Rewatched RBY-Gross match last night...

[CJFisJoePaII]

...anyone else baffled how RBY was not awarded a takedown (live or after Cael's Challenge) midway through 3rd? RBY limp-armed out of Gross' whizzer and has Gross around the waist while Gross is in a 4-point stance. Gross then does a half-Gramby and grabs RBY's ankle/shin at the same time his shoulders hit the mat after tucking his head, but he doesn't do this until AFTER RBY has limp-armed out of the whizzed and come out directly behind him with arms around his waist and Gross' hands and feet all on the mat (Gross puts the hand he was using in whizzed down on the mat for balance after RBY limp-arm out). How on earth was that not ruled a TD? There is no "reaction time" in that situation when Gross puts both his hands down for balance in a 4-point stance when RBY limp-arms out of whizzer and is directly behind Gross with both hands/arms on his waist.

 

[nitlion6]

...anyone else baffled how RBY was not awarded a takedown (live or after Cael's Challenge) midway through 3rd? RBY limp-armed out of Gross' whizzer and has Gross around the waist while Gross is in a 4-point stance. Gross then does a half-Gramby and grabs RBY's ankle/shin at the same time his shoulders hit the mat after tucking his head, but he doesn't do this until AFTER RBY has limp-armed out of the whizzed and come out directly behind him with arms around his waist and Gross' hands and feet all on the mat (Gross puts the hand he was using in whizzed down on the mat for balance after RBY limp-arm out). How on earth was that not ruled a TD? There is no "reaction time" in that situation when Gross puts both his hands down for balance in a 4-point stance when RBY limp-arms out of whizzer and is directly behind Gross with both hands/arms on his waist.

Gross reached under and through to grab RBY's ankle prior to the limp arm. IMO the call was correct.

 

[Rhino80]

Gross reached under and through to grab RBY's ankle prior to the limp arm. IMO the call was correct.

Agree, I thought it was a takedown live but after looking closer Gross had the leg. Unfortunately it was a good call.

 

[PSUcup1]

Agree, I thought it was a takedown live but after looking closer Gross had the leg. Unfortunately it was a good call.

yep … thought the same thing

 

[RoarLions1]

For past discussions...

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/willies-comments-on-rby-and-desanto-match.259655/

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/stoppages-willies-take.259675/

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/gross-rby-revisited.260258/

 

[dunkej01]

...anyone else baffled how RBY was not awarded a takedown (live or after Cael's Challenge) midway through 3rd? RBY limp-armed out of Gross' whizzer and has Gross around the waist while Gross is in a 4-point stance. Gross then does a half-Gramby and grabs RBY's ankle/shin at the same time his shoulders hit the mat after tucking his head, but he doesn't do this until AFTER RBY has limp-armed out of the whizzed and come out directly behind him with arms around his waist and Gross' hands and feet all on the mat (Gross puts the hand he was using in whizzed down on the mat for balance after RBY limp-arm out). How on earth was that not ruled a TD? There is no "reaction time" in that situation when Gross puts both his hands down for balance in a 4-point stance when RBY limp-arms out of whizzer and is directly behind Gross with both hands/arms on his waist.

@wildturkeysauce i think this is a fire worth fighting. Go!