Iowa plays are impressive, but a lot of red flags. Tiny as heck with questionable hands. Very good punt returner though
No one had him as a must get. He's rated 56 among portal receivers. Who has a receiver outside thw top 50 as a must get?Wow. This is the second player who has gone from "we must get" to "not good enough" the SECOND he signed with Penn State 😂.
This is a great pickup and now we need one more. Two isn't enough, we need three.
Still the same WR coach…..at the moment.No one had him as a must get. He's rated 56 among portal receivers. Who has a receiver outside thw top 50 as a must get?
This is a depth move that helps the return game. Tez Johnson he is not. Good add but not a game changer.
After the reaction of Evans on social media I'm sure they're trying to explain that to him.
Wallace is still our best WR which is a problem.
His drop ratio is not good and that's my biggest concern with him.
Iowa plays are impressive, but a lot of red flags. Tiny as heck with questionable hands. Very good punt returner though
I honestly think that will change after the season. Not sure who would be available, so I guess I wait and see.Still the same WR coach…..at the moment.
Wow. This is the second player who has gone from "we must get" to "not good enough" the SECOND he signed with Penn State 😂.
This is a great pickup and now we need one more. Two isn't enough, we need three.
Which team did Tez play for again?Tiny? Same size as Tez Johnson 5' 10'' 165 , the MVP against Penn State
Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.
OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
He means that Tez Johnson transferred from Troy.Oregon
Penn State has offered several top end WRs; they chose to go elsewhere. Stop the nonsense.Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.
OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
I don’t agree. The best WRs have a feel for running routes and being able to win 50/50 balls. See Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, Jahan Dotson, etc.They're actually dialing back their approach a bit. With NIL, the elite WRs are demanding more money than what OSU is willing to pay. Their new approach is to take one really elite WR and then add in some solid 4* types that Hartline will develop.
We offered more NIL money for Quincy Porter than OSU did, from what I've heard. And Dezie Jones, the 4* WR from NJ who was very high on us at one point, ended up going to OSU. Two guys that we really needed, and we lost those recruitments not because of NIL but because we are developing a reputation for being a WR graveyard.
Really comes down to coaching. And we're falling far short.
Here are some of the offers our WRs have received. These are either underclassmen or class of 2025.Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.
OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
Here are some of the offers our WRs have received. These are either underclassmen or class of 2025.
Denmark - OSU, Oregon, Georgia, Texas, Alabama, USC, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Michigan
Brown - Georgia, Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan
Saunders - Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas
Clifford - Michigan, Tennessee
Exinor - Michigan, Oregon, USC, Tennessee
Howard - Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Tennessee
Outten - Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina
One of our biggest rivals, Michigan, offered 5 out of the 7 players. 5 had Tennessee offers, 4 from Georgia, 4 from Notre Dame, etc. In other words, our problem isn't lack of talent or that we're taking WRs that nobody else wants. It's coaching.
Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.
OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
They're actually dialing back their approach a bit. With NIL, the elite WRs are demanding more money than what OSU is willing to pay. Their new approach is to take one really elite WR and then add in some solid 4* types that Hartline will develop.
We offered more NIL money for Quincy Porter than OSU did, from what I've heard. And Dezie Jones, the 4* WR from NJ who was very high on us at one point, ended up going to OSU. Two guys that we really needed, and we lost those recruitments not because of NIL but because we are developing a reputation for being a WR graveyard.
Really comes down to coaching. And we're falling far short.
Recruiting WO's at PS has become a problem that is multi-faceted. Recruiting coaching development then targets to WO's during the season has been dropping consistently for years. MO on the dropping targets of WO's is that there are too many drops by the WO's so they try to maximize those targets to TE's and RB's. If the WO's are consistently dropping balls, you simply cannot continue to waist those opportunities as you only get so many of those opportunities a game.Just look at the WR's we have offered and gotten the past few years. OSU wouldn't even take a first look at them. We offered a couple of 3 stars 5.6 and got their commitments for 2026 already. These are WR's you offer towards the end of a recruiting year, not 18 months or more ahead of time.
OSU gets the top 5 WR's every year, and we get excited over getting a WR rated #95 or more. We will never defeat them in the next 10-15 years. Don't know why JF doesn't get the big picture when it comes to offering talent that is inferior to our two biggest rivals, OSU, and UM.
The past few years they've had some can't miss studs. But it's possible to get production out of guys who aren't highly rated. Olave was a 3 star who led the team in yards receiving in both 2019 and 2020. Before that Paris Campbell was a low 4 who led the team in yards in 2018.OSU has not developed too many low 4 stars.
I think they only have 4 WRs wig over 5 catches. I think three of them were five stars and a high four star.
OSU has not developed too many low 4 stars.
I think they only have 4 WRs wig over 5 catches. I think three of them were five stars and a high four star.
I don’t agree. The best WRs have a feel for running routes and being able to win 50/50 balls. See Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, Jahan Dotson, etc.
The past few years they've had some can't miss studs. But it's possible to get production out of guys who aren't highly rated. Olave was a 3 star who led the team in yards receiving in both 2019 and 2020. Before that Paris Campbell was a low 4 who led the team in yards in 2018.
OSU does not even have a 3 star in their current wr room.
Olave was a 92 4* on 247 and had 4.3 speed.
If you want to go back to Paris Campbell we might as well say psu does a better job recruiting and developing WRs since we had Godwin, Hamilton, thompkins, Johnson, and blacknall .
OSU current wr room only has 4 players with over 5 catches. Those four included 3 five stars and a high 4 star.
Lonnie White, there's a throwback recruits name. Is he still playing baseball in the Pirates system?Well, there's Chris Olave and Terry McLaurin, for one. McLaurin was a solid 4*, but not remotely considered an elite prospect. Olave was a 3*.
Coaching and developing still matter a great deal. Marvin Harrison Jr. was the #160 recruit in his class per 247. Lower than Lonnie White.
Chris Olave was a composite 3* recruit. Utah and UCLA were his favorites before Ohio State offered him.
Why would Brian Hartline need to recruit 3* kids unless one really jumps out at him? He can land 5* or 4* WRs with ease given his reputation.
The shade Hartline gets on his board is weird. I forget who it was, but there was a poster here who said that Hartline is no better than any WR coach we've had.....he's just a better recruiter.
He's had 4 first round WRs now with at least 2 more in his current room. Just wait until he gets to work on Quincy Porter and Chris Henry Jr. The most productive position coach in the country by a mile.