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Should the big ten move back to 8 conference games?

Ranger Dan

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it seems like the SEC and the ACC are benefiting from playing 8 conference games, while the other three power five conferences have all been left out of the playoffs for at least one season. Having conference games would allow for a consistent 4 home conference games per year and and four OOC games to schedule as they see fit. My preference then would be to schedule two P5 OOC games (one home and one away) and two pay for play G5 home games. Would 7 home games every year be enough to satisfy Penn State’s need for revenue? What is the downside for the big Ten?
 
Yes...the only two conferences that haven’t been left out of the CFP are also the only two conferences that play 8 conference games.
 
it seems like the SEC and the ACC are benefiting from playing 8 conference games, while the other three power five conferences have all been left out of the playoffs for at least one season. Having conference games would allow for a consistent 4 home conference games per year and and four OOC games to schedule as they see fit. My preference then would be to schedule two P5 OOC games (one home and one away) and two pay for play G5 home games. Would 7 home games every year be enough to satisfy Penn State’s need for revenue? What is the downside for the big Ten?
Only if you want to see more Delaware’s, Villanova’s, Idaho’s, Nevada’s, etc.
 
As I said, there would be two OOC P5 opponents, so it would be the same number of P5 opponents.

The real reason the ACC hasn't been left out is that they haven't had a 2 loss champion. That has nothing to do with 9 conference games. At least very little. I don't know why you think teams would agree to playing another P5 team or how that even changes things.
 
For us specifically, it eliminates a crossover game. This year, our record is probably the same, perhaps worse, if we had a top 25 ish team on the schedule OOC as some desire. It's irrelevant. For those who dislike week 11 SEC scheduled powder puffs, lobby the conference to start conference play sooner and move an OOC game into this spot. We are the big school(s). We control when the teams visit, no?
 
The real reason the ACC hasn't been left out is that they haven't had a 2 loss champion. That has nothing to do with 9 conference games. At least very little. I don't know why you think teams would agree to playing another P5 team or how that even changes things.

Exactly. Undefeated FSU and Clemson or 1-loss Clemson.
 
The real reason the ACC hasn't been left out is that they haven't had a 2 loss champion. That has nothing to do with 9 conference games. At least very little. I don't know why you think teams would agree to playing another P5 team or how that even changes things.
And they haven’t had a two loss champion because they only play 8 conference games.
 
And they haven’t had a two loss champion because they only play 8 conference games.

We were a two loss champion which had nothing to do with the 9 game conference schedule. We lost to Pitt keeping us out. We play Michigan regardless of an 8 or 9 game conference schedule.

Clemson would be better off playing 12 ACC games if we're being honest
 
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We were a two loss champion which had nothing to do with the 9 game conference schedule. We lost to Pitt keeping us out. We play Michigan regardless of an 8 or 9 game conference schedule.

Clemson would be better off playing 12 ACC games if we're being honest
Conference games are still more difficult than most OOC games, so if the ACC teams had to play another conference game, they would be more likely to have a two loss champion.
 
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Fewer conference home games, particularly with two P5 home-and-home scheduled.

Actually it’d be the same. 7 home and 5 away.
People claim there would be less games for networks but there would be the same number or more. The reason the btn/espn pay more for the extra conference game is it isn’t a payday Game. If everyone in conference did 2 p5 schools even if 1 was an Oregon state type the revenue would be a wash.
 
And they haven’t had a two loss champion because they only play 8 conference games.
That’s not accurate. And both FSU and Clemson have standing dates with P5 OOC rivals.
 
Conference games are still more difficult than most OOC games, so if the ACC teams had to play another conference game, they would be more likely to have a two loss champion.
Not in Clemson’s and FSU’s cases. USCe and Florida are solid OOC competition.
 
Personally, I would just like to see an even number of conference games. It could be 8, 10, or 12 for all I care. When there is an odd number of conference games, it allows for more scheduling shenanigans by the BIG conference. They already warp the schedule with bye weeks and back to back tough road games. Don’t give them yet another tool in their toolbox to try to dictate outcomes. A team that has only 4 conference road games has too much of an advantage over a team that has to play 5 conference road games.
 
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Add Georgia Tech to that list - UGA is no cupcake.

GTech only has to play 9 P-5 schools. We and most of the rest of the Big Ten play at least 10.

If it was up to me, I would make ALL Conferences play AT LEAST 9 Conference games. In fact, I wouldn't have any problem with 10.
 
GTech only has to play 9 P-5 schools. We and most of the rest of the Big Ten play at least 10.

If it was up to me, I would make ALL Conferences play AT LEAST 9 Conference games. In fact, I wouldn't have any problem with 10.
Or all of them play 8...whatever way they go, it should be consistent across all conferences.
 
Sec and acc needs to play same amount of conference games. There must be the same guideline for getting in playoff or suffer the consequences. For Alabama not to play the tough eastern teams is ridiculous year in and year out. Georgia could have two losses before the champ game who knows.
 
it seems like the SEC and the ACC are benefiting from playing 8 conference games, while the other three power five conferences have all been left out of the playoffs for at least one season. Having conference games would allow for a consistent 4 home conference games per year and and four OOC games to schedule as they see fit. My preference then would be to schedule two P5 OOC games (one home and one away) and two pay for play G5 home games. Would 7 home games every year be enough to satisfy Penn State’s need for revenue? What is the downside for the big Ten?


I would go to 8 only if -0- was out of the question.;)
 
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Until/Unless FBS is split into 2 levels we're always going to have the problem with scheduling. The entire set up is antiquated. The problem is fans still support it by attending horrible home games and traveling to meaningless bowl games. That has to stop first.
 
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8 games would only work if we boot Rutgers and Maryland. That would be a win-win for the B1G .:)
 
The best way to reduce or eliminate horrible OOC games is to eliminate the incentives, i.e., to have a playoff of conference champions. This would change the purpose of the OOC schedule.

The importance of conference games should come down to win or lose, without style points. There should be no selection committee to decide "best," "most worthy," "playoff seating," or whatever else can be thought up to make the process subjective.

There should be eight conferences, based on geography, and a playoff of eight teams. Teams not in a conference do not get an opportunity to be considered "national champion" of the division. The number of games should be an even number, and the size of the division should be 11X8=88 teams. Smaller schools would be relegated to a lower division.

One or two preseason games would be played to preserve certain traditional matches but these would be nothing more than exhibition games to prepare for the season. This would, for example, provide schools with a no-penalty means to decide a starting quarterback, much as the NFL uses these games to come up with a final roster. Some OOC games might be "important," like Pitt-PSU and its impact on recruiting.

Schools would have flexibility with their OOC scheduling, to include a bye week after the preseason, if desired. They can decide on timing and difficulty -- whatever they think is best for season preparation and/or other benefits to the school. [Most coaches probably would not consider a cupcake game would help prepare their team.]

Playoff seating would be based on conference record, with predetermined rules to deal with ties, but no subjectivity. Same would be true in deciding conference champions. The lopsidedness in the final score, in any game, should not be a factor. That's the best way to ensure balance in competition and minimize bias at any level, including officiating.
 
I’d love to see 8 conference games again. That way we’d see two P5 OOC games, potentially one every year against someone like Pitt, and another against a major P5 school. The 9 game conference schedule limits the OOC scheduling too much, in my opinion.
 
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I’d love to see 8 conference games again. That way we’d see two P5 OOC games, potentially one every year against someone like Pitt, and another against a major P5 school. The 9 game conference schedule limits the OOC scheduling too much, in my opinion.
Not playing Pitt would be reason enough to play a nine game season.
 
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