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So when Freeh issues an unhinged rant in a press release....

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....will his bizarre, inflammatory rant spewed from his law firm affect the current civil cases?
Discuss.


The Legal Intelligencer wrote this on March 27:

Former Penn State president Graham Spanier was acquitted of the two most serious charges he faced over allegations that he harbored serial child molester Jerry Sandusky, but the guilty verdict on a misdemeanor child endangerment charge will likely kill any chances of recovery in civil suits over fallout from the Sandusky scandal, according to attorneys.

On March 24, a Dauphin County jury found Spanier guilty on the misdemeanor for failing to properly act in the face of reports that Sandusky had molested a child, but also acquitted him of a felony count of child endangerment and a related conspiracy charge. The misdemeanor conviction is punishable by a maximum of five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

The conviction, according to civil attorneys, is at least in part a validation of the controversial report written by Louis Freeh, often referred to as the "Freeh report," that blamed Spanier and other Penn State officials for failing to stop Sandusky, who in 2012 was found guilty of 45 out of 48 charges related to sexual abuse of children.

The report outlined what Freeh alleged were the failures of the organization to respond to reports of child sexual abuse, and, since being released in July 2012, the document has been central to at least three high-profile civil suits filed in connection to the Sandusky scandal.

Those suits—Spanier v. Freeh, Spanier v. Penn State and Paterno v. National Collegiate Athletic Association—allege either defamation directly from the Freeh report, or that the defendant organizations improperly disseminated or relied on those conclusions.

But in light of the recent conviction, those claims might all be in peril, said Bochetto & Lentz attorney George Bochetto, who focuses in part on defamation lawsuits.

"The gist or the sting of [the Freeh report] statement has now been borne out by a jury in a criminal trial beyond a reasonable doubt. That's going to significantly hinder Spanier's ability to prevail in a defamation suit," Bochetto said. "There's going to be ramifications in the Paterno case, no question about it. The jury's verdict, at least in some respect, bears out the thrust of the Freeh report that there was an institutional failure."

Bochetto noted that, because of Spanier's public position, he faces a heightened burden when it comes to prevailing in a defamation case, and so even if the criminal conviction is ultimately overturned by an appellate court, the verdict will still be a major hurdle for Spanier in the civil case.

"Regardless of whether it is overturned, it is helpful to the defense because the standard is not falsity, it's knowing falsity," Bochetto said. "It loses its knowing, or outrageous falsity feature."

Kline & Specter attorney Thomas R. Kline agreed.

"It's extraordinarily significant. He was criminally convicted of the very thing which he alleged in his lawsuit was defamatory," Kline said. "In libel suits, truth is a defense."

Kline represented victims of Sandusky in civil suits against Penn State, and one of the victims Kline represented was an unnamed witness at Spanier's criminal trial. That witness said he was molested by Sandusky after Spanier and others failed to act on a report in 2001 that Sandusky had showered with a young boy on campus.

Admissibility of Criminal Findings
Whether or not the guilty finding will be admitted into the civil suits has yet to be determined, given how recent the verdict is. However, according to attorneys, acquittals are usually not allowed to come into civil suits due to the differences in being "not guilty" versus "innocent," but criminal convictions are often admissible and weighty evidence for juries.

However, Pittsburgh civil attorney John Gismondi noted that the admissibility is not always so clear, and attorneys may want to drill down into exactly how each element of the criminal conviction relates to the specific civil claims.

"For example, one of the big debates [in the Spanier case] was whether or not [he knew the 2001 shower] incident was horseplay, or sexual. I'm not sure if that misdemeanor conviction would involve a finding one way or the other on that," Gismondi said. "So it depends on what it is you're trying to use the conviction for."

Montgomery McCracken Walker & Rhoads attorney Jeremy Mishkin, who often represents defendants in complex civil suits, took that notion one step further, and said that, given the fact that Spanier was acquitted and found guilty on very similar charges, the argument could be made that no clear connections could be drawn.

"I could almost see a judge saying we can't speculate about what a jury did and why," Mishkin said. "I can imagine a judge saying, 'I'm not going to allow any of that into evidence.'"

The argument, however, would require some serious "flyspecking by some very smart lawyers," he said.

Dechert attorney Robert C. Heim, who is representing Freeh, said Spanier's civil suit against Freeh was "always a weak case."

"Now it's gotten considerably weaker," he said. "We're looking at the legal consequences and haven't come to a conclusion at this point."

Spanier's attorney, Elizabeth Locke of Clare Locke, as well as a spokeswoman for Penn State, the communications office for the National Collegiate Athletic Association and Thomas Weber of Goldberg Katzman, who is representing the Paterno plaintiffs, did not return messages seeking comment.

I fixed his press release to better reflect what actually went on at trial:



 
Former Penn State president Graham Spanier was acquitted of the two most serious charges he faced over allegations that he harbored serial child molester Jerry Sandusky, but the guilty verdict on a misdemeanor child endangerment charge will likely kill any chances of recovery in civil suits over fallout from the Sandusky scandal, according to attorneys.

No kidding. Why do you think the University, the NCAA and Freeh were so desperate to get a conviction (any conviction, on any charge) in the criminal case against Spanier?
 
Attorney Kline represented some of the victims of JS so his opinion isn't worth a nickel because it is to his benefit if GS's suit fails. The reason a guilty verdict came about was not because of the merits but because the jury was tainted by all of the BS that Freeh put out in the public that was false.

When the appeal works out in GS's favor then let us see what happens. Freeh was wrong on Joe, he was wrong on the conspiracy, we was wrong on the football thing, we was wrong on so many things that everybody who isn't looking closely is tainted by what he said. I hope his rant will bite him where the sun don't shine.

The release of the grand jury presentment doc that we now have confirmed was done on purpose will also come and bite him. He was probably aware and he did not say anything because it did not fit the lying narrative that he built.
 
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What happened to that fvckers eye?
Came from driving his car into a tree?

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Attorney Kline represented some of the victims of JS so his opinion isn't worth a nickel because it is to his benefit if GS's suit fails. The reason a guilty verdict came about was not because of the merits but because the jury was tainted by all of the BS that Freeh put out in the public that was false.

When the appeal works out in GS's favor then let us see what happens. Freeh was wrong on Joe, he was wrong on the conspiracy, we was wrong on the football thing, we was wrong on so many things that everybody who isn't looking closely is tainted by what he said. I hope his rant will bite him where the sun don't shine.

The leas of the grand jury doc that we now have confirmed was done on purpose will also come and bite him. He was probably aware and he did not say anything because it did not fit the lying narrative that he built.
Tom Kline's opinion isn't worth a nickel anyway. He is a pompous jacka$$, which is why he feels no compunction about being quoted in a Legal Intelligencer article concerning areas of the law in which he has no particular experience. He is a plantiffs lawyer who has made his fortune handling, primarily, medical malpractice, products liability and other catastrophic injury cases in the friendly confines of Philadelphia county and its environs.
 
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It's really too bad he was drunk as a skunk during his car crash... Wouldn't have survived it any other way!
 
Very odd accident. Noon on a rural highway in Vermont. No toxicology tests taken at the hospital (we were told) Ya..right.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ctor-Sen-Leahy-details-Louis-Freeh-crash.html

from the UK Daily Mail:
Former FBI Director Louis Freeh nearly died last summer when he was involved in a car crash driving near his summer home in Barnard, Vermont.

Current FBI director James Comey and Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy spoke about the accident for the first time last week, during an appearance at Chaplain College.

They say 64-year-old Freeh severed an artery in one of his legs and would have bled to death in just 60 seconds if it weren't for the quick response from paramedics and an FBI agent on the scene.

note the reader comments, including this:
garygilmoorre4u, manchester, United Kingdom, 1 year ago
i was at the scene and called the cops. he was DRUNK but apparently they protected him and refused to charge him with DUI. a regular citizen would have landed in jail and in debt but apparently he is to important to be held accountable

im the person who called police, he was clearly inebriatedand smelled of alcohol, but police reports and this story make no mention of this

***THE STORY OF A COVERUP -- HOW IRONIC
 
im the person who called police, he was clearly inebriatedand smelled of alcohol, but police reports and this story make no mention of this

Ha! Which I can "reasonably conclude" happened, given this unhinged rant Freeh felt compelled to issue from his law firm. Wouldn't that be something - Penn State paid $8.3 MILLION for a report conducted by a high functioning closet alcoholic.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ctor-Sen-Leahy-details-Louis-Freeh-crash.html

from the UK Daily Mail:
Former FBI Director Louis Freeh nearly died last summer when he was involved in a car crash driving near his summer home in Barnard, Vermont.

Current FBI director James Comey and Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy spoke about the accident for the first time last week, during an appearance at Chaplain College.

They say 64-year-old Freeh severed an artery in one of his legs and would have bled to death in just 60 seconds if it weren't for the quick response from paramedics and an FBI agent on the scene.

note the reader comments, including this:
garygilmoorre4u, manchester, United Kingdom, 1 year ago
i was at the scene and called the cops. he was DRUNK but apparently they protected him and refused to charge him with DUI. a regular citizen would have landed in jail and in debt but apparently he is to important to be held accountable

im the person who called police, he was clearly inebriatedand smelled of alcohol, but police reports and this story make no mention of this

***THE STORY OF A COVERUP -- HOW IRONIC
Ain't karma a bitch king louie?!??
 
The sad truth is the battle is over and we lost! It sucks. Decent men who made some poor judgment calls are now labeled for life as child sex abuse enablers. The press simply says all three found guilty. The story is true as we told you. Time to put it to bed. Spanier has no shot against Freeh and the Paterno family is probably better off calling it a day against the NCAA. Don't see how they win any case and only give the press another round of clicks as they take more shots at him.

There will never be a day PSU's reputation is restored and Paterno and his family will never have their good name back in the eyes of the ignorant public.

What bothers me more than anything else is nothing has changed for PA youth. No lessons were learned, no adjustments were made to the system so the same agencies are in charge and the blame has been placed at PSU feet. If the citizens of this commonwealth truly cared about CSA they would demand answers from the people who had authority and training identifying individuals who can bring harm to youth for their failures. Joe's last wish was that perhaps something good would come of all this... It didn't happen. I've thrown in the towel on the whole thing, the bad guys won.

The knowledge of how Sandusky was handled in 1998 no doubt influenced the behavior of C/S/S in 2001. Had the state just did its job then none of this would likely have occurred.
 
What happened to that fvckers eye?


Joe what's your thoughts now that the big 3 have been convicted? Do you see things differently or do you feel staff probably had knowledge of what was going on with JS? I know you follow this stuff.
 
Here is the recipe:

1) have highly paid a$$hole spew false allegations all over national media--> taints all juries

2) blackmail 2 colleagues into guilty misdemeanor pleas to further taint juries

3) obtain weak guilty verdict from tainted jury

4) publicly crow that highly paid a$$hole was right to begin with.

Truth buried. Witch hunt satisfied.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ctor-Sen-Leahy-details-Louis-Freeh-crash.html

from the UK Daily Mail:
Former FBI Director Louis Freeh nearly died last summer when he was involved in a car crash driving near his summer home in Barnard, Vermont.

Current FBI director James Comey and Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy spoke about the accident for the first time last week, during an appearance at Chaplain College.

They say 64-year-old Freeh severed an artery in one of his legs and would have bled to death in just 60 seconds if it weren't for the quick response from paramedics and an FBI agent on the scene.

note the reader comments, including this:
garygilmoorre4u, manchester, United Kingdom, 1 year ago
i was at the scene and called the cops. he was DRUNK but apparently they protected him and refused to charge him with DUI. a regular citizen would have landed in jail and in debt but apparently he is to important to be held accountable

im the person who called police, he was clearly inebriatedand smelled of alcohol, but police reports and this story make no mention of this

***THE STORY OF A COVERUP -- HOW IRONIC
And just happened to be an FBI agent on the scene? Lol...yep, just a coincidence.
 
Joe what's your thoughts now that the big 3 have been convicted? Do you see things differently or do you feel staff probably had knowledge of what was going on with JS? I know you follow this stuff.
No differently. As recently as a few weeks ago I felt that Tim and Gary may have been taking some of the blame away from Graham but clearly Graham was not aware of anything fishy going on so you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Mistakes may have been made but they were honest mistakes and not malfeasance. I also think the individual who testified as 'victim' 5 was lying. JZ has proved that many times over. It's a sham of our justice system that these 3 fine men are now convicted of enabling a pedophile. That stain must be horrific to carry around for the rest of ones life.
 
It's beyond odd. The probability of having two retired members of the FBI, one the former Director, on the same remote Vermont road at the exact same time is near impossible.
So Louis needed a babysitter, kind of like a crazy old aunt, so he wouldn't wander out in a drunken stupor?

Can't you picture the cell phone conversations?

Agent: Alert, alert....the director has driven off
Command Central: Roger that....do you need assistance?
Agent: Setting off now in search of him
Agent: Director has been spotted! Collided with a tree! Please summon emergency medical personnel
Command Central: Roger that...will notify local authorities also and review the accident reporting protocol with them
Agent: Roger; at the scene, will proceed with lockdown and emergency procedures
 
FWIW - in speaking with an MSU alum who is in MSU sports media and following the Nassar story closely - he said this :

"I do think MSU leadership is handling this correctly so far. You might not like Simon but she is a great leader. And she was one of the first title ix folks here at MSU. She gets it. And she has respect of the Trustees here. This is a big, hairy mess - and I agree with you, much bigger than Penn State."

"I don't see panic. I see calm handling of a PR nightmare."

"The overall narrative coming out of Penn State was so unhelpful. I hope the overall narrative that defines this at MSU is one of regret and sorrow but steadfastness in educating others so that this can be seen and spotted elsewhere."

So for anyone in Old Main that is reading this thread - your continued support of Ken Frazier, Louis Freeh & Tom Corbett's porn-addled gunslingers at the OAG that fueled this bullshit narrative about a cover up at Penn State because of football - that's what another state flagship university community has to think of y'all.

Rodney Erickson, Ken Frazier and Louis Freeh COULD have been those leaders, which would have helped the MSU community in some way, but they failed to do more.
 
FWIW - in speaking with an MSU alum who is in MSU sports media and following the Nassar story closely - he said this :

"I do think MSU leadership is handling this correctly so far. You might not like Simon but she is a great leader. And she was one of the first title ix folks here at MSU. She gets it. And she has respect of the Trustees here. This is a big, hairy mess - and I agree with you, much bigger than Penn State."

"I don't see panic. I see calm handling of a PR nightmare."

"The overall narrative coming out of Penn State was so unhelpful. I hope the overall narrative that defines this at MSU is one of regret and sorrow but steadfastness in educating others so that this can be seen and spotted elsewhere."

Our leadership ( BOT and others) failed miserably...And Erickson has his name on a friggin building...can't make this crap up...

So for anyone in Old Main that is reading this thread - your continued support of Ken Frazier, Louis Freeh & Tom Corbett's porn-addled gunslingers at the OAG that fueled this bullshit narrative about a cover up at Penn State because of football - that's what another state flagship university community has to think of y'all.

Rodney Erickson, Ken Frazier and Louis Freeh COULD have been those leaders, which would have helped the MSU community in some way, but they failed to do more.
 
FWIW - in speaking with an MSU alum who is in MSU sports media and following the Nassar story closely - he said this :

"I do think MSU leadership is handling this correctly so far. You might not like Simon but she is a great leader. And she was one of the first title ix folks here at MSU. She gets it. And she has respect of the Trustees here. This is a big, hairy mess - and I agree with you, much bigger than Penn State."

"I don't see panic. I see calm handling of a PR nightmare."

"The overall narrative coming out of Penn State was so unhelpful. I hope the overall narrative that defines this at MSU is one of regret and sorrow but steadfastness in educating others so that this can be seen and spotted elsewhere."

So for anyone in Old Main that is reading this thread - your continued support of Ken Frazier, Louis Freeh & Tom Corbett's porn-addled gunslingers at the OAG that fueled this bullshit narrative about a cover up at Penn State because of football - that's what another state flagship university community has to think of y'all.

Rodney Erickson, Ken Frazier and Louis Freeh COULD have been those leaders, which would have helped the MSU community in some way, but they failed to do more.


BIG DIFFERENCE between the PSU and MSU situation.....MSU does not have the STATE ITSELF vested in creating a "World Headline" of "Guilt and Criminality" with its State University - MSU does not have "other forces" working to PROMOTE a "Story" they themselves illegally created.

In MSU's situation where REAL evidence is much worse that PSU speculations, MSU is not being abused in the press the way Penn State was. The REAL difference why such a different treatment in the press can only be:

PA politicals had a selfish reason for putting 100% of the Blame for Sandusky on Penn State Football.

WHY???? After 5 years, we can only "suspect" ...we don't know exactly!

In the MSU situation, the State of Michigan's political machine has no reason/way/capacity to pass the buck through a "three years in the making" professionally engineered "story" designed to an establish another entity as the "scapegoat" like what was done to PSU.

So... if you don't think the entire Penn State-Paterno criminality is anything but a carefully constructed political assassination, here's more proof - watch how different things turn out for Michigan State.
 
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....will his bizarre, inflammatory rant spewed from his law firm affect the current civil cases?
Discuss.


The Legal Intelligencer wrote this on March 27:

Former Penn State president Graham Spanier was acquitted of the two most serious charges he faced over allegations that he harbored serial child molester Jerry Sandusky, but the guilty verdict on a misdemeanor child endangerment charge will likely kill any chances of recovery in civil suits over fallout from the Sandusky scandal, according to attorneys.

On March 24, a Dauphin County jury found Spanier guilty on the misdemeanor for failing to properly act in the face of reports that Sandusky had molested a child, but also acquitted him of a felony count of child endangerment and a related conspiracy charge. The misdemeanor conviction is punishable by a maximum of five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

The conviction, according to civil attorneys, is at least in part a validation of the controversial report written by Louis Freeh, often referred to as the "Freeh report," that blamed Spanier and other Penn State officials for failing to stop Sandusky, who in 2012 was found guilty of 45 out of 48 charges related to sexual abuse of children.

The report outlined what Freeh alleged were the failures of the organization to respond to reports of child sexual abuse, and, since being released in July 2012, the document has been central to at least three high-profile civil suits filed in connection to the Sandusky scandal.

Those suits—Spanier v. Freeh, Spanier v. Penn State and Paterno v. National Collegiate Athletic Association—allege either defamation directly from the Freeh report, or that the defendant organizations improperly disseminated or relied on those conclusions.

But in light of the recent conviction, those claims might all be in peril, said Bochetto & Lentz attorney George Bochetto, who focuses in part on defamation lawsuits.

"The gist or the sting of [the Freeh report] statement has now been borne out by a jury in a criminal trial beyond a reasonable doubt. That's going to significantly hinder Spanier's ability to prevail in a defamation suit," Bochetto said. "There's going to be ramifications in the Paterno case, no question about it. The jury's verdict, at least in some respect, bears out the thrust of the Freeh report that there was an institutional failure."

Bochetto noted that, because of Spanier's public position, he faces a heightened burden when it comes to prevailing in a defamation case, and so even if the criminal conviction is ultimately overturned by an appellate court, the verdict will still be a major hurdle for Spanier in the civil case.

"Regardless of whether it is overturned, it is helpful to the defense because the standard is not falsity, it's knowing falsity," Bochetto said. "It loses its knowing, or outrageous falsity feature."

Kline & Specter attorney Thomas R. Kline agreed.

"It's extraordinarily significant. He was criminally convicted of the very thing which he alleged in his lawsuit was defamatory," Kline said. "In libel suits, truth is a defense."

Kline represented victims of Sandusky in civil suits against Penn State, and one of the victims Kline represented was an unnamed witness at Spanier's criminal trial. That witness said he was molested by Sandusky after Spanier and others failed to act on a report in 2001 that Sandusky had showered with a young boy on campus.

Admissibility of Criminal Findings
Whether or not the guilty finding will be admitted into the civil suits has yet to be determined, given how recent the verdict is. However, according to attorneys, acquittals are usually not allowed to come into civil suits due to the differences in being "not guilty" versus "innocent," but criminal convictions are often admissible and weighty evidence for juries.

However, Pittsburgh civil attorney John Gismondi noted that the admissibility is not always so clear, and attorneys may want to drill down into exactly how each element of the criminal conviction relates to the specific civil claims.

"For example, one of the big debates [in the Spanier case] was whether or not [he knew the 2001 shower] incident was horseplay, or sexual. I'm not sure if that misdemeanor conviction would involve a finding one way or the other on that," Gismondi said. "So it depends on what it is you're trying to use the conviction for."

Montgomery McCracken Walker & Rhoads attorney Jeremy Mishkin, who often represents defendants in complex civil suits, took that notion one step further, and said that, given the fact that Spanier was acquitted and found guilty on very similar charges, the argument could be made that no clear connections could be drawn.

"I could almost see a judge saying we can't speculate about what a jury did and why," Mishkin said. "I can imagine a judge saying, 'I'm not going to allow any of that into evidence.'"

The argument, however, would require some serious "flyspecking by some very smart lawyers," he said.

Dechert attorney Robert C. Heim, who is representing Freeh, said Spanier's civil suit against Freeh was "always a weak case."

"Now it's gotten considerably weaker," he said. "We're looking at the legal consequences and haven't come to a conclusion at this point."

Spanier's attorney, Elizabeth Locke of Clare Locke, as well as a spokeswoman for Penn State, the communications office for the National Collegiate Athletic Association and Thomas Weber of Goldberg Katzman, who is representing the Paterno plaintiffs, did not return messages seeking comment.

I fixed his press release to better reflect what actually went on at trial:




REMEMBER...Only Louis Freeh can have the populace turn on a true "innocent" hero (Richard Jewell) and make him public enemy #1.

Give that some thought.
 
....will his bizarre, inflammatory rant spewed from his law firm affect the current civil cases?
Discuss.


The Legal Intelligencer wrote this on March 27:

Former Penn State president Graham Spanier was acquitted of the two most serious charges he faced over allegations that he harbored serial child molester Jerry Sandusky, but the guilty verdict on a misdemeanor child endangerment charge will likely kill any chances of recovery in civil suits over fallout from the Sandusky scandal, according to attorneys.

On March 24, a Dauphin County jury found Spanier guilty on the misdemeanor for failing to properly act in the face of reports that Sandusky had molested a child, but also acquitted him of a felony count of child endangerment and a related conspiracy charge. The misdemeanor conviction is punishable by a maximum of five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

The conviction, according to civil attorneys, is at least in part a validation of the controversial report written by Louis Freeh, often referred to as the "Freeh report," that blamed Spanier and other Penn State officials for failing to stop Sandusky, who in 2012 was found guilty of 45 out of 48 charges related to sexual abuse of children.

The report outlined what Freeh alleged were the failures of the organization to respond to reports of child sexual abuse, and, since being released in July 2012, the document has been central to at least three high-profile civil suits filed in connection to the Sandusky scandal.

Those suits—Spanier v. Freeh, Spanier v. Penn State and Paterno v. National Collegiate Athletic Association—allege either defamation directly from the Freeh report, or that the defendant organizations improperly disseminated or relied on those conclusions.

But in light of the recent conviction, those claims might all be in peril, said Bochetto & Lentz attorney George Bochetto, who focuses in part on defamation lawsuits.

"The gist or the sting of [the Freeh report] statement has now been borne out by a jury in a criminal trial beyond a reasonable doubt. That's going to significantly hinder Spanier's ability to prevail in a defamation suit," Bochetto said. "There's going to be ramifications in the Paterno case, no question about it. The jury's verdict, at least in some respect, bears out the thrust of the Freeh report that there was an institutional failure."

Bochetto noted that, because of Spanier's public position, he faces a heightened burden when it comes to prevailing in a defamation case, and so even if the criminal conviction is ultimately overturned by an appellate court, the verdict will still be a major hurdle for Spanier in the civil case.

"Regardless of whether it is overturned, it is helpful to the defense because the standard is not falsity, it's knowing falsity," Bochetto said. "It loses its knowing, or outrageous falsity feature."

Kline & Specter attorney Thomas R. Kline agreed.

"It's extraordinarily significant. He was criminally convicted of the very thing which he alleged in his lawsuit was defamatory," Kline said. "In libel suits, truth is a defense."

Kline represented victims of Sandusky in civil suits against Penn State, and one of the victims Kline represented was an unnamed witness at Spanier's criminal trial. That witness said he was molested by Sandusky after Spanier and others failed to act on a report in 2001 that Sandusky had showered with a young boy on campus.

Admissibility of Criminal Findings
Whether or not the guilty finding will be admitted into the civil suits has yet to be determined, given how recent the verdict is. However, according to attorneys, acquittals are usually not allowed to come into civil suits due to the differences in being "not guilty" versus "innocent," but criminal convictions are often admissible and weighty evidence for juries.

However, Pittsburgh civil attorney John Gismondi noted that the admissibility is not always so clear, and attorneys may want to drill down into exactly how each element of the criminal conviction relates to the specific civil claims.

"For example, one of the big debates [in the Spanier case] was whether or not [he knew the 2001 shower] incident was horseplay, or sexual. I'm not sure if that misdemeanor conviction would involve a finding one way or the other on that," Gismondi said. "So it depends on what it is you're trying to use the conviction for."

Montgomery McCracken Walker & Rhoads attorney Jeremy Mishkin, who often represents defendants in complex civil suits, took that notion one step further, and said that, given the fact that Spanier was acquitted and found guilty on very similar charges, the argument could be made that no clear connections could be drawn.

"I could almost see a judge saying we can't speculate about what a jury did and why," Mishkin said. "I can imagine a judge saying, 'I'm not going to allow any of that into evidence.'"

The argument, however, would require some serious "flyspecking by some very smart lawyers," he said.

Dechert attorney Robert C. Heim, who is representing Freeh, said Spanier's civil suit against Freeh was "always a weak case."

"Now it's gotten considerably weaker," he said. "We're looking at the legal consequences and haven't come to a conclusion at this point."

Spanier's attorney, Elizabeth Locke of Clare Locke, as well as a spokeswoman for Penn State, the communications office for the National Collegiate Athletic Association and Thomas Weber of Goldberg Katzman, who is representing the Paterno plaintiffs, did not return messages seeking comment.

I fixed his press release to better reflect what actually went on at trial:



The Rutgers loons on their board think Freeh's insane rant somehow legitimizes their sick interest for there to have been a scandal.
Many of the loons think that despite none of Freeh's crazy theories holding water in a court of law that somehow three misdemeanors legitimize the freeh-fraud report. Sorry loons - no conspiracy or cover-up found in a court of law. That's what the freeh-fraud report alleged. Instead the justice system basically gave these guys a slap on the wrist for bad judgment in reporting to tsm instead of cys.
The loons are so upset their dreams of our program crumbling have not materialized. Instead we only have great things happening and that's how it should be for what was/is a model program.
Again loons - 3 misdemeanors out of 22 charges and 14 felonies. Freeh's report was completely repudiated despite his insane rant. Those are the facts.
Disgusting how the loons only ever cared about getting a few recruits. Ignorance is bliss among the hateful loons in college football.
 
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