Re-watched (ugh) the game

[N&B4PSU]

I was right... after Gross-Matos made huge sack around the 5 forcing 3rd and long in first qtr he WAS removed and Indy QB ran for first down on next play. Just seemed absurd at the time... seemed more so when I re-watched.

As to Miller... he played a lot and made a couple plays and he did get injured around the 6:30 mark of the 3rd qtr..,. but he was back in by the 5:30 mark. He was mostly ineffective all day but did make a critical play in last Indy drive... after which he hobbled off, collapsed to ground on his back. No idea if just exhausted or hurt.

Do we win that game if their better QB (Pinnick?) goes out? Ramsey played tough but his backup was clearly a step better (imo).

That sideline play where the ref (who had clear view and made emphatic call) ruled receiver (who should have been called for an obvious push-off) knee touched before he got OOB. [And is that reviewable??]

Question to board on the rule: If you hold ball over the OOB line (let's call it the sideline version of the goal line) while you're still in play, are you considered OOB? Logic says no (thinking about a guy tussling with a defender and runner's arm -- with ball in it -- crosses over the plane but he then swings back and breaks away for a big gain... can't see him being ruled OOB. So I'm guessing that the ball has to touch OOB ground before the knee touched... and it didn't. Correct call (using my reasoning).

Is Gross-Matos ok? He got hurt near the end and hobbled off?

On the targeting call ( which is gonna hurt like hell the first 30 mins vs iowa), I found myself thinking that if everyone is saying 'i dunno, it's really close' that maybe a full game suspension is kinda harsh. Just sayin...

OK, nuff said.

 

[81b&w]

On the targeting call ( which is gonna hurt like hell the first 30 mins vs iowa), I found myself thinking that if everyone is saying 'i dunno, it's really close' that maybe a full game suspension is kinda harsh.

Absolutely, and the announcers certainly hinted that too

 

[nits74]

Absolutely, and the announcers certainly hinted that too

Yep, and they did more than hint at it.

 

[N&B4PSU]

Is that the Miller you were talking about wrt being injured? Shareef?


I had thought you were referring to Jarvis.

Yes, Shareef was down a couple times - but came back in each time. Same thing happened in a couple games earlier in the year (including the Pitt game). I don’t know if he’s “nursing” something, or if he just has gotten gassed from time to time (he’s played a ton of snaps)

Think you and I had our miller's mixed, lol. Yes, Shareef.

 

[N&B4PSU]

I rarely see his name here, but it seems #26 is a player... always seems to be around the ball, hits with authority.. plays hard.

Not watching games as closely as in years past so maybe my observations aren't on... curious what others think. [I do know he created one very much needed turnover]

 

[ILLINOISLION]

I rarely see his name here, but it seems #26 is a player... always seems to be around the ball, hits with authority.. plays hard.

Not watching games as closely as in years past so maybe my observations aren't on... curious what others think. [I do know he created one very much needed turnover]

I agree. He didn’t seem to play much against tOSU or MSU and I don’t know why.

I think I posted something after tOSU game, thought he might have made some of the tackles that everyone else was missing.

 

[81b&w]

I rarely see his name here, but it seems #26 is a player... always seems to be around the ball, hits with authority.. plays hard.

Not watching games as closely as in years past so maybe my observations aren't on... curious what others think. [I do know he created one very much needed turnover]

I like him, reminds me of Polamalu with the hair swinging around and him flying around

 

[N&B4PSU]

Yeah...... Shareef played a ton (don’t have the exact number in front of me), and your right, he definitely “went down” to the turf at least once - maybe a couple times. I do seem to recall him playing a lot on those last two II series...... but I couldn’t say for sure. Do you remember him being out there? I would certainly hope he’s good to go for Iowa

He had that big play on first down in the final series when he went out. I just got the impression he played TOO much and was spent. Caught him out in coverage a few times but it seemed like #48 was a big focus for Indy (whren he was at DE) and he had to work his ass off against large people to make something happen.

That play he made on the last series was an act of sheer will... and yeah, i think he was gassed and had nothing in the tank after it.