South Dakota’s AG Reported Hitting A Deer With His Car. He Actually Killed A Man.

[Nitt1300]

South Dakota’s attorney general reported hitting a deer with his car over the weekend, but state investigators said Monday that he actually killed a man whose body was not found until the next day.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) said at a Sunday news conference that Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg was involved in a fatal crash around 10:30 p.m. on Saturday near Highmore, but didn’t release details of the incident.

The South Dakota Department of Public Safety released a statement Monday saying that Ravnsborg told the Hyde County Sherriff’s Office that he hit a deer just west of Highmore. The statement, which was first reported by The Rapid City Journal, did not include whether the attorney general reported the crash in a 911 call or whether he stopped to confirm that he did indeed hit a deer.

The victim was identified as 55-year-old Joseph Boever of Highmore. Boever’s relatives grew suspicious and frustrated after it allegedly took almost 22 hours to identify his body, his cousin Nick

Nemec told the Associated Press. Nemec said Boever was likely walking along the road at the time of the crash.


“A deer doesn’t look like a human,” Nemec’s brother Victor told the Journal.

More: https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/south-dakota-attorney-general-killed-man-202949466.html

 

[psuro]

Guessing nothing happens to him. He posts a mea culpa and gets elected as the next governor.

 

[Nitt1300]

He may get away with this, but it's more serious than hitting a tree in Vermont

 

[BW Lion]

South Dakota’s attorney general reported hitting a deer with his car over the weekend, but state investigators said Monday that he actually killed a man whose body was not found until the next day.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) said at a Sunday news conference that Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg was involved in a fatal crash around 10:30 p.m. on Saturday near Highmore, but didn’t release details of the incident.

The South Dakota Department of Public Safety released a statement Monday saying that Ravnsborg told the Hyde County Sherriff’s Office that he hit a deer just west of Highmore. The statement, which was first reported by The Rapid City Journal, did not include whether the attorney general reported the crash in a 911 call or whether he stopped to confirm that he did indeed hit a deer.

The victim was identified as 55-year-old Joseph Boever of Highmore. Boever’s relatives grew suspicious and frustrated after it allegedly took almost 22 hours to identify his body, his cousin Nick

Nemec told the Associated Press. Nemec said Boever was likely walking along the road at the time of the crash.


“A deer doesn’t look like a human,” Nemec’s brother Victor told the Journal.

More: https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/south-dakota-attorney-general-killed-man-202949466.html

A Paterno son-in-law is facing similar problems. Not political enough for you?

 

[LionJim]

Seems to me that it was a tragic accident. Edit: I read a more recent report than what was posted by the OP. As I understand it, he called the sheriff and they looked for the deer, couldn’t find it. He went back the next day and found the body.

Another edit: Here’s a story from NPR which tells a story identical to what I posted.

S.D.'s Attorney General Fatally Strikes Man With Car, Says He Thought He Hit A Deer

South Dakota Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg struck and killed a 55-year-old man on a rural stretch of road Saturday night. State authorities are investigating.

www.npr.org

All that said, anyone who says he doesn’t remember if he had a drink at a party, as someone stated in this thread, had a drink.

 

[Nitt1300]

A Paterno son-in-law is facing similar problems. Not political enough for you?

didn't see that, but I don't see a hit and run killing as political- more like murder by vehicle

 

[fastlax16]

He must have been absolutely flying for a collision with a person to leave his car undrivable.

 

[NittPicker]

"Bormann said Sunday evening that Ravnsborg “drinks lightly” and doesn’t believe he was drinking at the event."

He doesn't believe he was drinking?? So apparently he wasn't sure if he was pouring booze down his throat. That alone makes me think he's hiding something. Maybe he was getting road head from his secretary. South Dakota pols must be as shady as those in PA. Somewhere, Thomas Druce is saying, "What an amateur." And Margo Davidson is thinking, "Geez, at least I had the sense to not kill someone."

 

[Aardvark86]

Seems to me that it was a tragic accident.

Yeah. While it’s easy for us to sit here and say a deer doesn’t look like a human, people do make mistakes. Sad for the family, sad for the ag.

 

[Nitt1300]

Yeah. While it’s easy for us to sit here and say a deer doesn’t look like a human, people do make mistakes. Sad for the family, sad for the ag.

That's because a deer doesn't look like a human. And yes, it's tragic for all involved- I just smell coverup.

 

[Nittany_93]

Also in the press, was Ravnsborg had six speeding violations between 2014 and 2018

 

[Nitt1300]

Also in the press, was Ravnsborg had six speeding violations between 2014 and 2018

I don't remember the details, but a number of years ago some pol hit and killed someone while speeding and running a stop sign- seems he had a similar driving record. I want to say it was either Texas or Oklahoma, but I'm not sure.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Also in the press, was Ravnsborg had six speeding violations between 2014 and 2018

Important data point. And given the lax traffic enforcement in much of the Plains and Intermountain West, that’s probably the equivalent of Pitt’s mythical national championship amount in Pa (I.e. 613 or so)

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Seems to me that it was a tragic accident. Edit: I read a more recent report than what was posted by the OP. As I understand it, he called the sheriff and they looked for the deer, couldn’t find it. He went back the next day and found the body.

Another edit: Here’s a story from NPR which tells a story identical to what I posted.

S.D.'s Attorney General Fatally Strikes Man With Car, Says He Thought He Hit A Deer

South Dakota Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg struck and killed a 55-year-old man on a rural stretch of road Saturday night. State authorities are investigating.

www.npr.org

All that said, anyone who says he doesn’t remember if he had a drink at a party, as someone stated in this thread, had a drink.

If they admit to drinking, it’s almost always 2

 

[LionJim]

If they admit to drinking, it’s always at least 2

Fixed it for you.

 

[Frabjous]

‘Occifer, (hic), I think I hit a beer, uhhh a deer.’

 

[LafayetteBear]

Odds are he went home to sleep it off, knowing that hs BAC would be problematic if he had to submit to a breathalyzer test or blood test that same night. I doubt they ever tested him at all, even the next morning, when he said he went back with a sheriff's deputy to look around for the "deer." (And if you honestly thought it was a deer, why would you go back to look?).

 

[LionJim]

Odds are he went home to sleep it off, knowing that hs BAC would be problematic if he had to submit to a breathalyzer test or blood test that same night. I doubt they ever tested him at all, even the next morning, when he said he went back with a sheriff's deputy to look around for the "deer." (And if you honestly thought it was a deer, why would you go back to look?).

The NPR story said that the sheriff came to the scene of the accident that night. He then drove the sheriff’s personal car home. Putting two and two together, he must have told the sheriff over the phone that his car was too badly damaged to drive home so the sheriff and a friend drove two cars to the scene. How he came upon the body the next morning: he was on his way back home with an aide after dropping off the sheriff’s car and stopped to clear debris from the accident. Maybe there’s more to it than this, but I doubt he made up the part about driving the sheriff’s car home.

 

[fkkkjm]

I'm sure it's some bs, but this at its worst is vehicular manslaughter, correct?

 

[ClarkstonMark]

The NPR story said that the sheriff came to the scene of the accident that night. He then drove the sheriff’s personal car home. Putting two and two together, he must have told the sheriff over the phone that his car was too badly damaged to drive home so the sheriff and a friend drove two cars to the scene. How he came upon the body the next morning: he was on his way back home with an aide after dropping off the sheriff’s car and stopped to clear debris from the accident. Maybe there’s more to it than this, but I doubt he made up the part about driving the sheriff’s car home.

the state AG stopped the next day to clear debris? No F'n way

 

[cjrugger]

the state AG stopped the next day to clear debris? No F'n way

Yeah, the returning to the scene the next day is the strange part. The not looking at the road to tell what type of animal you’re about to smash is the shady part

 

[mn78psu83]

A Paterno son-in-law is facing similar problems. Not political enough for you?

You do keep an eye on all things Centre County, eh? The defendant's account in that one isn't credible either.

 

[BW Lion]

I keep a lazy eye on many things

 

[91Joe95]

The NPR story said that the sheriff came to the scene of the accident that night. He then drove the sheriff’s personal car home. Putting two and two together, he must have told the sheriff over the phone that his car was too badly damaged to drive home so the sheriff and a friend drove two cars to the scene. How he came upon the body the next morning: he was on his way back home with an aide after dropping off the sheriff’s car and stopped to clear debris from the accident. Maybe there’s more to it than this, but I doubt he made up the part about driving the sheriff’s car home.

That is odd. Why would the sheriff let him drive his personal vehicle if he was drunk or had been drinking?

 

[CentexLion]

I don't remember the details, but a number of years ago some pol hit and killed someone while speeding and running a stop sign- seems he had a similar driving record. I want to say it was either Texas or Oklahoma, but I'm not sure.

Not certain if this is what you were thinking, but Austin's own County District Attorney blew a .239 while driving her car in a bike lane. Lots of politics involved, of course, but she used the "do you know who I am" card as well. Didn't kill anyone, but lots of abuse of power
Rosemary Lehmberg

Or was it her top prosecutor?
DUI - Her Top Prosecutor

Lots of drinking in that department. She stated that she never fired an employee for first time DUI, and there have been many cases up and down the ranks in her department. WTF?

 

[wbcincy]

"Bormann said Sunday evening that Ravnsborg “drinks lightly” and doesn’t believe he was drinking at the event."

He doesn't believe he was drinking?? So apparently he wasn't sure if he was pouring booze down his throat. That alone makes me think he's hiding something. Maybe he was getting road head from his secretary. South Dakota pols must be as shady as those in PA. Somewhere, Thomas Druce is saying, "What an amateur." And Margo Davidson is thinking, "Geez, at least I had the sense to not kill someone."

Need to better understand what this quote means. You are interpreting it as the AG saying he doesn’t believe he was drinking. It could also be read as the spokesperson saying he doesn’t believe the AG was drinking. Big difference.

 

[LionJim]

the state AG stopped the next day to clear debris? No F'n way

Yeah, that is the puzzling thing.

 

[berklion]

didn't see that, but I don't see a hit and run killing as political- more like murder by vehicle

Dude, what candy bar you eat is political anymore. And if you like more than one, you're a f'n snowflake.

 

[NittPicker]

Need to better understand what this quote means. You are interpreting it as the AG saying he doesn’t believe he was drinking. It could also be read as the spokesperson saying he doesn’t believe the AG was drinking. Big difference.

Nice catch. It likely does mean the spokesman didn't believe he was drinking. The dangling pronoun threw me. Using "the attorney general" instead of "he" would have made it clearer. The editor needs to get on the ball!! If I was a South Dakota resident, I'd like to hear the story from the AG and not a spokesman.

 

[LionJim]

Nice catch. It likely does mean the spokesman didn't believe he was drinking. The dangling pronoun threw me. Using "the attorney general" instead of "he" would have made it clearer. The editor needs to get on the ball!! If I was a South Dakota resident, I'd like to hear the story from the AG and not a spokesman.

Yeah, but it was something that I myself should have caught. The story I posted was very ambiguous but filling in the blanks really wasn’t that hard.

 

[91Joe95]

Nice catch. It likely does mean the spokesman didn't believe he was drinking. The dangling pronoun threw me. Using "the attorney general" instead of "he" would have made it clearer. The editor needs to get on the ball!! If I was a South Dakota resident, I'd like to hear the story from the AG and not a spokesman.

Accuracy? Accuracy?!? We don't need no stinking accuracy!

 

[NittPicker]

Yeah, but it was something that I myself should have caught. The story I posted was very ambiguous but filling in the blanks really wasn’t that hard.

When it comes to politicians, I get very suspicious which it probably why I read it the way I did. "I don't recall" is a common response to allegations of wrongdoing. It wouldn't shock me to hear a politician say he isn't sure if he had anything to drink earlier in the evening.

 

[LionJim]

When it comes to politicians, I get very suspicious which it probably why I read it the way I did. "I don't recall" is a common response to allegations of wrongdoing. It wouldn't shock me to hear a politician say he isn't sure if he had anything to drink earlier in the evening.

I imagine that might have been a factor for me, as well.

 

[LionDeNittany]

[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a tragic accident to me as well.
He called the Sheriff.

Nice catch. It likely does mean the spokesman didn't believe he was drinking. The dangling pronoun threw me. Using "the attorney general" instead of "he" would have made it clearer. The editor needs to get on the ball!! If I was a South Dakota resident, I'd like to hear the story from the AG and not a spokesman.

The AG already said he wasn't drinking.

LdN

 

[Lion84]

That seems to be the move by politicians and celebrities - get into an accident drunk and run away. When the cops come don't answer the door and lawyer up. Seems to work more often then not.

 

[Obliviax]

That seems to be the move by politicians and celebrities - get into an accident drunk and run away. When the cops come don't answer the door and lawyer up. Seems to work more often then not.

these are constitutional rights afforded to everyone. They may have more influence or can buy better lawyers...but this avenue is open to everyone who knows the constitution.

 

[Nitt1300]

these are constitutional rights afforded to everyone. They may have more influence or can buy better lawyers...but this avenue is open to everyone who knows the constitution.

leaving the scene is actually a crime and no one has the right to do it

 

[Obliviax]

leaving the scene is actually a crime and no one has the right to do it

I read an article stating that he had called the police as his car was no longer functioning. But I am not doing any research so could be wrong. But my point stands, you have constitutional rights and those are afforded to everyone.

 

[Nitt1300]

Having thought about this a bit, the first thing an experienced cop is going to look for is hair from the deer on the car- you can't hit a deer without picking up a lot of it. Since there wouldn't have been any, next step would be to ask if it wasn't a deer, what did he hit?

 

[Aardvark86]

Did none of you see goodfellas? He stopped at his mother in law and borrowed a knife to pry the hoof out of the grill.