It's been discussed here but the kid has blazing speed.
PSU walkon Ethan Black ran a 4.3 at PSU camp this weekend
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Hand-timed? I take them with a grain of salt. If laser-timed, you can take it to the bank.
He is very damn fast though. I hope he can get up to 185-190 lbs without losing his speed.
He is very damn fast though. I hope he can get up to 185-190 lbs without losing his speed.
Kid is a blazer, won 100 and 200 at states. Unfortunately he plays in a conference with very little competition..Hopefully his speed can translate to the football field. He has good size and Hopefully can put on good weight and not lose speed.
I saw him play in person. That kid is the fastest player I've ever seen. Not kidding and it wouldn't surprise me if he can go 4.29 or lower.
He literally scored almost every time he touched the ball...game finished 68-58.
What is the plus or minus in the difference between hand timed and laser timed?
The big difference is accuracy. Clicking the hand timer too early is pretty common, especially in camps
His track times show elite speed, so I expect his 40 time will be outstanding, too; no reason to think he had a fluke 40-time though, yes, hand-timed and auto-timed can be different.
A Future Penn State Receiver Is Pennsylvania's Fastest Sprinter
Ethan Black of Conemaugh Township High wins three gold medals and sets a state record at the PIAA Track & Field Championships.Penn State is getting Pennsylvania's fastest sprinter as a preferred run-on player in its 2023 football recruiting class. Ethan Black, a senior at Conemaugh Township High, won three sprint gold medals and set a meet record at the 2023 PIAA Track & Field Championships. Black was named the outstanding athlete among Class 2A boys at the two-day event at Shippensburg University.
Black, a wide receiver, defended his Class 2A titles in the 100- and 200-meter dashes and ran a superb final leg to lift Conemaugh Township to gold in the 400 relay. Black's winning time of 10.55 seconds in Saturday's 100 final was the fastest in either Class 2A or 3A. On Friday, Black ran a wind-aided qualifying time of 10.39, surpassing former Penn State running back Journey Brown's state-record time of 10.43 in the 2017 Class 3A championship race.
In the 400 relay, Black took the baton in third place but sprinted past the competition to clinch Conemaugh Township's gold. To punctuate his day, Black won the 200 dash in a state-record time of 21.07. His 200 time also was the fastest in either classification. According to PennTrackXC, Black set a Pennsylvania record in the 100 this season, finishing in 10.22 at an April meet.
I understand that aspect. What I am asking is there a number that the hand held is different by. For example, is hand held thought to be .5 off or 1.3 off?
5-10, 160 according to a couple of other recruiting outlets.
Depending upon his hands, these kinds of WRs' take the top off the defense. In other words, they make the CB s and Ss cover the deep threat leaving the "under" more room for slants, digs and the rest of the passing offense to operate. Without looking, most of our WRs have been big body guys with good, but not great, speed.
Kind of irrelevant when the kid is winning laser timed races on the track.
It can be off in any amount and in any direction.
PS. Some of the PSU players actually got faster at the combine when it was laser timed.
Lazier, stopwatch or Sundial that’s fast. If he can actually catch passes or tackle people he’s going to play.
That's all well and good. However, I'm only interested in whether he can make contributions while actually playing Big 10 caliber football. Hopefully, he can.
You can say that about anyone including the players running 4.6 laser timed.
Worked out ok for Dan Chisena and Drew Hartlaub.
If a 4* gives you nothing then you wasted a scholarship. IF a walk on gives you nothing you lost nothing. It is all upside. His first tackle on special teams will mean he had a better career than Brennan Franklin + Braylin Franklin + Casey Gaines combined.
yes and no. Lots to consider. Can the kid catch? Can he get off the LOS? What is his acceleration in pads? The way to play a super fast kid is to hit him at the LOS so he can't get into his route. And if he can't catch why cover him?
a .1-second difference in a 40 yard dash is a little less than two feet. So in a dead sprint, a kid that runs a 4.4 will be 1.5 feet behind a kid running at 4.3. We know that players rarely run 40 yards in a straight line without being harrassed. You have to make a move, get by the bump, fight through the hand-checking, and get open. Speed helps but there is a lot more to consider. But it is a great start. You can't teach that kind of speed.
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Great kid. Talked with him numerous times at track meets He is fast. Fastest HS athlete I’ve seen in 45+ years of involvement with T&F. Saw him play a football game this past fall against my alma mater. Prior to this game he was lighting up the scoreboard and gaining massive yardage as a receiver and returner. During this game he was doubled team with a CB in his face and another 8-10:yards downfield. He never got off the line of scrimmage clean and was not a factor offensively. His team tried going to the other receivers but the QB was hurried all game. He did have a KO return for a TD.
i see him as a return specialist as this point.
He looks bigger than 160. That is where I would have guessed him to be during his junior year. Actually, I was amazed with his speed based on his body his junior year. He is definitely bigger, more athletic, this year.
None of this is a knock on him—just an honest evaluation. As I stated, he is a great kid. Wish him nothing but success.
i see him as a return specialist as this point.
He looks bigger than 160. That is where I would have guessed him to be during his junior year. Actually, I was amazed with his speed based on his body his junior year. He is definitely bigger, more athletic, this year.
None of this is a knock on him—just an honest evaluation. As I stated, he is a great kid. Wish him nothing but success.
Then you didn't "see" Journey Brown. Kid has great 200 speed which suggests he can sustain his speed... - people doubted a Journey Brown and all he did was demonstrate that he was an AA caliber player.... Based on the experience of JB, he could have a great career.
