RUMOR — Oregon to the Big Ten?
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So... not actually a rumor of Oregon joining the Big Ten. This sounds more like Oregon begging the conference to admit them as opposed to the Big Ten truly considering them as a member.
What did he say that was incorrect? Not saying it won't happen but it doesn't seem to be imminent.
I really think it's just a matter of time before Oregon and Washington are in the B1G That pulls in the Portland and Seattle TV markets which seems to be just as important to the conference as the brand name of the school. Of course, ND is their main target but don't be surprised to see them invite Arizona State as that Phoenix area is huge now - close to 5 million in the metro area
Follow the money.....I mean the Big Ten took Rutgers and Maryland. Markets not football tradition.
If markets are the key then the Bay Area (Stanford and/or Cal), Phoenix (Arizona St and/or Arizona), and Denver (Colorado) are all much bigger markets than Portland. If that were driving the bus for further expansion.
If you aren't bringing revenue you aren't invited.
Agreed. That's why I'm skeptical of any further expansion with Pac-12 teams at the present time. If there were schools that would have expanded the payouts for the Big Ten, they would have been invited over the summer before the TV deal was signed. Any Pac-12 school would have jumped to accept an invite after USC/UCLA left. The Big Ten conference ran the numbers and consulted the TV folks and apparently determined that no one added enough revenue to warrant an invite.
I don't see how that would suddenly change now. I guess there's always some sort of wild card like Phil Knight annually paying the conference tens of millions of dollars directly to get them to accept Oregon, but I don't think even he has the kind of deep pockets that could make the financials work out.
Agree but Portland isn't exactly a cow town - it's metro has grown to 2.5 million. And keep in mind, that school gets whatever they want from Uncle Phil (Knight and Nike). Their track & field facility is probably the best in the country.
Oregon and Washington are the obvious pair to add along with Stanford. That get you basically the entire West Coast. I think the hope was Notre Dame would make the 4th team to goto 20 but if ND is staying independent for the time being, the next question will be does Big Ten add some west coast teams to try and not have UCLA/USC on an island. If ND is not the 4th team, Cal or Colorado would be that 4th team potential if Big 10 really wants to goto 20 instead of 19 (really don't understand the issue with 19 teams at that point as everybody knows that is only temporary until ND and ACC eventually break up and the top teams join the SEC and Big 10).
They're groveling and looking to remind the BIG that their academics are better than Nebraska's. I say sign them up.
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Maybe not but their biggest fear is POing the other conference schools which could result in getting locked out of the Playoffs and key bowl games and also could result in future scheduling problems when other teams just refuse to play them - it all comes down to their ARROGANCE.
Oregon is almost certainly going to be part of the Big Ten and it will be sooner rather than later. Oregon fans are awesome. There will be some access to the Portland market but more importantly, they will bring Penn State, Michigan and Ohio State out west on a regular basis. Think about bringing in Rutgers. Penn State and Notre Dame dominate what little college football market there is in NYC. Rutgers brought some additional revenue via the Big Ten network but grew the market by bringing in two of the Big Three every year.
I agree but I also believe that both the Big Ten or SEC would happily take Notre Dame at any time regardless of how many teams they have at that time.
Oregon will be paired with Washington. Stanford and Berkeley are tied together although Stanford is worried about the B1G paying players. That’s right. New commissioner is exploring because of the size of the TV deal.
That’s your 20 teams mentioned last week by the commish. Only a matter of time.
Also hearing a Texas team may be tempted for later admittance, as well.
That’s your 20 teams mentioned last week by the commish. Only a matter of time.
Also hearing a Texas team may be tempted for later admittance, as well.
Houston would be the most obvious
Maybe A&M wants to run away from Texas again though lol
It seems to be a difficult task to be alone on an island down there separated from the rest of the conference.
I rarely watch or listen to Cowherd, but I stopped channel surfing for a discussion on the reports Oregon reaching out to the B10. The talking head guest claimed that there was no interest in adding Stanford on either side. He seemed to be claiming that the B10 believes it can achieve its goals without them and Stanford isn't interested involving itself in everything that the super-conferences will entail. I take most of what I hear with a grain of salt since I believe most of the people talking are making SWAGs and claiming they have "sources." That said, it's an interesting claim that may or may not be true.
It's Likely The Big Ten Will Add Oregon: REPORT
It sounds like there's a very good chance the Oregon Ducks eventually land in the Big Ten. Will Oregon leave the PAC-12 for the Big Ten?
www.outkick.com
The Outkick writer of that article is a hack, but it looks like he is just reporting what McMurphy is reporting. It looks like there is at least some smoke around Oregon to the BIG.It's Likely The Big Ten Will Add Oregon: REPORT
It sounds like there's a very good chance the Oregon Ducks eventually land in the Big Ten. Will Oregon leave the PAC-12 for the Big Ten?
ASU
ASU is a No. If it was all markets then they would also be grabbing Colorado for Denver, Utah for Salt Lake, Kansas State and Kansas for KC, Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor for Dallas....on and on. There is an academic component to this and ASU does not make the cut. Plus ASU is very average to below average in hoops and football. But hey they have Bobby Hurley as their fearless hoops coach so maybe he single handedly gets them in the B10.
Well, neither do Nebraska or Iowa but we have them.
. I have to admit- I’d prefer ASU over Stanford and Cal.
I’ve seen it reported that Stanford higher ups don’t like the path college football is taking (paying players, nfl minor league) and aren’t sure they’d want to follow. Don’t know how true that is, but I can definitely respect it.
Nebby got in under different circumstances and I doubt that they would get in today. Part of it was people thought they would have a pulse in football and not be the bottom feeder that they are. If you rank the 14 B10 schools on academics, football and mens basketball strength, Nebraska would be last. Iowa got in back in the 40s or whenever so they ain't leaving.Well, neither do Nebraska or Iowa but we have them.
I like Cal and Stanford because it enhances the academic credibility of the conference but besides school presidents who cares.
Btw, looking at PSU's academic ranking we would be borderline to get in now. I think we are bottom 4-5 in the conference.
UCLA won't "fall though"...the B1G will bring along Cal if it has to.
Agree as well. One way or another, 6 pac teams in total will be in our conference to preserve some traditions/rivalries out there and assist in managing travel budgets.
Isn't most of PSU academic rankings decline based upon our sky high tuition rates?
I looked and we are 7th in B10 according to U.S. News so not as bad as I thought. I can understand NW, scUM, Wisky and Illinois above us. Hard to understand Purdon't and freaking O$U above us although not significantly. There is no way O$U engineering matches PSU.
This is dead on. I understand the allure of market sizes, but what really counts is how many people are tuning in.
Look up TV revenue by school and you'll see who's really attractive.
