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Scouting new PSU WR Devonte Ross, a Troy transfer

Wow. This is the second player who has gone from "we must get" to "not good enough" the SECOND he signed with Penn State 😂.

This is a great pickup and now we need one more. Two isn't enough, we need three.
 
Wow. This is the second player who has gone from "we must get" to "not good enough" the SECOND he signed with Penn State 😂.

This is a great pickup and now we need one more. Two isn't enough, we need three.
No one had him as a must get. He's rated 56 among portal receivers. Who has a receiver outside thw top 50 as a must get?

This is a depth move that helps the return game. Tez Johnson he is not. Good add but not a game changer.

After the reaction of Evans on social media I'm sure they're trying to explain that to him.

Wallace is still our best WR which is a problem.
 
Another Saunders who has barely gotten on the field, and was extremely highly rated coming out of hs. I believe Bama was after him also, but no production at all.
 
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No one had him as a must get. He's rated 56 among portal receivers. Who has a receiver outside thw top 50 as a must get?

This is a depth move that helps the return game. Tez Johnson he is not. Good add but not a game changer.

After the reaction of Evans on social media I'm sure they're trying to explain that to him.

Wallace is still our best WR which is a problem.
Still the same WR coach…..at the moment.
 
Wow. This is the second player who has gone from "we must get" to "not good enough" the SECOND he signed with Penn State 😂.

This is a great pickup and now we need one more. Two isn't enough, we need three.


Is he still a great pickup?
 
Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.

OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
 
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Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.

OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.

They're actually dialing back their approach a bit. With NIL, the elite WRs are demanding more money than what OSU is willing to pay. Their new approach is to take one really elite WR and then add in some solid 4* types that Hartline will develop.

We offered more NIL money for Quincy Porter than OSU did, from what I've heard. And Dezie Jones, the 4* WR from NJ who was very high on us at one point, ended up going to OSU. Two guys that we really needed, and we lost those recruitments not because of NIL but because we are developing a reputation for being a WR graveyard.

Really comes down to coaching. And we're falling far short.
 
Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.

OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
Penn State has offered several top end WRs; they chose to go elsewhere. Stop the nonsense.
 
They're actually dialing back their approach a bit. With NIL, the elite WRs are demanding more money than what OSU is willing to pay. Their new approach is to take one really elite WR and then add in some solid 4* types that Hartline will develop.

We offered more NIL money for Quincy Porter than OSU did, from what I've heard. And Dezie Jones, the 4* WR from NJ who was very high on us at one point, ended up going to OSU. Two guys that we really needed, and we lost those recruitments not because of NIL but because we are developing a reputation for being a WR graveyard.

Really comes down to coaching. And we're falling far short.
I don’t agree. The best WRs have a feel for running routes and being able to win 50/50 balls. See Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, Jahan Dotson, etc.
 
Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.

OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
Here are some of the offers our WRs have received. These are either underclassmen or class of 2025.

Denmark - OSU, Oregon, Georgia, Texas, Alabama, USC, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Michigan

Brown - Georgia, Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan

Saunders - Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas

Clifford - Michigan, Tennessee

Exinor - Michigan, Oregon, USC, Tennessee

Howard - Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Tennessee

Outten - Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina


One of our biggest rivals, Michigan, offered 5 out of the 7 players. 5 had Tennessee offers, 4 from Georgia, 4 from Notre Dame, etc. In other words, our problem isn't lack of talent or that we're taking WRs that nobody else wants. It's coaching.
 
Here are some of the offers our WRs have received. These are either underclassmen or class of 2025.

Denmark - OSU, Oregon, Georgia, Texas, Alabama, USC, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Michigan

Brown - Georgia, Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan

Saunders - Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas

Clifford - Michigan, Tennessee

Exinor - Michigan, Oregon, USC, Tennessee

Howard - Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Tennessee

Outten - Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina


One of our biggest rivals, Michigan, offered 5 out of the 7 players. 5 had Tennessee offers, 4 from Georgia, 4 from Notre Dame, etc. In other words, our problem isn't lack of talent or that we're taking WRs that nobody else wants. It's coaching.

ZERO catches in ND game. ZERO! You could have a bunch of walk-ons at WR and it would be almost impossible to have ZERO catches by WRs.
 
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Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.

OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.


Maybe you should find a new team.

You are not too bright. Psu offered the 5*. They don't want to play for fans like you.

Once the five stars commit elsewhere, what is your plan? Should psu take the best available or not take anyone?
 
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They're actually dialing back their approach a bit. With NIL, the elite WRs are demanding more money than what OSU is willing to pay. Their new approach is to take one really elite WR and then add in some solid 4* types that Hartline will develop.

We offered more NIL money for Quincy Porter than OSU did, from what I've heard. And Dezie Jones, the 4* WR from NJ who was very high on us at one point, ended up going to OSU. Two guys that we really needed, and we lost those recruitments not because of NIL but because we are developing a reputation for being a WR graveyard.

Really comes down to coaching. And we're falling far short.


OSU has not developed too many low 4 stars.

I think they only have 4 WRs with over 5 catches. I think three of them were five stars and a high four star.
 
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Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.

OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
Recruiting WO's at PS has become a problem that is multi-faceted. Recruiting coaching development then targets to WO's during the season has been dropping consistently for years. MO on the dropping targets of WO's is that there are too many drops by the WO's so they try to maximize those targets to TE's and RB's. If the WO's are consistently dropping balls, you simply cannot continue to waist those opportunities as you only get so many of those opportunities a game.

When it comes to getting coaches, it helps to have a certain level of talent on hand. It takes years to start from scratch and if you're not a very strong recruiter it's hard to bring in a guy who takes a long look at the talent the scheme and if the targets aren't there well good luck. So, you will have to pay big bucks for the coach and the recruits to not have it take forever to recover which is where PS is currently. But it only takes one big time player to get it started. They are going to have to pay for both like it or not.

So, point being this is not going to be an easy fix and will probably take a while longer.
 
OSU has not developed too many low 4 stars.

I think they only have 4 WRs wig over 5 catches. I think three of them were five stars and a high four star.
The past few years they've had some can't miss studs. But it's possible to get production out of guys who aren't highly rated. Olave was a 3 star who led the team in yards receiving in both 2019 and 2020. Before that Paris Campbell was a low 4 who led the team in yards in 2018.
 
OSU has not developed too many low 4 stars.

I think they only have 4 WRs wig over 5 catches. I think three of them were five stars and a high four star.

Well, there's Chris Olave and Terry McLaurin, for one. McLaurin was a solid 4*, but not remotely considered an elite prospect. Olave was a 3*.

Coaching and developing still matter a great deal. Marvin Harrison Jr. was the #160 recruit in his class per 247. Lower than Lonnie White.
 
I don’t agree. The best WRs have a feel for running routes and being able to win 50/50 balls. See Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, Jahan Dotson, etc.

You don't agree with which part.......that coaching/developing are super important?

If it's just about route-running and winning 50/50 balls, aren't those things that scouts can see when doing their evaluations? And aren't those evaluations reflected in the rankings?

Fact is, a whole lot of development happens once these kids hit campus. Much of it is on the player -- crappy coaches can have elite players, and elite coaches can have total busts. But the coaching piece is absolutely critical.

Our WR room has far underperformed their talent level and potential. It's either a major coincidence that our guys keep underperforming, or there's a commonality.
 
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The past few years they've had some can't miss studs. But it's possible to get production out of guys who aren't highly rated. Olave was a 3 star who led the team in yards receiving in both 2019 and 2020. Before that Paris Campbell was a low 4 who led the team in yards in 2018.


OSU does not even have a 3 star in their current wr room.

Olave was a 92 4* on 247 and had 4.3 speed.

If you want to go back to Paris Campbell we might as well say psu does a better job recruiting and developing WRs since we had Godwin, Hamilton, thompkins, Johnson, and blacknall .

OSU current wr room only has 4 players with over 5 catches. Those four included 3 five stars and a high 4 star.
 
OSU does not even have a 3 star in their current wr room.

Olave was a 92 4* on 247 and had 4.3 speed.

If you want to go back to Paris Campbell we might as well say psu does a better job recruiting and developing WRs since we had Godwin, Hamilton, thompkins, Johnson, and blacknall .

OSU current wr room only has 4 players with over 5 catches. Those four included 3 five stars and a high 4 star.

Chris Olave was a composite 3* recruit. Utah and UCLA were his favorites before Ohio State offered him.

Why would Brian Hartline need to recruit 3* kids unless one really jumps out at him? He can land 5* or 4* WRs with ease given his reputation.

The shade Hartline gets on his board is weird. I forget who it was, but there was a poster here who said that Hartline is no better than any WR coach we've had.....he's just a better recruiter.

He's had 4 first round WRs now with at least 2 more in his current room. Just wait until he gets to work on Quincy Porter and Chris Henry Jr. The most productive position coach in the country by a mile.
 
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Well, there's Chris Olave and Terry McLaurin, for one. McLaurin was a solid 4*, but not remotely considered an elite prospect. Olave was a 3*.

Coaching and developing still matter a great deal. Marvin Harrison Jr. was the #160 recruit in his class per 247. Lower than Lonnie White.
Lonnie White, there's a throwback recruits name. Is he still playing baseball in the Pirates system?
 
Chris Olave was a composite 3* recruit. Utah and UCLA were his favorites before Ohio State offered him.

Why would Brian Hartline need to recruit 3* kids unless one really jumps out at him? He can land 5* or 4* WRs with ease given his reputation.

The shade Hartline gets on his board is weird. I forget who it was, but there was a poster here who said that Hartline is no better than any WR coach we've had.....he's just a better recruiter.

He's had 4 first round WRs now with at least 2 more in his current room. Just wait until he gets to work on Quincy Porter and Chris Henry Jr. The most productive position coach in the country by a mile.


Nobody threw shade dipchit. Not a negative word said about hartline.


Maybe you consider it shade to point out that osu has 0 3 star wrs on scholarship.
 
He's not even a starter next season and that's nothing more than another failure. So far Jimmy has done jack shit in the portal and he still has a quack for a receiver coach. Pathetic.
 
JF is well aware, like millions of fans, that we have a serious problem with WR's who just can not get separation. Yet, take a look at the commitment's of the WR's in the 2026 class!!! Does he believe that Hagans is going to develop them into Olave, Harrison or Smith type WR's that the Buckeyes have???

We have a couple of highly rated WR's who are red shirt sophomores, Ivey for one, who haven't seen the field, let alone Saunders. Have they been moved to the DB? Anyone would be better than what we have been putting on the field the past two years. Its embarrassing when you watch WR's from schools like Texas Tech, SMU, Indiana, Mich St. Minny, etc. constantly getting open and making catches, yet ours might as well just sit on the bench.
 
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