Runner slaps TV reporter’s backside. Caught on camera.
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If we remember the letter to a PSU player from that dummy who was critical of that player's hairstyle and appearance, it seems we have the same group of old white men taking a similar stance here as there ... "well, it was dumb, but don't make a big deal out of it ... let's not do anything about it ... let's move on."
The sometimes over-the-top condemnations of these types of actions are exactly in response to that kind of attitude ... not doing anything about it allows it to continue ... and perpetuates a culture where it's just dummies being dummies, rather than holding people accountable for their actions by confronting them, and trying to force a culture change. And it's been ingrained in society for so long to just allow these kinds of insulting or demeaning types of things to go on, that you need to make a big stink about it in order for something to possibly change.
Understand, and grow, emotionally, to the point where you realize that, while something may not be important to you, it's important to others, and you support that outlook, and those pushing for change, even if it doesn't personally benefit you, or seem to be a big deal. If we all took that kind of an attitude, we likely wouldn't have these huge "over-reactions," because we'd be addressing things in due course.
The sometimes over-the-top condemnations of these types of actions are exactly in response to that kind of attitude ... not doing anything about it allows it to continue ... and perpetuates a culture where it's just dummies being dummies, rather than holding people accountable for their actions by confronting them, and trying to force a culture change. And it's been ingrained in society for so long to just allow these kinds of insulting or demeaning types of things to go on, that you need to make a big stink about it in order for something to possibly change.
Understand, and grow, emotionally, to the point where you realize that, while something may not be important to you, it's important to others, and you support that outlook, and those pushing for change, even if it doesn't personally benefit you, or seem to be a big deal. If we all took that kind of an attitude, we likely wouldn't have these huge "over-reactions," because we'd be addressing things in due course.
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Maybe he should be more respectful, Bob.Maybe we should burn the guy at the stake. (The runner, not dem. O.K., dem too.)
He should be, so what’s the punishment? Death? Life in prison? What does a mistake in judgement result in these days? I know...millions of dollars because throwing money at something always solves the problem.
The punishment for this criminal "mistake in judgment" is already written into the code of the state where he did this.
Going five MPH over the limit is also criminal...what should the punishment for that be?
My view from 30,000 feet ... it was a dumb, spontaneous, stupid, "prank" as opposed to a pre-meditated pattern of behavior. The guy (and his family) have been publicly outed and he has publicly apologized. Let's let the local community who know the guy and his work with children decide if the good he does for children overcomes the "risk" of letting "a guy like this" continue to work with children.
Certainly, the "victim" can decide to pursue whatever legal action she chooses.
Whatever the law says. BTW, nice job of minimizing how he diminished her on live TV.
Well, on the spectrum of bad things that can happen to a person, this is pretty low on the scale. I had a drunk girl grab my crotch in front of a bunch of my coworkers and my boss (she was not with our company and I didn’t know her at all)....I rank what she did right up there with what this guy did. It was classless, rude and I was embarrassed as hell, but I ignored it and I lived.
Damn. You missed an opportunity to be a victim on the news and ruin her life. What were you thinking?
Looking back at your choice, are you really living?
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I'm not sure our thoughts are 1000% in alignment but they're close enough on what I think is your best point.
Your message about growth and growing up is right on. Most or all of us have slapped a girl on the butt. And many of us had ours slapped as well...by, say, a cheerleader or something and found it more complimentary than inflammatory. But most of us stopped doing that in high school, or maybe college at the latest. While still not in bounds, those are very different ages and contexts than an adult youth minister (certainly a role-model position) doing it to a young adult woman while she's working and facing a camera rolling a public TV feed.
Everyone seems to agree it was the wrong thing to do--hence my disagreement with celebrating being... Where folks disagree is in the appropriate response. I don't know for sure but I'm guessing some of the resistance to agree on a harsh response is rooted in our own memories. We've all done that, or many of us have done similar at different ages and in different situations--and reasonably expected different consequences.
So i see it less as trying to maintain a status quo of behavior we agree is inappropriate. Instead, I expect there's some recognition of our own misdeeds and when we revisit them there's fear our lives could have been ruined for them. The difference is we've grown up. And for most of us who haven't, we're likely not in role-model positions making that mistake in front of a live TV feed.
Part of living in a harmonious culture is being forgiving as well. People will make mistakes, forgiving those mistakes helps make a better society too.
That seems to be the new way of doing things these days. Plus someone usually gets rich from it.
No doubt. If it was a gay guy that did that to them in front of their friends, they would probably feel justified in beating the guy to death.
If this clown gets his life ruined, it will be because HE used poor judgment. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Bingo. The TV gal will likely announce that this incident has "ruined her life" and she will hire a scumbag lawyer and sue someone with deep pockets. In this case the perp is a minister. Thus, his religious denomination will be sued for millions of dollars for "ruining her life". That is is way it is done these days. The religious denomination will likely settle out of court for a million or so to avoid legal costs and publicity and the TV gal and scumbag lawyers will then pocket a half million apiece.
We now live in a society where forgiveness for an innocent mistake is not an option. Every impolite act must be punished in the most extreme way possible and must be punished in a way that makes tons of money for lawyers.
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That's correct. By attempting to ruin his life the following people are guaranteed job security.
1. Arresting Officer-$150,000 annually
2. Prosecutor-$130,000 annually
3. Judge-$225,000 Annually
4. Defense Attorney-$10,000 for the case
5. County Office-Administrative staff: log & file all the paperwork ($1,200,000 in salaries)
6. Stenographer ($60,000)
7. Courtroom Sheriff ($85,000)
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10......
Job security and salaries is usually dictated by workload, unions then negotiate on behalf of the government employees. By making low level crimes stricter and stricter arrests go through the roof. If low level misdemeanor offenses were treated like moving violations where the officer just issue a ticket you would have massive layoffs, attorneys firms would be closing their doors and county prisons would be rezoned as co-ops. The justice system is bloated by design not necessarily to stop crime. JMHO
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It'd be a lot easier to forgive the guy if he actually came clean, rather than trying to dance around the fact of what happened. When he's saying that he just wanted to raise his hands in the air, but then somehow went momentarily insane and ended up slapping her ... and when he's admitting that he slapped her in the back, but doesn't remember where he hit her ... that's nonsense. Admit that you were running in one lane, purposefully moved over to the lane right beside her, and you decided that you were going to "smack that ass," but now you realize you were a POS (and give reasons why you changed your mind on the subject) ... then someone might believe you. "I totally just lost my mind, that's not like me ... besides, I can't even be sure I touched her there" just isn't a message that gets the job done.
Various adjectives come to mind to describe the guy's behavior: Inappropriate. Obnoxious. Piggish. Stupid.
By the time they reach middle age, an awful lot of women, maybe most, have experienced some version of this -- though usually not on camera for the world to see.
But this particular pig got caught and is being publicly humiliated. Good. I don't feel sorry for him.
Moreover, if I'm the parent of a kid in either his boy scout troop or youth ministry activities, this would raise serious questions in my mind about the guy's character and judgment.
By the time they reach middle age, an awful lot of women, maybe most, have experienced some version of this -- though usually not on camera for the world to see.
But this particular pig got caught and is being publicly humiliated. Good. I don't feel sorry for him.
Moreover, if I'm the parent of a kid in either his boy scout troop or youth ministry activities, this would raise serious questions in my mind about the guy's character and judgment.
That said, I think criminal prosecution would be ridiculous overkill. Nor do I think he should be fired and have his life ruined. (I'm assuming here that his main job is not youth minister.)
I mean, c'mon, if garden-variety piggishness were made a crime, the courts would be very busy indeed.
I mean, c'mon, if garden-variety piggishness were made a crime, the courts would be very busy indeed.
strange you feel so much sympathy for this dude and apparently none for the woman.
it really says a lot about you
It is a "but" apology--set forth to check the apology box while pretending that you did not actually do anything intentional to apologize for. White men get away with this all the time, mostly because other white men accept this sort of flaccid bullsh!t as being an actual apology, instead of the duck and cover it is.
Simple battery in Georgia:
Simple Battery Charges in Georgia
Simple battery (O.C.G.A §16-5-23) is described as intentionally making physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature with or intentionally causing physical harm to another person. As a misdemeanor, simple battery can carry penalties of up to a year in prison, fines reaching $1,000, probation, and restitution. Similar to simple assault, it is important to note that there are circumstances that can elevate the charge to a high and aggravated misdemeanor, which carries more significant penalties.
Given the nature of this, the penalty would be in the very low range, or even perhaps deferred altogether pending completion of a probation-like period in which he satisfies the court that he will not be seized by a similar convulsion of stupidity like he was this time. Oh yeah, to get the deferral and end up with a dismissed charge? You are going to have to come up with an apology wherein you admit you did something wrong, unlike that bullsh!t he said.
Simple Battery Charges in Georgia
Simple battery (O.C.G.A §16-5-23) is described as intentionally making physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature with or intentionally causing physical harm to another person. As a misdemeanor, simple battery can carry penalties of up to a year in prison, fines reaching $1,000, probation, and restitution. Similar to simple assault, it is important to note that there are circumstances that can elevate the charge to a high and aggravated misdemeanor, which carries more significant penalties.
Given the nature of this, the penalty would be in the very low range, or even perhaps deferred altogether pending completion of a probation-like period in which he satisfies the court that he will not be seized by a similar convulsion of stupidity like he was this time. Oh yeah, to get the deferral and end up with a dismissed charge? You are going to have to come up with an apology wherein you admit you did something wrong, unlike that bullsh!t he said.
Should get interesting down-the-road when she (or some of her close friends) get caught grabbing some guy’s butt in a bar sometime around 1AM.
Sorry, I think she loses SOME sympathy when she says he “took her power” from her (or something to that effect). She SHOULD certainly have called him out for his action, no question about it; but she then COULD have been a big girl, showed some class and move on instead of dragging this out in social / anti-social media like a drama queen.
Sorry, I think she loses SOME sympathy when she says he “took her power” from her (or something to that effect). She SHOULD certainly have called him out for his action, no question about it; but she then COULD have been a big girl, showed some class and move on instead of dragging this out in social / anti-social media like a drama queen.
You realize she also said it physically hurt her? I don’t blame her one bit, I honestly don’t. People need to realize this behavior has consequences.
On one hand I hate the cancel culture BS buuut he did this to himself.
It’s hard to be honest and sincere in your apology when you have to worry about setting yourself up for a huge lawsuit and to have your life ruined. The lack of forgiveness has led to a lack of apologies.
What consequences though? Do we really want to live in a society where one bad judgement call ruins a person’s life?
Then fine him a $1000 and be done with it.
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