something for Tan Tom to fix
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Let’s see Olympic gold medalist, World champion freestyle wrestler, and 2 time NCAA champ not chosen over a better than average college quarterback and a doubtful NFL career at quarterback? I’m stumped too.
Even Darth Ryan kneels at the alter that is tO$U football....no way he speaks out.
Remember we saw J.T. Barrett in the clutch -- PSU scores off a blocked punt to go up 24-21 with 4 minutes+ to go in the game. Ohio State gets the ball back; plenty of time left, need 3 points to tie and a TD to win, all-star QB Barrett at the helm....
The results -- gained 12 yards in 10 plays; ball went over to PSU on downs, game over.
J.T. wasn't the best player on the field that day, he wasn't the best tOSU player on the field that day, and he certainly wasn't the best QB on the field that day. So not only was Kyle Snyder waaaay more deserving of this award, Barrett didn't do great things himself.
The results -- gained 12 yards in 10 plays; ball went over to PSU on downs, game over.
J.T. wasn't the best player on the field that day, he wasn't the best tOSU player on the field that day, and he certainly wasn't the best QB on the field that day. So not only was Kyle Snyder waaaay more deserving of this award, Barrett didn't do great things himself.
I know you're a big tOSU guy. What's your take on Ryan's comments the other day regarding the hodge.
I can't really say I disagree with his statement but only because I believe Kyle Snyder is the best wrestler in college (no bias I promise). However the award is presented to the guy who dominates all his competition and no one in college wrestling does that like Zain. Not to make a basketball reference but Lebron James is undoubtedly the best player in the NBA and arguably has been for the last 10 years yet he only has 4 season MVP's. Same scenario with Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Point being that just because you may be the best doesn't mean you should win that award. You've got to be doing something extraordinary throughout the season and as far as pure domination I'd have to give that to Retheford.
Just can't understand why he would come off like such a sore loser. The Hodge has a criteria unlike your Lebron scenario. Ryan knows the criteria and knows his guy don't come close in that criteria. So why even go there? Why not just say Zain had the best season based on the Hodge criteria and leave it at that?
From what I can remember about Tom (hasn't changed too much since he's been at tOSU) is he's very competitive so it doesn't surprise me that he'd still have something to say after the fact. I guess it is what it is but I believe the right guy got the award.
I wasn't trying to make the same point as him, I think Zain earned the hodge and only 2 other people were really deserving of it other than him (one being his teammate the other Dean who was eliminated with that finals loss). I only agreed with him that I think Snyder is the best wrestler in college.
I got your point. I was just saying your delivery was much better than Tommy's.
TR Yan has yet to give this a retweet
or this
or this
JT wrestling Kyle. The biggest, baddest athletes on Ohio State's football team say softly "Mr. Snyder" when addressing Kyle Snyder.
Trying not to be too serious, but unfortunately it is worse than ignorant and not thinking. Watch the news and you see that people, even the "most educated", seem incapable of thinking rationally and logically through a problem. As a people we are run by emotions and self. We are blinded by it and nothing else matters except what is good for ME.
For anyone to even try to compare Barrett and Snyder would be laughable if it wasn't so sad and ridiculous since this type of "non-thinking" happens in every area of life these days.
On a more positive note, How bout them Phillies? Oh wait.....
Guess I'll just have to stay positive by reflecting back on another National Championship, the 5 individuals, and what next year looks like. That seems to help.
JT Barrett is getting credit for his Fiesta Bowl perfomance? Did they play that game twice or something and I missed him actually performing?
19 of 33 for 127 yards and 2 ints. LOL
19 of 33 for 127 yards and 2 ints. LOL
The funny thing about the 2016-17 football comparison is how strongly both individual and team comparisons favor wrestling.
Individual:
- Snyder: B10 champ, NCAA champ, Olympic champ
- Barrett: B10 first team (but not Offensive Player of the year, NCAA (I'm too lazy to look up where he finished in the various All-America teams, but Louisville's Lamar Jackson was the consensus first team QB)
Team:
- Snyder: B10 champ, NCAA 2nd
- Barrett: B10 3rd, NCAA 6th after being shut out in the semis
That 31-0 Clemson loss is especially egregious for a QB to get shut out in the national semis. I vaguely recall Alabama's true freshman QB not getting shut out in the finals.
Individual:
- Snyder: B10 champ, NCAA champ, Olympic champ
- Barrett: B10 first team (but not Offensive Player of the year, NCAA (I'm too lazy to look up where he finished in the various All-America teams, but Louisville's Lamar Jackson was the consensus first team QB)
Team:
- Snyder: B10 champ, NCAA 2nd
- Barrett: B10 3rd, NCAA 6th after being shut out in the semis
That 31-0 Clemson loss is especially egregious for a QB to get shut out in the national semis. I vaguely recall Alabama's true freshman QB not getting shut out in the finals.
+1000 Never got it as to why this guy is so venerated when with the key game of the season on the line and 4 minutes and only 3 points needed to tie he get a whopping 12 yards!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was a student vote so it makes sense that a football player won what was essentially a popularity contest, but it's a not-great reflection on tOSU that its student body failed to recognize an objective fact. Wrestling needs more hype there, and not just when Penn State shows up to blow them out in a dual.
Perhaps the president of the coaches association could help market Snyder on campus. If only he were in Columbus ...
what's an Olympic gold medal after all... Don't think he even got on the Wheaties box (did he?)!
1. Snyder deserves that award over Barrett
2. Snyder is the best freestyle wrestler in college. I do not believe He is the best folk style wrestler in college & did not deserve the Hodge.
2. Snyder is the best freestyle wrestler in college. I do not believe He is the best folk style wrestler in college & did not deserve the Hodge.
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