So... better to win NIT or go out in the 32 at NCAA?

[AWS1022]

Dread is #151 on 247. Yawn. And irrelevant to the the point about NCAA tourney v. NIT, since he committed well before PSU didn't make the NCAA tourney.

Decent recruits are also aware of the CIT. Does anyone give a rip who wins that? Are recruits more excited about a CIT win than an NCAA tourney berth, or even an NIT berth?

I think you over estimate the value of getting to the NCAA tournament for recruits. Teams that make it consistently do have an advantage, but appearances once in a while obviously don’t carry that much weight or teams wouldn’t make it one year then not make it again for years because their recruiting was take such a huge boost. That doesn’t happen. Outside of the basketball power houses, I don’t think a tournament appearance really carries that much weight.

 

[AWS1022]

If only you were truthful.

So I’m lying about Oklahoma and Syracuse making the tournament?

 

[SimplyComplicated]

So I’m lying about Oklahoma and Syracuse making the tournament?

Are you playing dumb ... or not playing?

 

[GregInPitt]

Dread is #151 on 247. Yawn. And irrelevant to the the point about NCAA tourney v. NIT, since he committed well before PSU didn't make the NCAA tourney.

Decent recruits are also aware of the CIT. Does anyone give a rip who wins that? Are recruits more excited about a CIT win than an NCAA tourney berth, or even an NIT berth?

You believe every team in the NCAA is made up of higher rated recruits than Dread?

Yawn.............................

Can't make a point about the NIT, so you move on to the CIT?

Double Yawn.................

Fortunately, recruits are much better informed than you are.
The National Invitation Tournament (NIT) is the oldest tournament in college basketball. The NIT was started in 1938. It was the first national postseason collegiate tournament to be played in the country.

You are the one that needs to get in the game. The thread is about potential benefit from the 5 games PSU got to play, and win, in the NIT and there is considerable benefit to PSU's program. Some that that benefit is because PSU in not Duke, not UNC, not KU. The NIT would not benefit those teams. It has benefited, and will continue to benefit PSU BB.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

People are really trying to sell recruits caring about the NIT...wow

 

[AWS1022]

Are you playing dumb ... or not playing?

One of us is being dumb and it’s not me.

 

[BobPSU92]

Please take this opportunity to use the Ignore feature.

 

[58psu77]

Agreed.. ton of parity and not much to differentiate the teams muddling around the bubble. It's just too bad it took until March for us to differentiate ourselves from all those other teams on the bubble. Our non-con has to get teams like we played in the NIT on it. Maybe the NIT championship and the team's potential gets us the chance to play in some of those bigger pre-season tournaments and maybe some neutral site games. There can't be a long list of home cream puff games to start. It doesn't get the team ready for conference season and doesn't help the resume.

We scheduled ourselves out of consideration with that OOC list of cream puffs.

 

[58psu77]

Since Friday’s day-after coverage (which wasn't all that significant ) can anyone link serious coverage/mention of NIT as Final Four weekend began? Hell there’s more talk of Women’s Final Four than NIT.
Use the good experience and get into the real post season tourney next year.

 

[johnmpsu]

"Playing in friggin Madison Square Garden. The all time most famous indoor venue in history." When did MSG get this recognition and from whom (ESPN)? Always favored the Garden, home of the G.O.A.T. in Boston - The Celtics.

The Boston Garden is a great venue and has a great Basketball history and some pretty good Hockey teams but as a Venue, MSG has held many more famous and historical events. If judged purely on Basketball obviously the Boston Garden comes out ahead but if you look at the totality of events, I think it's fair to put MSG ahead of it.

 

[psute]

"Playing in friggin Madison Square Garden. The all time most famous indoor venue in history." When did MSG get this recognition and from whom (ESPN)? Always favored the Garden, home of the G.O.A.T. in Boston - The Celtics.

Not sure what world you live in, but when people say "The Garden" it ain't in Boston...

 

[SimplyComplicated]

Since Friday’s day-after coverage (which wasn't all that significant ) can anyone link serious coverage/mention of NIT as Final Four weekend began? Hell there’s more talk of Women’s Final Four than NIT.
Use the good experience and get into the real post season tourney next year.

You had to actually search for it on espn.com ... it wasn't on the front page, or the front NCAAM page.

Northern Colorado (CIT Champs) and PSU (NIT Champs) ... and nobody cares, except certain diehard sports fans of Northern Colorado and PSU.

 

[psuro]

You had to actually search for it on espn.com ... it wasn't on the front page, or the front NCAAM page.

Northern Colorado (CIT Champs) and PSU (NIT Champs) ... and nobody cares, except certain diehard sports fans of Northern Colorado and PSU.

And since this is a PSU board then it stands to reason that we care.

Stop whining. The kids played their hearts out and won the championship of the tournament they were invited to. Be happy for the squad.

 

[SimplyComplicated]

And since this is a PSU board then it stands to reason that we care.

Stop whining. The kids played their hearts out and won the championship of the tournament they were invited to. Be happy for the squad.

There's no whining, except, perhaps, by those who want to turn the NIT championship into something that's better than getting an at-large bid in the NCAA.

And given that the topic of the thread was NOT whether certain PSU fans on a message board care about the NIT championship, but instead, whether an NIT championship was better for the program than a Round of 32 appearance in the NCAA tourney, your response wasn't meaningful.

 

[psuro]

There's no whining, except, perhaps, by those who want to turn the NIT championship into something that's better than getting an at-large bid in the NCAA.

And given that the topic of the thread was NOT whether certain PSU fans on a message board care about the NIT championship, but instead, whether an NIT championship was better for the program than a Round of 32 appearance in the NCAA tourney, your response wasn't meaningful.

It was meaningful enough for you to respond to it.

Quit whining.

 

[SimplyComplicated]

It was meaningful enough for you to respond to it.

Quit whining.

You forgot "la la la la I'm not listening la la la" and "no give backs ... infinity" to cap off your childishness.

Have a day.

 

[WDLion]

You forgot "la la la la I'm not listening la la la" and "no give backs ... infinity" to cap off your childishness.

Have a day.

Simply Childishness.

 

[SimplyComplicated]

You believe every team in the NCAA is made up of higher rated recruits than Dread?

Yawn.............................

Can't make a point about the NIT, so you move on to the CIT?

Double Yawn.................

Fortunately, recruits are much better informed than you are.
The National Invitation Tournament (NIT) is the oldest tournament in college basketball. The NIT was started in 1938. It was the first national postseason collegiate tournament to be played in the country.

You are the one that needs to get in the game. The thread is about potential benefit from the 5 games PSU got to play, and win, in the NIT and there is considerable benefit to PSU's program. Some that that benefit is because PSU in not Duke, not UNC, not KU. The NIT would not benefit those teams. It has benefited, and will continue to benefit PSU BB.

What are you talking about? It's all nonsense. Not even a single attempt at substantively rebutting anything I said. None of it touches a single point I've made. Whether other tourney teams have lesser recruits than Dread is completely irrelevant to what was stated. You couldn't rebut the issue re the CIT. And that the NIT is old and was once meaningful, but no longer has any significance isn't helping your cause.

The NCAA Tourney would benefit PSU far more than the NIT did. That the PSU program was struggling so much that an NIT appearance, and championship, would help it, simply speaks to the recent (and historic) depths of the program ... it sheds no light on the NCAA v. NIT debate being held.

 

[GregInPitt]

What are you talking about? It's all nonsense. Not even a single attempt at substantively rebutting anything I said. None of it touches a single point I've made. Whether other tourney teams have lesser recruits than Dread is completely irrelevant to what was stated. You couldn't rebut the issue re the CIT. And that the NIT is old and was once meaningful, but no longer has any significance isn't helping your cause.

The NCAA Tourney would benefit PSU far more than the NIT did. That the PSU program was struggling so much that an NIT appearance, and championship, would help it, simply speaks to the recent (and historic) depths of the program ... it sheds no light on the NCAA v. NIT debate being held.

You just may have a comprehension issue. Comparing the NIT to the CIT is buffoonery.

A one and done in the NCAA would not benefit PSU more than the 5 games they played and won in the NIT as has been explained in detail in this thread. The discussion is about PSU. Where PSU is now. We all know the details and history. Read the thread, and digest it.

Happy Easter!!!

 

[SimplyComplicated]

You just may have a comprehension issue. Comparing the NIT to the CIT is buffoonery.

A one and done in the NCAA would not benefit PSU more than the 5 games they played and won in the NIT as has been explained in detail in this thread. The discussion is about PSU. Where PSU is now. We all know the details and history. Read the thread, and digest it.

Happy Easter!!!

Comparing the NIT to the NCAA is buffoonery. Analogies just aren't your thing, and that's OK.

Of course PSU would be better off with a 2-and-done (as was the thread topic) in the NCAA, than an NIT championship. And a 1-and-done. For where PSU is now. For where ANY program is now, regardless of their circumstances, making an NCAA tourney appearance = better than winning the NIT.

 

[GregInPitt]

Comparing the NIT to the NCAA is buffoonery. Analogies just aren't your thing, and that's OK.

Of course PSU would be better off with a 2-and-done (as was the thread topic) in the NCAA, than an NIT championship. And a 1-and-done. For where PSU is now. For where ANY program is now, regardless of their circumstances, making an NCAA tourney appearance = better than winning the NIT.

The point is not comparing the overall NCAA to the NIT. The topic of the thread is the benefit of a one and done in the NCAA versus the actual NIT experience that PSU experienced. You are the one that somehow branched out to comparing the NIT to the CIT. And that is buffoonery.

Just because it is your believe that a one and done in the NCAA is better than winning the NIT does not make it so.

Reading comprehension is just not your thing, and that's OK.

Happy Easter.

 

[SimplyComplicated]

The point is not comparing the overall NCAA to the NIT. The topic of the thread is the benefit of a one and done in the NCAA versus the actual NIT experience that PSU experienced. You are the one that somehow branched out to comparing the NIT to the CIT. And that is buffoonery.

I compared winning the CIT to making the NIT. And that is equivalent to the disparity between making the NCAA Tourney and winning the NIT.

Just because it is your believe that a one and done in the NCAA is better than winning the NIT does not make it so.

It's not my believe ... it's my belief. Just as it's your belief that winning a bunch of games in an also-ran tourney is better for the program than making the only tournament that matters.

Reading comprehension is just not your thing, and that's OK.

Happy Easter.

Thinking and writing are just not your things, and that's OK.

 

[GregInPitt]

I compared winning the CIT to making the NIT. And that is equivalent to the disparity between making the NCAA Tourney and winning the NIT.



It's not my believe ... it's my belief. Just as it's your belief that winning a bunch of games in an also-ran tourney is better for the program than making the only tournament that matters.



Thinking and writing are just not your things, and that's OK.

Doesn't really matter what the irrelevant point regarding the CIT you were attempting to make. That's not the topic of this thread, and was not the topic of my post your were replying to.

Nice catch on the grammar check. If I need a low cost grammar checker, I'll be sure to look you up.

Responding to an actual topic is not your thing, and that's OK.

Happy Easter!!!

 

[blion72]

We played better teams in the NIT than many of the NCAA tournament teams did.

totally agree with that. how many of the 68 ncaa field could have won the NIT? maybe 20 at most, and we did that without Watkins. the ncaa gets the press, so from PR standpoint it trumps the nit. however, since we went away from a meritocracy in the ncaa, the nit is alot closer.

 

[LDandy]

Its amazing how many of our own fans seem to relish the opportunity to dump on a nice accomplishment by our basketball team. Sure if a few things went differently earlier this season we would have made the tournament, but they didn't and as a result the team got left out.

Following this disappointment, it wouldn't have been shocking to see our team get bounced early from The NIT. Temple really wanted to send a message on our home floor in game 1. However the team hung together and played some of the best basketball that they have all year. They beat 5 solid opponents from 5 different conferences. Two wins coming on the road. For some "fans" that doesn't matter, but I enjoyed the entire run and was filled with a sense of pride as our guys cut down the nets. I hope for bigger things next season.

 

[SimplyComplicated]

Doesn't really matter what the irrelevant point regarding the CIT you were attempting to make. That's not the topic of this thread, and was not the topic of my post your were replying to.

Nice catch on the grammar check. If I need a low cost grammar checker, I'll be sure to look you up.

Responding to an actual topic is not your thing, and that's OK.

Happy Easter!!!

Here’s your award for jumping in and attacking someone without using any substance, and in an off-topic manner.

Now, if there’s anyone literate who can actually debate on the merits, Greg’s going to go lie down. He’s done all he can. He’s the CIT champ of posting.

 

[Op2]

In terms of preparing a team for next season a long NIT run is better than a one and done in the NCAA (assuming the team isn't senior laden) but in terms of publicity I would think just making the NCAA tournament is way better than anything in the NIT, including winning the title.

Before this year when PSU was in it when is the last time any of you watched an NIT game? Fans of the teams in the NIT aside, I bet most sports fans don't even know the NIT happened. I mean, if you asked them "Was there an NIT this year?" they'd probably say "Yeah, I assume so," but if you asked them who was in it and who was winning and losing the games they'd have no idea.

 

[GregInPitt]

Here’s your award for jumping in and attacking someone without using any substance, and in an off-topic manner.

Now, if there’s anyone literate who can actually debate on the merits, Greg’s going to go lie down. He’s done all he can. He’s the CIT champ of posting.

No, your the CIT champ of failing to explain why you hijacked a cordial discussion that was about the merits of winning the NIT versus going out early in the NCAA with your babble about the CIT and other unrelated condescending comments.

And that's OK!!!

Since about the only thing we will agree on is that it is time to move on to other topics.

Happy Easter!

 

[GregInPitt]

Here’s your award for jumping in and attacking someone without using any substance, and in an off-topic manner.

Now, if there’s anyone literate who can actually debate on the merits, Greg’s going to go lie down. He’s done all he can. He’s the CIT champ of posting.

Here's your award for jumping in and posting condescending comments about nothing and then acting like you are not the one that displayed bad manners.

Now if there is anyone that wants to get to the topic without interjecting babble about the CIT, have at it. This topic was Simply too Complicated for SimplyComplicated.

But that's OK.

 

[BobPSU92]

Please take this opportunity to use the Ignore feature.