounds. If it is, he must not be competing and is eating everything that does not move. Look how long it took David Taylor to get up to 200 pounds and he is 6 foot 1 in height, probably 6 inches taller than Joseph.
 
HR set the hook and we ran with it. No way in hell VJ is walking around at 200 either - simply rediculous. What does your relaible source also work summers part time at a carnival and guess people's weight?

VJ may have some trouble with the cut many rumors last year...I grant that but,...

1) walking around at 200lbs is both undisciplined and irresponsable, none of Cael's kids are either.
2) VJ is thick at 165, can you imagine what he would look like with an additional 35? He would have a new nickname the human toad
3) I suspect he's more like 185 with a 20 lb cut, which is no walk in the park, but with work manageable.

Would a VJ and Marky swap be totally out of the question? No, but if they did, the Hawkeyes still loose 7+ team points in those two matches.
 
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And you have the losers on HR already spinning this as PSU guys running away from Iowa guys as the SOLE reason this is going to happen. Those people are delusional and this isn't going to happen. This won't stop the sickness that is HR from continuing to pontificate that Mark Hall and VJ are running away from their guys even when they stay at the same weight.
Easy, bro. It was just one or two guys with the "running" remarks, and from what I saw they were half-joking. Besides, you should embrace the delusion on HR, not get spun up about it.

It’s from a pretty credible source but by all means not written in stone...but it makes sense after seeing how huge Cenzo was in person... rumor is over 200 walking around. So take it or leave it sport.
Hard to believe Cenzo walks around at 200 lb, unless he goes full couch potato mode and eats pizza all day. Seems like he would resemble a fire hydrant at that weight.
 
It’s from a pretty credible source but by all means not written in stone...but it makes sense after seeing how huge Cenzo was in person... rumor is over 200 walking around. So take it or leave it sport.

Btw, pretty sure most of the “running away” comments were tongue and cheek...there were a bunch of posts talking about Cenzo and Hall’s weight and how if it happens, it’s not good for Iowa...which I agree with. So deifinitely no “sole” reason.

You can put me in the leave it category. That's my default category for un-cited internet message board rumors.
 
Easy, bro. It was just one or two guys with the "running" remarks, and from what I saw they were half-joking. Besides, you should embrace the delusion on HR, not get spun up about it.

They weren't. HR Is a cesspool. They are delusional enough to actually believe:

1. This rumor
2. That these guys are actually running from Iowa guys.
 
You can put me in the leave it category. That's my default category for un-cited internet message board rumors.

Chief has always typically been a pretty credible and good poster, he used to post on here more often than he does now. Probably because of posts like these, he figures, why bother.

The animosity between HR and BWI is old. Let's talk about wrestling.
 
Nobody at 165 gives him as good of a challenge as IMAR. Move on to a bigger challenge Zahid.
 
This is a rumor that started on HR. I don't know why anyone would take this seriously. No sources were cited, nothing.

And you have the losers on HR already spinning this as PSU guys running away from Iowa guys as the SOLE reason this is going to happen. Those people are delusional and this isn't going to happen. This won't stop the sickness that is HR from continuing to pontificate that Mark Hall and VJ are running away from their guys even when they stay at the same weight.

BTW - I heard that Spencer Lee is actually thinking about coming back to PA to finish his career.
I heard Nolf to 174, Kemerer to basketball.
 
We’ve seen all the movement we’re going to get, imo. NoBickal and Shak swap, Cenzo will be at 65 and BabyMarkyWreckHall®️ At 74. You can mark down our lineup from 157 through 197 in ink.
200 walking around.... Pff. Cray Cray.
 
For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the person I got the 165/174 swap from is NOT a message board reader. Doesn't mean it's correct, but his source was local. Also--recall Cenzo missing the Lehigh match. I don't think we ever heard a story as to why, but it could be weight related, right? It's not out of the question that the cut is pretty tough for him, and this is an attempt at getting everyone on the mat. I'm definitely trusting in what the coaches figure out either way.
Cenzo was held out of the Keystone Classic and the Lehigh match. I clearly recall Cenzo running off the mat after the Binghamton match very agitated. There was speculation that he got dinged up a bit. Don't know if that was ever confirmed, but I'd rate or more likely than a weight issue.
 
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