Should congress get involved?
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God no.... government only screws things up and creates corruption
LOL, the NCAA was holding out hope they would help them and of course, they punted. If you want things really screwed up, let's get Congress! 
Would be interesting to see what happens if congress does act.LOL, the NCAA was holding out hope they would help them and of course, they punted. If you want things really screwed up, let's get Congress!
With NIL & the transfer portal why should players have to unionize?
No, the government should not get involved. The issue of football team competitiveness isn't important in the national scheme of things. The government is so far behind handling major issues that they should not waste their time on college football player transfers.
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I'm in the camp of government only making things worse. But then again, I'm watching record inflation/stagflation, gdp contracting, the stock market imploding, threat of nuclear war with Russia increasing, our southern border being over-run, schools and businesses were shut down and people forced to take experimental vaccines while they were on emergency use authorization or be fired or restricted from travel, and forced to wear masks that the cdc admits don't work. All in real time.
I'm from the government and I am here to help. Don't think so.
I'm from the government and I am here to help. Don't think so.
in what world should someone deciding where to do their extracurricular activity in any way lead to jail?
I caught some sports talk yesterday where they discussed the former AD of tOSU saying that the power five needs to pull away from the NCAA and make their own league. That league would negotiate their own TV deals and have a CBA with some kind of player organization.
I am absolutely 100% certain that there are, at least, informal discussions on the feasibility of a Power Five college football league. That could also include basketball. Frankly, nobody really cares about the other sports as those are the money-makers.
I am absolutely 100% certain that there are, at least, informal discussions on the feasibility of a Power Five college football league. That could also include basketball. Frankly, nobody really cares about the other sports as those are the money-makers.
You’re correct in saying that. But you can’t field all college football teams with 5* kids. If all the non rated, 3*, and 4* kids ban together it levels the playing field. These kids are taking the same amount of hits, lifting weights, and practicing as much as the kid making 2 million dollars. And they’re doing it for free. I have zero idea how you split up the money. Effing NCAA really screwed things up by fighting Ed Bannon lawsuit. The final nail in the coffin was allowing player transfers without sitting a year.
Do have one last idea. Could you require kids to sign a contract for 3/4 years when they accept scholarship? That’s not going to stop the high school kids from huge NIL deals to play for certain teams. But it would stop teams like USC from coming in and taking a kid like Addison. Grasping at straws with the idea. But it’s better than the road we are headed.
That was Gene Smith and he is still their AD, he is not a former.
No, the government should not be involved in setting up rules for high school athletes going to college and NIL money. Way, way, way x 1000 more important things they should be focusing on.
Government should only be involved to make sure that all this NIL money is following proper tax codes as that is the only way it touches the government.
Government should only be involved to make sure that all this NIL money is following proper tax codes as that is the only way it touches the government.
Hows about we get Congress fully involved in college sports and leave everything else the hell alone? Could solve a lot of problems 🤷🏽
The most frightening words in America are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help.: Ronald Reagan
Just stop with the whole government screws things up, because it just isn't true. Such a sentiment is an overtly simplistic take, many worse anecdotes could be made about business.
What is true, is that government doesn't build in profit to projects like businesses do. Businesses then pervert the entire system when they can get a government contract and corrupt everything along the way.
Government loses money on projects unlike businesses because they "DO NOT BUILD IN PROFIT" for shareholders, they operate things at their cost. which businesses don't. Which is the margin that citizens then fund the the profit difference. The government, by in large part, operate departments for the benefit of citizens not for the benefit of shareholders trying to make profits doing nothing.
Make Amazon deliver the mail while they are out and about the streets and lets see how much profit they make or how much a stamp goes up to. Look at what has has happened to the PA turnpike since they turned it over to a private company to maintain, service and quality has gone down, while the cost to use has grown dramatically......Because they need to build in their 27% profit that was previously not necessary.
Government projects get bloated by greedy businesses not the other way around. The real corruption is in getting the winning bid......and don't think the businesses haven't factored in the "bloat" for themselves in their bids.
If the government does an in house project for $100 you get $100 of labor and materials
If the private business contacts the job for $100 you get $65 of labor and materials and $35 of business profit.
Gigantic difference.
You ever want to see a business or person go from rags to riches find one who got their first government contract......and that's straight truth.
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That’s a whole lot of nonsense.
The real nonsense in quoting and believing politicians themselves. But you go on with the infinite wisdom of Obama and Reagan or whoever. Comical.....unless, of course, it aligns with with one's anger and hate.
🙄🙄🙄 I didn’t mention a specific politician . Person works for the government, leaves , goes and works in private industry lobbying the government.
Keep them out of it.
Ummmmmmmm, the lobbyists work for businesses and trade organizations associated with businesses. You've unfortunately got it all wrong. Sorry but Tucker and Anderson aren't a great source of info for this topic.
Government has never been the problem but businesses have a huge interest in having you believe it is so they can continue to fleece it.
The picture isn't quite that rosy on the government side. Several years ago, under the reinventing government program there was a review of how the government operated and if there were better, less expensive ways to do it. While there were certainly areas where the government did well, there were many areas where the government was inefficient, wasteful, and, in many cases, operating in the interests of the people in the government, not the public. Having gone through it as a USG employee, the process was painful and met a lot of resistance, but it was badly needed (and needed, again.) The government is notoriously good at creating self-licking ice cream cones that are incredibly hard to dismantle once it's realized that they consume significant resources without adding any value. Those who wish to try will come away with not a few battle scars for their efforts. (I have 30+ years worth.) The same government that can't write or manage contracts to make sure the contractors are providing good value to the taxpayers can't monitor or control itself to do the same. Beyond that, too often people in government miss the objective - getting the best results and value for the taxpayer dollar. Quite the contrary, the focus is often meeting metrics that have little to no relationship with whether or anything was actually accomplished. A common one and my personal favorite: the program was successful because it executed its budget (spent all the money it was given). Sorry, government contracts don't get bloated because of "greedy businesses" they get bloated because the people in the government didn't do their jobs and hold the people THEY hired to do the job accountable to execution and budget.
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Getting Nancy Pelosi (Methuselah) and (cryin) Chuck Shumer involved? If you think college football is
screwed up now........
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Says the guy who obviously has no idea that our government is $30,000,000,000,000 in debt.
BTW, I think you should change the word "citizens" in that last sentence to "special interests".
Is there any reason why college athletes have to be students too? Just have the schools sponsor teams. The athletes can be student or not if they want. But if they do, they get held to the same standard as everyone else. If they want to be part time students because they're putting so much time into football then fine. If they don't want to be students at all then that's fine too.
I said this years ago, though I doubt many here will agree with me.
I believe student athletes should:
a) apply and get into their school of choice based on academics
b) matriculate
c) try out for whatever team on which they hope to play
d) if he or she makes the team, then and only then, should they be offered an athletic scholarship.
Your right, I tried to give the general abridged version but by in large part most of the problems with government are that businesses fleece it, which is partly the fault of shoddy oversight but you shouldn't have to look over your contractors shoulders to see if he's getting in your safety deposit box and wife's underwear drawer because you hired him to remodel your master suite.
The people getting the contracts from the government are the bigger problem than the government itself. I know people making millions of dollars making a bullshit widget that should be a fraction of the price they are selling it for in the back of a industrial park in rural Pennsylvania.....FACT!
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Can we use paragraphs? I'm sure there is useful info in there somewhere but many will not read a page of words with no white space.
Not really. The only thing not to trust in the government are the people. The government is inherently good. It's your people and their wild fantasyland extremes that screw everything up. The government is just a vehicle, this isn't hard to understand, except for people with comprehension problems. Stop putting up signs in your yard for hateful, decisive people to run it and things would be pretty good. Government programs built this country proper, its the people who fleeced it at every opportunity that gave it a false stigma. It takes a little depth to understand this, so I understand why that could be a problem.
