Somebody explain the two point attempt logic?
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Nope. The risk was not worth the reward. As one poster said even if made it was the wrong choice there. The announcers touched on it later and I believe Blackledge did not agree either. I was not upset after the play but before the play. Hell with the result.
Exactly. Minny left for the kickoff feeling better than they should have
Maybe that is the case for some but I was screaming at my set saying no before that snap.
Actually the sideline made the tackle. Slade’s decision to go outside gave him limited options. If he goes inside, even if he gets hit, there’s a good chance his momentum takes him into the EZ
Not sure about winning the game but why would you let Minnesota feel good about themselves before the kickoff? Keep your momentum.
Disagreed. I was screaming at the TV before the ball was ever snapped. You do NOT go for 2 at that time in that situation. You do not chase that point that early.
Didn’t have a problem with it and it wasn’t the decisive factor in the game. And Ricky Slade wonders why he isn’t starting. All he had to do was run the ball to the inside on the play and he scores.
Completely different time and situation, and they were leading. If you think that the two situations are comparable, then this conversation is over.
Ease up brother. I was screaming at the TV well before the snap. This was no after the fact reaction from me. Anybody can bitch after the fact. That was a bad choice.
BINGO!! It is aggravating me how people think that being against that decision is - AT ALL - based on the results of the decision. It's not. If he made it, I would have still said that he was an idiot for attempting it
It wasn't a decisive factor?? Do you understand how much that point would have changed our strategy on our last two drives???
I would probably agree but no reason to leave yourself down five there. None at all. A field goal puts you down eight. Its about risknand reward. Minny left the field leaving much beyter than they should with a big stop. Tons of game left. It killed momentum.
So you felt like that was the correct decision? You may not want to throw that "idiot" word around and just look at a mirror instead ;-)OK...
Great.....
So you are a DETERMINED and ADAMANT idiot.
Congratulations
(Here’s a clue for ya’ dinglehumpnuts...... no matter what YOU thought, or when you thought it, it was the correct decision)
You can't really project for sure but after minny scored 7 immediatly after that point would have allowed us to kick 3 instead of having to go for 6 and miss on 4th down on the ensuing drive. There were just so many things that contributed to that loss.
Agreed. Terrible decision by Slade. Cain and Journey are way ahead of him and Ford soon will be. A healthy Cain would have been a huge boost in the Goal to Go situations.
Nope, going for two in the 3rd quarter, in that situation, was not the correct decision.
Throw your statistics out the window. I'm an eye-balls guy and I see the decision to go for two THAT early backfire more often than not. Just like teams who go for 2 and the win instead of kicking the XP for OT. Both are stupid decisions, regardless of the outcome.I’m sure you’re right...... except that you’re not
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I know this is an unpopular opinion and I don't really care but when PSU was driving, I turned to my buddy (a Minnesota guy) and I said that if PSU scores to get to 24-19, they should go for 2. I used to be a proponent of the rule of not chasing points until the 4th quarter but to me, it was a gut instinct to try and strike and get to 24-21 because to that point, the defense wasn't giving me any indication that they were going to stop Minny and we were gonna need as many points as we could get and to try to keep it within a FG if we were gonna trade touchdowns back and forth. Obviously, you can't know where the game was gonna go whether or not the conversion was made. As it turned out, yes, kicking the XP probably puts the game on Pinegar's toe rather than a desperate attempt to get down the field for a TD. But then, does Fleck go into clockball mode at 31-23 (provided that we kick the XP, they get the TD, we get the FG rather than turning it over on downs at the goal line)? Who knows.
The play call on that conversion? Blech. And yet, Slade very likely scores if he doesn't go to the sideline. I'll never understand why runners have a magnet attached to them that draws them to the sideline. Journey did something similar on his long TD; I was worried he was gonna run out of space before he got to the goal line.
The play call on that conversion? Blech. And yet, Slade very likely scores if he doesn't go to the sideline. I'll never understand why runners have a magnet attached to them that draws them to the sideline. Journey did something similar on his long TD; I was worried he was gonna run out of space before he got to the goal line.
Not needed with over 19 minutes left in game. Simply too early to start chasing points.
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Just commented on this in another thread... my vote for worst series of the year. Simply awful. And yeah, why are we throwing jump balls to Hamler?
Who else is there besides Freiermuth? I wasn't a fan of Hamler running that route. Cliff may have had other options that he missed.
When your number of likely possessions remaining in game dictates the 2 pt attempt when considering the score. Cutting MN lead to 3 with 19 minutes remaining vs 4 was not necessary. And that’s exactly how it played out. Could have had opportunity to win with FG on last possession. With your logic were you upset kicking after our next TD. Why not endorse 2 pt attempt there?
I agree, just don't think that should be the go-to play (more than once today). PF has superior height and hands.
I see no problem using analytics to address going for 2 pt vs 1 pt. Seems that is one of the best times to use analytics. It was a good play call. Unfortunately Slade went outside when he should have went inside. Kid made a mistake.
I am at a loss to understand why people think Ricky would have made the end-zone if he had gone to the right. That presumes #41 not only misses the tackle, but doesn't slow down Slade enough to let the two guys right behind him get in on the play. That, to me, is quite a stretch. It certainly wasn't "walk in," as one poster suggested. What are you guys looking at?
So Slade chooses to go to the left, where there was no defender, only the sideline. Slade makes that choice before Bowers lets his man free to make the tackle.
Watch the play again. And again if you need to. There is no way going to the right would have guaranteed getting in. Have to assume that at least one tackle gets missed with that choice.
As much as I feel Slade is our #4 back and should not be in on such a critical play, he made a reasonable choice at the time a choice needed to be made.
So Slade chooses to go to the left, where there was no defender, only the sideline. Slade makes that choice before Bowers lets his man free to make the tackle.
Watch the play again. And again if you need to. There is no way going to the right would have guaranteed getting in. Have to assume that at least one tackle gets missed with that choice.
As much as I feel Slade is our #4 back and should not be in on such a critical play, he made a reasonable choice at the time a choice needed to be made.
WE HAD A FIRST DOWN AT THE 10 WITH 2 MINS LEFT!
Touchdown wins it. No ot. Cant score that TD, not gonna win. FG? OVER TIME???
It's a road game. If you're not prepared to go down there and take it from them, with 2 mins. left, then STFU and go the F home.
IMO, Slade probably has had his stock drop more this season than any other player.
Absolutely true, but yesterday's performance doesn't give fans much confidence that this team can win @ OSU. Fact is it gives fans concern about Indiana and that we can even remain competitive with OSU. We'll see what happens.
I think that the 2 point chart says: “only make this decision when it is highly unlikely that your opponent will be scoring any more points” in bold, red text that is highlighted in yellow! CJF overlooked that!
To me we seem limited on the offensive play calls.... calling the same plays....there are a million pass plays... 9 games in.. we run 5 different types of passes. Same with the run plays. There is ZERO creativity and it is very predictable. 3rd and 4... QB draw.
Nothing new nothing imaginative and very predictable. The execution is a whole different conversation. I cant even figure out our offensive identity... I think it is trying to hit the home run 5 times per game.
Nothing new nothing imaginative and very predictable. The execution is a whole different conversation. I cant even figure out our offensive identity... I think it is trying to hit the home run 5 times per game.
