Putin's troops giving up on his war

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Oh I'm just a grumpy old man who posts sometimes even though a goodly number of posters are delusional and brainwashed = low IQ. I probably graduated before some of the children around here.
Speaking of delusional and brainwashed......saying Trump encouraged Putin to invade is nuts. And you earlier said Trump did serious damage to NATO, which is opposite the truth.

And claiming Magoo unified NATO is delusional. The resistance to Putinstan was led by Poland, the Baltic states, and G Britain. The US followed along and then got the rest of NATO to join in.
 
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If they were "Trumpers" the previous Twitter administration would have shut them down long ago. Yet they chose not to. So I'm thinking "Trumpers" is the wrong comparison
The shutdown process began prior to the Musk takeover. Twitter is fast losing their ability to identify and remove fake accounts set up by foreign governments. Those foreign accounts only want to cause chaos in the US.
 

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Speaking of delusional and brainwashed......saying Trump encouraged Putin to invade is nuts. And you earlier said Trump didnserious damage to NATO, which is opposite the truth.

And claiming Magoo unified NATO is delusional. The resistance to Putinstan was led by Poland, the Baltic states, and G Britain. The US followed along and then got the rest of NATO to join in.
Trump did all he could to sow discord at NATO because he lover Putin so much. Trump wants to be a 'ruler' just like his hero Vlad. If you reject reality like Biden unifying NATO you are blind and seemingly out of touch with reality.
Putin will probably be removed soon from his position in Russia because he is costing the oligarcs too much and putting common Russians at risk if being drafted for cannon fodder in his failed invasion of Ukraine.
 

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Did Trump bow down to Putin? Yes he did. He even said he believed Putin and not US Intelligence - that makes Trump one stupid Asswipe.
Gee, wonder why Trump wouldn’t believe US intel agencies......the same ones that plantEd a fake Russiagate scandal and played it for three years? The ones that covered up for his opponent, Hildebeast? The ones that covered up for Magoo and lied about the Hunter laptop? The ones that set up a decorated four star general? The ones that collaborated with big tech to hide stories they didn’t like and push stories that damaged Trump?

That intel apparatus?
 

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The shutdown process began prior to the Musk takeover. Twitter is fast losing their ability to identify and remove fake accounts set up by foreign governments. Those foreign accounts only want to cause chaos in the US.

Foreign governments were not looting and burning our cities in 2020. They are not committing murders in our cities. They are not running off our border agents or printing dollars to cover reckless domestic spending. They are not shutting down our pipeline projects, nor are they regulating our permits.

I think it is the Democratic Party that is causing chaos in America.
 

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Vlad told me that he invaded because Potato and Obama were weak and he went for it. He said that he would never have invaded if Trump were President.
Can you provide any proof for your fantasy? When and where did Vlad the failure tell you of his dreams.
You sound totally delusional and happy to be so.
 
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Gee, wonder why [COLOR=%s]Trump wouldn’t believe US intel agencie[/COLOR]s......the same ones that None of what you are claiming is true. You are just too out of touch with reality to realize how badly you've been lied to. The ones that covered up for Magoo and lied about the Hunter laptop? The ones that set up a decorated four star general? The ones that collaborated with big tech to hide stories they didn’t like and push stories that damaged Trump?

That intel apparatus?
Trump was too stupid to grasp the realities of the world - he is a dumb ass that was taken by the powers of dictators. The example you state have all been investigated and found to be lies. You really need to get help...
 
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Can you provide any proof for your fantasy? When and where did Vlad the failure tell you of his dreams.
You sound totally delusional and happy to be so.
It’s intuitively obvious 2Lying, no do different than the assertion from you and other leftists wackos that the Pelosi hammer attack was committed by a Trump supporter.
 
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Back to the thread instead of obsfucation.

There is serious moral problems with Putinstan. More than 39 have refused to fight or defected. That was one single incident.

Appears there is a lot of fighting around Kershon with both sides taking major casualties. And both gaining territory and both losing some. Ukraine is preparing to attack and retake Kershon but is being very cautious. They suspect a trap by Russia and are also trying to limit losses as much as possible as they are very outnumbered and outgunned in that area.

The drones sent by Iaave Ben very effective and reports are that they will be sending more advanced ones soon. I also saw a news clip,last week about a new microwave-based anti air defense system that fries the electronics of anything within a mile. Had videos of multiple drones just falling out of sky as soon the system was activated. Perhaps it will also,work against cruise missiles too. Could be a game changer.
 

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It’s intuitively obvious 2Lying, no do different than the assertion from you and other leftists wackos that the Pelosi hammer attack was committed by a Trump supporter.
Total baseless bullshit. You're way past delusional and totally unbelievable. When you start making cogent comments I'll consider replying.
 
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Back to the thread instead of obsfucation.

There is serious moral problems with Putinstan. More than 39 have refused to fight or defected. That was one single incident.

Appears there is a lot of fighting around Kershon with both sides taking major casualties. And both gaining territory and both losing some. Ukraine is preparing to attack and retake Kershon but is being very cautious. They suspect a trap by Russia and are also trying to limit losses as much as possible as they are very outnumbered and outgunned in that area.

The drones sent by Iaave Ben very effective and reports are that they will be sending more advanced ones soon. I also saw a news clip,last week about a new microwave-based anti air defense system that fries the electronics of anything within a mile. Had videos of multiple drones just falling out of sky as soon the system was activated. Perhaps it will also,work against cruise missiles too. Could be a game changer.
Putin has sent 'special forces' to the Kherson region to stop, if they can, deserters from the Russian army. They have orders to shoot to kill any soldier looking to retreat or surrender. Sure signs of Putin winning.
 
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Total baseless bullshit. You're way past delusional and totally unbelievable. When you start making cogent comments I'll consider replying.
Vlad has Potato just where he wants him. Potato is going to drag the US into a quagmire.
 
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Speaking of delusional and brainwashed......saying Trump encouraged Putin to invade is nuts. And you earlier said Trump did serious damage to NATO, which is opposite the truth.

And claiming Magoo unified NATO is delusional. The resistance to Putinstan was led by Poland, the Baltic states, and G Britain. The US followed along and then got the rest of NATO to join in.
I don't believe anyone makes up more sh&t than 2lying. Then he accuses others. Priceless.
 

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Putin has sent 'special forces' to the Kherson region to stop, if they can, deserters from the Russian army. They have orders to shoot to kill any soldier looking to retreat or surrender. Sure signs of Putin winning.
Sure, sure. And who reported this? Who is the source? Let me guess? The Guardian, who doesn't have a single person on the front lines.
 
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Far from it. He was harder on Putin than any President prior. So hardly “bow(ing) down” to him.

Disinformation to characterize it otherwise.
There is something seriously wrong with 2lying. If he truly believes what he posts then he has critical mental deficiencies. He could be just a Catch wanna be and be purposely trolling people. Or so pissed about the coming rd tsunami that he is just posting💩 In a fit of anger.

Anyone that says Trump was weak on Putin is just beyond any sense of reason. We have all postedthe numerous things that Trump did to reign In Putinstan numerous times. Since he insists on being a total fool, it is time to put him on ignore.
 

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Sure, sure. And who reported this? Who is the source? Let me guess? The Guardian, who doesn't have a single person on the front lines.
Can you present facts to rebut? That would include a source. Even the Russian TV is reporting massive losses and defections. Putin will go down as a very dumb military guy who over played his hand. The Russian military is being torn to shreds daily.
 

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There is something seriously wrong with 2lying. If he truly believes what he posts then he has critical mental deficiencies. He could be just a Catch wanna be and be purposely trolling people. Or so pissed about the coming rd tsunami that he is just posting💩 In a fit of anger.

Anyone that says Trump was weak on Putin is just beyond any sense of reason. We have all postedthe numerous things that Trump did to reign In Putinstan numerous times. Since he insists on being a total fool, it is time to put him on ignore.
I'm fact based and more right than wrong. You post how I'm delusional but present no facts to support your stupidity.
 
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Can you present facts to rebut? That would include a source. Even the Russian TV is reporting massive losses and defections. Putin will go down as a very dumb military guy who over played his hand. The Russian military is being torn to shreds daily.
I don't have to. You have to prove what you stated. Just how disingenuous can you be for your stupid party. So, according to you, folks can say anything, and someone else has to prove them wrong? Then why do we footnote historical and scientific books and articles? Jesus, have you become pathetic.
 

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I'm fact based and more right than wrong. You post how I'm delusional but present no facts to support your stupidity.
There's nothing remotely factual about you or your posts. They're all made up bullsh&t.
 

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Can you present facts to rebut? That would include a source. Even the Russian TV is reporting massive losses and defections. Putin will go down as a very dumb military guy who over played his hand. The Russian military is being torn to shreds daily.
None of this is what you claimed.
 

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Reuters is reporting the Russkies have abandoned Kherson. This is consistent with the reporting coming from the Times, Telegraph, DW, France24 and almost all of the top retired US military. They have been saying it for weeks now.


NOVEMBER 09, 2022 / 12:32 PM

Russia abandons Ukrainian city of Kherson in major retreat

 

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Reuters is reporting the Russkies have abandoned Kherson. This is consistent with the reporting coming from the Times, Telegraph, DW, France24 and almost all of the top retired US military. They have been saying it for weeks now.


NOVEMBER 09, 2022 / 12:32 PM

Russia abandons Ukrainian city of Kherson in major retreat

This must be the 'smell of victory' to Putin. His troops shitting their pants and turning tail.
 

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This must be the 'smell of victory' to Putin. His troops shitting their pants and turning tail.
It could be a trap. The former head of MI6 is cautious.

The Ukrainians are savvy. They know who they are up against. I hope we get them the ATACMS and the F-16’s. Our aid so far has been a FRACTION of what we spent in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
 
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Ukraine will not stop until they regain all their territory, even Crimea.
 

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Ukrainian troops retake Kherson. Huge losses for Russia.
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Jubilation in Kherson as Ukrainian troops enter key city after Russia retreats in humiliating blow for Putin​


MYKOLAIV, Ukraine — Ukrainian forces swept into the key southern city of Kherson on Friday after Russia said its military had completed a rapid retreat from the area — a humiliating setback for President Vladimir Putin and a major development in the war.

As jubilant civilians flocked to the city's central square to greet advancing soldiers, Kyiv said its forces were taking control and warned any remaining occupying troops to surrender.

The Russian pullout across the Dnieper River that divides the region marks one of the biggest blows yet for Putin, abandoning perhaps the greatest prize of the war he launched nearly nine months ago and severely weakening his grip over the country's south.

It follows a grinding Ukrainian counteroffensive that pushed Putin's troops back and pounded their supply lines, sparking a race by Russia to evacuate more than 100,000 residents in the area — and then its own soldiers.
 

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Ukrainian troops retake Kherson. Huge losses for Russia.
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Jubilation in Kherson as Ukrainian troops enter key city after Russia retreats in humiliating blow for Putin​


MYKOLAIV, Ukraine — Ukrainian forces swept into the key southern city of Kherson on Friday after Russia said its military had completed a rapid retreat from the area — a humiliating setback for President Vladimir Putin and a major development in the war.

As jubilant civilians flocked to the city's central square to greet advancing soldiers, Kyiv said its forces were taking control and warned any remaining occupying troops to surrender.

The Russian pullout across the Dnieper River that divides the region marks one of the biggest blows yet for Putin, abandoning perhaps the greatest prize of the war he launched nearly nine months ago and severely weakening his grip over the country's south.

It follows a grinding Ukrainian counteroffensive that pushed Putin's troops back and pounded their supply lines, sparking a race by Russia to evacuate more than 100,000 residents in the area — and then its own soldiers.
The fact they retreated without a major battle shows how weak their position and military is. Could have made Ukraine fight for it and hammered its troops with AirPower the whole battle. That would have seriously damaged Ukraine’s future war efforts. Perhaps their air power is also weak.

Now much of Crimea will be in striking range of various Ukraine weapons systems. They will have to pull back numerous bases and supply depots. Rail and air will be limited. Navy assists at risk. Vestapol becomes a target. Not good for any Russian troops in Ukraine. However, it will be extremely difficult for Ukraine to cross the river. This could be a major stalemate that likely lasts through the winter. After winter, all bets are Off.

Here’s some good news for @Jerry and others. Two weeks ago Putin said that using nukes was not under consideration. Seems he came to that decision after Xi of China publicly stated that using nukes would be very bad for Russia. It also came after US Pentagon people had some serious discussions with their Kremlin counterparts. The message got through some how.

Of course, with Putin, you just never know........
 
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Pure genius on Putin's part. As they withdraw from occupied areas of Ukraine there is less and less to mop up.
A retreat is a retreat - Russians have been beaten and are retreating. Word play doesn't cover their failures.
 

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The fact they retreated without a major battle shows how weak their position and military is. Could have made Ukraine fight for it and hammered its troops with AirPower the whole battle. That would have seriously damaged Ukraine’s future war efforts. Perhaps their air power is also weak.

Now much of Crimea will be in striking range of various Ukraine weapons systems. They will have to pull back numerous bases and supply depots. Rail and air will be limited. Navy assists at risk. Vestapol becomes a target. Not good for any Russian troops in Ukraine. However, it will be extremely difficult for Ukraine to cross the river. This could be a major stalemate that likely lasts through the winter. After winter, all bets are Off.

Here’s some good news for @Jerry and otherso. Two weeks ago Putin said that using nukes was not under consideration. Seems he came to that decision after Xi of China publicly stated that using nukes would be very bad for Russia. It also came after US Pentagon people had some serious discussions with their Kremlin counterparts. The message got through some how.

Of course, with Putin, you just never know........
Try again with facts not fantasy. Your alternate reality sucks and doesn't hold water.
The Russians lost thousands of troops and equipment - that's why they are retreating - heavy losses. They sent some od their new conscripts to die there with little to no ammunition, training, or supplies. The great Russian Army is a joke.
 

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A retreat is a retreat - Russians have been beaten and are retreating. Word play doesn't cover their failures.

Or it would not be false to say Russia is making progress mopping up.

Kinda like saying their Black Sea fleet has an increase in vessels operating under water.
 
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Try again with facts not fantasy. Your alternate reality sucks and doesn't hold water.
The Russians lost thousands of troops and equipment - that's why they are retreating - heavy losses. They sent some od their new conscripts to die there with little to no ammunition, training, or supplies. The great Russian Army is a joke.
man, you need serious help. I said they retreated without a fight.....which shows how weak they are.

But not surprising that you have comprehension issues from all the insane babble you often post.
 

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man, you need serious help. I said they retreated without a fight.....which shows how weak they are.

But not surprising that you have comprehension issues from all the insane babble you often post.
You have words - no facts. Just a lot of MAGAnutso crap.
 

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Ok, now I know you are a bot. One that needs rebooted because of some computer/software glitch.
Speaking of bots, Reddit has some great ones. Metric bot automatically replies to posts using Imperial measures with metric, and I just saw a “useless fact” bot that converted a measurement to its equivalent in Samsung Washers stacked on each other
 
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There's nothing remotely factual about you or your posts. They're all made up bullsh&t.
How about you post your side with sources and supporting facts. You sound like a guy that worships Putin.