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Question for Mr. McAndrew (about Colonial Williamsburg)

Jovialgent

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Tom,

My wife and I are considering a trip this summer to Colonial Williamsburg. In your opinion, how close is it to the way it actually was in the 18th century? I'm not sure I want to go if it's not authentic or something close to that. Also, if I go, how many days does it take to get a real feel for the place?
Thank you.
 
Tom,

My wife and I are considering a trip this summer to Colonial Williamsburg. In your opinion, how close is it to the way it actually was in the 18th century? I'm not sure I want to go if it's not authentic or something close to that. Also, if I go, how many days does it take to get a real feel for the place?
Thank you.

Well, they don't have the level of dysentery you likely would have seen back then. But in all seriousness, don't be too snooty about it. As a privately run organization, they do a pretty good job paying attention to small details given the fact that at the end of the day, it is a tourism facility that is trying attract both adults and kids to history. For example, when you ask George Wythe about Thomas Jefferson, he will in fact be befuddled, since, while Jefferson was in fact his student, he would have been unremarkable given that he was also an adolescent boy. The political history is obviously cool, but for me what is really need is seeing the trades practiced.

Aside from that, the town is delightful, and you can always branch out to the beach, the CW campaigns, or see the big ships in Norfolk.
 
Well, they don't have the level of dysentery you likely would have seen back then. But in all seriousness, don't be too snooty about it. As a privately run organization, they do a pretty good job paying attention to small details given the fact that at the end of the day, it is a tourism facility that is trying attract both adults and kids to history. For example, when you ask George Wythe about Thomas Jefferson, he will in fact be befuddled, since, while Jefferson was in fact his student, he would have been unremarkable given that he was also an adolescent boy. The political history is obviously cool, but for me what is really need is seeing the trades practiced.

Aside from that, the town is delightful, and you can always branch out to the beach, the CW campaigns, or see the big ships in Norfolk.
Thanks for the input.
 
I've been a few times. I enjoyed the first visit because it was different from other tourist destinations, but in subsequent visits the commercialization came through more and more. Also, the food went way downhill over time.
 
Used to be a good, long weekend. Cheap the whole way around but when I checked lately it is considerably more expensive. Lots to see in the area and you can drive the Chesapeake tunnel-bridge if you have the time and inclination. I felt they did a good job with the restoration and our kids got a good deal of benefit from it.
 
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Plan on spending several days to see the full colonial restoration. They do a good job of presenting Williamsburg as it probably was in the late 18th century. Other than the many tourists and the lacking ambience of outdoor privies and unwashed bodies (except some tourists). You will, however, have to be careful where you walk because of the horses.

They are constantly running living history programs. Each day during the week is different. There are a number of other activities such as plays, concerts, museum tours, and lectures. You can't miss the fife and drum parades and military drills. Also what Aardvark said about the trades is absolutely true. The trades people will spend a lot of time demonstrating their skills and answering dumb questions from tourists. In several visits over the past 20 years, my family listened to speeches by Jefferson and Patrick Henry, heard George Wythe and Peyton Randolph discuss the troubling news about the fighting at Lexington and Concord, participated as part of the jury in the trial of Blackbeard's chief lieutenant, and watched Benedict Arnold (in British uniform) and Anthony Wayne ride into town during the Virginia campaigns of 1780-1781. Be sure to sample the gingerbread at the bakery and eat at one or more of the taverns in the restoration. There is a lot to do and see.
 
The walking tours in the evening are interesting. The street presentations, or the speech’s at the governors mansion are interesting. They have problems dealing with the issue of slavery.
 
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Plan on spending several days to see the full colonial restoration. They do a good job of presenting Williamsburg as it probably was in the late 18th century. Other than the many tourists and the lacking ambience of outdoor privies and unwashed bodies (except some tourists). You will, however, have to be careful where you walk because of the horses.

They are constantly running living history programs. Each day during the week is different. There are a number of other activities such as plays, concerts, museum tours, and lectures. You can't miss the fife and drum parades and military drills. Also what Aardvark said about the trades is absolutely true. The trades people will spend a lot of time demonstrating their skills and answering dumb questions from tourists. In several visits over the past 20 years, my family listened to speeches by Jefferson and Patrick Henry, heard George Wythe and Peyton Randolph discuss the troubling news about the fighting at Lexington and Concord, participated as part of the jury in the trial of Blackbeard's chief lieutenant, and watched Benedict Arnold (in British uniform) and Anthony Wayne ride into town during the Virginia campaigns of 1780-1781. Be sure to sample the gingerbread at the bakery and eat at one or more of the taverns in the restoration. There is a lot to do and see.
The living history really appeals to me. Sounds like that alone is worth the trip.
 
Tom,

My wife and I are considering a trip this summer to Colonial Williamsburg. In your opinion, how close is it to the way it actually was in the 18th century? I'm not sure I want to go if it's not authentic or something close to that. Also, if I go, how many days does it take to get a real feel for the place?
Thank you.
It is excellent , Well worth it.
 
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I haven’t been there since I was 4, but I remember two things really well: I loved it, and it was a level of heat/humidity that I don’t remember experiencing since! As a result, my next visit will occur in a season other than summer.
 
Well, they don't have the level of dysentery you likely would have seen back then. But in all seriousness, don't be too snooty about it. As a privately run organization, they do a pretty good job paying attention to small details given the fact that at the end of the day, it is a tourism facility that is trying attract both adults and kids to history. For example, when you ask George Wythe about Thomas Jefferson, he will in fact be befuddled, since, while Jefferson was in fact his student, he would have been unremarkable given that he was also an adolescent boy. The political history is obviously cool, but for me what is really need is seeing the trades practiced.

Aside from that, the town is delightful, and you can always branch out to the beach, the CW campaigns, or see the big ships in Norfolk.
What’s it like there at 12:01 AM?
 
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Thanks. I'm very encouraged by the positive responses.
Funny story about the authenticity.I was there with friends that had a son in 9th grade.He said he was talking to a cute girl dressed in period cloths giving them a tour.He ask her for her phone # and she asked in character what's a phone #? We traded points to stay at Marriott Ford Colony and it has really nice golf and a pool.It was just remolded.Also,I love the wine and cheese restaurant across from William and Mary campus.
 
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Plan on spending several days to see the full colonial restoration. They do a good job of presenting Williamsburg as it probably was in the late 18th century. Other than the many tourists and the lacking ambience of outdoor privies and unwashed bodies (except some tourists). You will, however, have to be careful where you walk because of the horses.

They are constantly running living history programs. Each day during the week is different. There are a number of other activities such as plays, concerts, museum tours, and lectures. You can't miss the fife and drum parades and military drills. Also what Aardvark said about the trades is absolutely true. The trades people will spend a lot of time demonstrating their skills and answering dumb questions from tourists. In several visits over the past 20 years, my family listened to speeches by Jefferson and Patrick Henry, heard George Wythe and Peyton Randolph discuss the troubling news about the fighting at Lexington and Concord, participated as part of the jury in the trial of Blackbeard's chief lieutenant, and watched Benedict Arnold (in British uniform) and Anthony Wayne ride into town during the Virginia campaigns of 1780-1781. Be sure to sample the gingerbread at the bakery and eat at one or more of the taverns in the restoration. There is a lot to do and see.
Peanut soup
 
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If you go in the summer, take a gun as you're going to want to shoot yourself to end the misery. The only thing possibly worse than historic WB would be the driving tour of Jamestown.

Save yourself and go to Bush Gardens one day and Water Country the next day.
 
I've been a few times. I enjoyed the first visit because it was different from other tourist destinations, but in subsequent visits the commercialization came through more and more. Also, the food went way downhill over time.

+1 I preferred Jamestown and Yorktown
 
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It is interesting that as the quality of the restaurants that are the official ones has gone downhill. The ones right outside the main part are WAY better these days.
 
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My apologies for the delay in responding to you. I started a response on Sunday, but decided to hold off on posting it, as I was exhausted from the travel and events of Blue-White weekend. I thought I saved a draft of the post, but when I returned to it on Monday or Tuesday, I discovered the draft wasn't saved. I had a lot of info in the draft post, so I was pretty ticked.

As others have indicated, avoid visiting Williamsburg in the summer. I've been there multiple times, with two of those visits being during the summer when it was 100+ degrees. There isn't a lot of shade in large swath's of Colonial Williamsburg. If you must visit, do so in a season other than the summer.

What was done at Colonial Williamsburg was somewhat popular at its time (1920s and 1930s), but is now very unpopular with historians. 500 buildings were reconstructed or restored, and many of the restorations used the footprint of a demolished building, and some of the old foundations, and labeled those efforts as original restorations. That's a very generous designation. The current approach would be to simply expose the foundations, and in some cases erect a metal outline of the original building to give a visual perspective of its size. Reconstructions are frowned upon by historians.

However, most of the people that visit Colonial Williamsburg don't seem to be too bothered that most of the buildings are reconstructions. They want the visual experience, and to see people in appropriate clothes for the period, working with tools from the era to complete the tasks the way they were done in the 1700s.

Another popular attraction are people that act as famous people from the era. You may see a George Washington re-enactor giving a speech on the back porch of an inn, or a Thomas Jefferson re-enactor, etc. I'm not a big fan of re-enactors, in part because the last time I was at Williamsburg, the Washington re-enactor made several statements that I knew to be factually incorrect. I am a stickler for accuracy, and know more about the Rev War era than most tourists, so I'm not sure if my concerns in this area are all that significant to most tourists at Williamsburg.

The Capitol, where the House of Burgesses met, is probably my favorite part of Colonial Williamsburg. It's a reconstruction that is not very accurate to what was built in 1740 (to replace the previous Capital that burnt down). Several important events took place in the real building (not the reconstruction that exists), and there is shade around the building, so I kind of forget about the architectural inaccuracies, and image Patrick Henry, George Washington, George Mason, Thomas Jefferson, and many other Virginia leaders from the Rev War era, and the actions they took/speeches they made, at that location.

If you're not all that knowledgeable about the Rev War era, and don't mind reconstructed buildings, you might have a great time at Colonial Williamsburg. That said, if you wanted to travel to that area, I'd offer these alternative suggestions of places to visit:

Yorktown Battlefield
- there is a visitors center that's interesting, and I'd advise that you go to any ranger guided events that are scheduled, and also take the audio car tour. The coordination of the French fleet sailing from the Caribbean (and then defeating in naval battle a British fleet that was racing to protect Yorktown), and Washington and Rochembeau moving their respective troops from north of NYC to trap Cornwallis at Yorktown is taken for granted today, but it was a massive operation, and succeeded better than its planners could have hoped. The Treaty of Paris would not be signed for 2 more years, but Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown effectively ended the Rev War.

American Revolution Museum at Yorktown
- it's a wonderful museum. In addition, it has a Revolution-era farm, which in some ways displays several of the things you would see at Colonial Williamsburg

Jamestown Settlement
- it can be kind of hot if you visit this in the summer. However, it was the 1st permanent English settlement in America, which makes it pretty important. There is a visitors center with a gallery and a film about the settlement and the Native Americans they encountered. (If I recall correctly, you can buy a combined ticket for the American Revolution Museum and Jamestown Settlement at a discounted price.)

Yorktown (the town)
- there are several historic buildings in Yorktown which you can tour

There's also a Virginia State Park in the area that I haven't visited in @ 20 years, and whose name I forget, but it was a hidden gem for Rev War displays and information

That's my overview on visiting Colonial Williamsburg. To your specific questions:

In your opinion, how close is it to the way it actually was in the 18th century?

that's tough to answer. Some parts of Colonial Williamsburg are buildings that existed in 1776, and were saved as part of the efforts of Colonial Williamsburg. Many other buildings are recreations. The actors and the recreated buildings give an impression of how things were in the 18th century that is somewhat accurate

Also, if I go, how many days does it take to get a real feel for the place?

If you're just visiting Colonial Williamsburg, I think 1 day would be plenty. If it's really hot, or if you have any type of mobility issues (you do walk a lot if you tour all of it), then 2 days would be needed. If you expand your visit to take in the places I recommended above, as well as Colonial Williamsburg, I think you'd need 3 - 5 days to do them justice.

I hope that helps.
 
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My apologies for the delay in responding to you. I started a response on Sunday, but decided to hold off on posting it, as I was exhausted from the travel and events of Blue-White weekend. I thought I saved a draft of the post, but when I returned to it on Monday or Tuesday, I discovered the draft wasn't saved. I had a lot of info in the draft post, so I was pretty ticked.

As others have indicated, avoid visiting Williamsburg in the summer. I've been there multiple times, with two of those visits being during the summer when it was 100+ degrees. There isn't a lot of shade in large swath's of Colonial Williamsburg. If you must visit, do so in a season other than the summer.

What was done at Colonial Williamsburg was somewhat popular at its time (1920s and 1930s), but is now very unpopular with historians. 500 buildings were reconstructed or restored, and many of the restorations used the footprint of a demolished building, and some of the old foundations, and labeled those efforts as original restorations. That's a very generous designation. The current approach would be to simply expose the foundations, and in some cases erect a metal outline of the original building to give a visual perspective of its size. Reconstructions are frowned upon by historians.

However, most of the people that visit Colonial Williamsburg don't seem to be too bothered that most of the buildings are reconstructions. They want the visual experience, and to see people in appropriate clothes for the period, working with tools from the era to complete the tasks the way they were done in the 1700s.

Another popular attraction are people that act as famous people from the era. You may see a George Washington re-enactor giving a speech on the back porch of an inn, or a Thomas Jefferson re-enactor, etc. I'm not a big fan of re-enactors, in part because the last time I was at Williamsburg, the Washington re-enactor made several statements that I knew to be factually incorrect. I am a stickler for accuracy, and know more about the Rev War era than most tourists, so I'm not sure if my concerns in this area are all that significant to most tourists at Williamsburg.

The Capitol, where the House of Burgesses met, is probably my favorite part of Colonial Williamsburg. It's a reconstruction that is not very accurate to what was built in 1740 (to replace the previous Capital that burnt down). Several important events took place in the real building (not the reconstruction that exists), and there is shade around the building, so I kind of forget about the architectural inaccuracies, and image Patrick Henry, George Washington, George Mason, Thomas Jefferson, and many other Virginia leaders from the Rev War era, and the actions they took/speeches they made, at that location.

If you're not all that knowledgeable about the Rev War era, and don't mind reconstructed buildings, you might have a great time at Colonial Williamsburg. That said, if you wanted to travel to that area, I'd offer these alternative suggestions of places to visit:

Yorktown Battlefield
- there is a visitors center that's interesting, and I'd advise that you go to any ranger guided events that are scheduled, and also take the audio car tour. The coordination of the French fleet sailing from the Caribbean (and then defeating in naval battle a British fleet that was racing to protect Yorktown), and Washington and Rochembeau moving their respective troops from north of NYC to trap Cornwallis at Yorktown is taken for granted today, but it was a massive operation, and succeeded better than its planners could have hoped. The Treaty of Paris would not be signed for 2 more years, but Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown effectively ended the Rev War.

American Revolution Museum at Yorktown
- it's a wonderful museum. In addition, it has a Revolution-era farm, which in some ways displays several of the things you would see at Colonial Williamsburg

Jamestown Settlement
- it can be kind of hot if you visit this in the summer. However, it was the 1st permanent English settlement in America, which makes it pretty important. There is a visitors center with a gallery and a film about the settlement and the Native Americans they encountered. (If I recall correctly, you can buy a combined ticket for the American Revolution Museum and Jamestown Settlement at a discounted price.)

Yorktown (the town)
- there are several historic buildings in Yorktown which you can tour

There's also a Virginia State Park in the area that I haven't visited in @ 20 years, and whose name I forget, but it was a hidden gem for Rev War displays and information

That's my overview on visiting Colonial Williamsburg. To your specific questions:



that's tough to answer. Some parts of Colonial Williamsburg are buildings that existed in 1776, and were saved as part of the efforts of Colonial Williamsburg. Many other buildings are recreations. The actors and the recreated buildings give an impression of how things were in the 18th century that is somewhat accurate



If you're just visiting Colonial Williamsburg, I think 1 day would be plenty. If it's really hot, or if you have any type of mobility issues (you do walk a lot if you tour all of it), then 2 days would be needed. If you expand your visit to take in the places I recommended above, as well as Colonial Williamsburg, I think you'd need 3 - 5 days to do them justice.

I hope that helps.
My apologies for the delay in responding to you. I started a response on Sunday, but decided to hold off on posting it, as I was exhausted from the travel and events of Blue-White weekend. I thought I saved a draft of the post, but when I returned to it on Monday or Tuesday, I discovered the draft wasn't saved. I had a lot of info in the draft post, so I was pretty ticked.

As others have indicated, avoid visiting Williamsburg in the summer. I've been there multiple times, with two of those visits being during the summer when it was 100+ degrees. There isn't a lot of shade in large swath's of Colonial Williamsburg. If you must visit, do so in a season other than the summer.

What was done at Colonial Williamsburg was somewhat popular at its time (1920s and 1930s), but is now very unpopular with historians. 500 buildings were reconstructed or restored, and many of the restorations used the footprint of a demolished building, and some of the old foundations, and labeled those efforts as original restorations. That's a very generous designation. The current approach would be to simply expose the foundations, and in some cases erect a metal outline of the original building to give a visual perspective of its size. Reconstructions are frowned upon by historians.

However, most of the people that visit Colonial Williamsburg don't seem to be too bothered that most of the buildings are reconstructions. They want the visual experience, and to see people in appropriate clothes for the period, working with tools from the era to complete the tasks the way they were done in the 1700s.

Another popular attraction are people that act as famous people from the era. You may see a George Washington re-enactor giving a speech on the back porch of an inn, or a Thomas Jefferson re-enactor, etc. I'm not a big fan of re-enactors, in part because the last time I was at Williamsburg, the Washington re-enactor made several statements that I knew to be factually incorrect. I am a stickler for accuracy, and know more about the Rev War era than most tourists, so I'm not sure if my concerns in this area are all that significant to most tourists at Williamsburg.

The Capitol, where the House of Burgesses met, is probably my favorite part of Colonial Williamsburg. It's a reconstruction that is not very accurate to what was built in 1740 (to replace the previous Capital that burnt down). Several important events took place in the real building (not the reconstruction that exists), and there is shade around the building, so I kind of forget about the architectural inaccuracies, and image Patrick Henry, George Washington, George Mason, Thomas Jefferson, and many other Virginia leaders from the Rev War era, and the actions they took/speeches they made, at that location.

If you're not all that knowledgeable about the Rev War era, and don't mind reconstructed buildings, you might have a great time at Colonial Williamsburg. That said, if you wanted to travel to that area, I'd offer these alternative suggestions of places to visit:

Yorktown Battlefield
- there is a visitors center that's interesting, and I'd advise that you go to any ranger guided events that are scheduled, and also take the audio car tour. The coordination of the French fleet sailing from the Caribbean (and then defeating in naval battle a British fleet that was racing to protect Yorktown), and Washington and Rochembeau moving their respective troops from north of NYC to trap Cornwallis at Yorktown is taken for granted today, but it was a massive operation, and succeeded better than its planners could have hoped. The Treaty of Paris would not be signed for 2 more years, but Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown effectively ended the Rev War.

American Revolution Museum at Yorktown
- it's a wonderful museum. In addition, it has a Revolution-era farm, which in some ways displays several of the things you would see at Colonial Williamsburg

Jamestown Settlement
- it can be kind of hot if you visit this in the summer. However, it was the 1st permanent English settlement in America, which makes it pretty important. There is a visitors center with a gallery and a film about the settlement and the Native Americans they encountered. (If I recall correctly, you can buy a combined ticket for the American Revolution Museum and Jamestown Settlement at a discounted price.)

Yorktown (the town)
- there are several historic buildings in Yorktown which you can tour

There's also a Virginia State Park in the area that I haven't visited in @ 20 years, and whose name I forget, but it was a hidden gem for Rev War displays and information

That's my overview on visiting Colonial Williamsburg. To your specific questions:



that's tough to answer. Some parts of Colonial Williamsburg are buildings that existed in 1776, and were saved as part of the efforts of Colonial Williamsburg. Many other buildings are recreations. The actors and the recreated buildings give an impression of how things were in the 18th century that is somewhat accurate



If you're just visiting Colonial Williamsburg, I think 1 day would be plenty. If it's really hot, or if you have any type of mobility issues (you do walk a lot if you tour all of it), then 2 days would be needed. If you expand your visit to take in the places I recommended above, as well as Colonial Williamsburg, I think you'd need 3 - 5 days to do them justice.

I hope that helps.

Tom.
Thank you, and the others, for the terrific responses. As soon as I made the post I thought how stupid it was to make it on Blue/White weekend, and I wasn't sure if you would have a chance to respond at all. Your lengthy and detailed response is far more than I ever expected and I am very grateful.
One thing I have learned from you, and the others, is that Summer is not the best time to visit. My wife and I have no mobility issues, but neither of us do well in the heat and so we will schedule our trip for the fall, or around Christmas.
You, and the others, have given me a wealth of information and I expect my trip will be much more enjoyable than had I not asked. We will likely also take the time to visit Jamestown and Yorktown.
A friend of mine, who contributes to Colonial Williamsburg, told me there is a new book coming out in May, I think, written by the guy who portrays Jefferson in Williamsburg. I think it's called "Becoming Jefferson". He has advanced ordered it and said I could read it before going on my trip.

Again, I thank you Tom, and all who replied. I am overwhelmed that so many took the time to respond.
 
It is interesting that as the quality of the restaurants that are the official ones has gone downhill. The ones right outside the main part are WAY better these days.
When we went about 8 years ago we could not get into any of the official restaurants for dinner. We end up eating near the W&M campus.
 
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Williamsburg has become our go-to for years when we want relatively easy, no muss vacations. I would say that Colonial Williamsburg is our LEAST favorite aspect of the experience. We'll generally go for about half a day, and that's it.

Here's a big part of why we love visiting there -- the Summer Bounce Ticket, good for unlimited visits to CW, Busch Gardens and Water Country USA for one week. Parking is included. Price is $150 per for adults, which may seem high but for unlimited visits to those terrific parks, it's a great value. https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.com/tickets/summer-bounce-ticket

Nice thing about having that ticket is that you don't fell compelled to beat yourselves silly by spending a whole day at a park to get your money's worth. We'll spend an evening here, a morning there, etc. and come out feeling much fresher than we would with a full day in an amusement park. My kids (13 and 15) absolutely love Water Country USA. It's an outstanding water park.

Also, we stay at the Kingsmill Resort https://www.kingsmill.com/, which has two huge pools, one with a lazy river, plus a dock on the James River with jet ski rentals, fishing, paddleboarding and more. Over the course of the week, we probably spend two or three days just hanging at the resort.

Virginia Beach is close enough for a day trip, which we typically do once or twice during a stay.
 
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