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Spanier v. Freeh

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Request by Spanier to lift stay is granted. Discovery will begin. Freeh Group International is added as defendant. Request to add Penn State is denied.

Also interesting is that Spanier states he will not assert 5th amendment privilege in this. Other 5th amendment concerns with witnesses will be addressed as they arise.
 
Request by Spanier to lift stay is granted. Discovery will begin. Freeh Group International is added as defendant. Request to add Penn State is denied.

Also interesting is that Spanier states he will not assert 5th amendment privilege in this. Other 5th amendment concerns with witnesses will be addressed as they arise.

Tells me Spanier is very confident with his criminal case. Discovery here, again, is the key ingredient. Lots to be learned, me thinks.
 
More here: http://m.thelegalintelligencer.com/...=The+Legal+Intelligencer#!/article/1758390483

After nearly two years on hold, former Penn State University President Graham Spanier will be able to move forward with his defamation suit against Louis Freeh and his investigation group, but Spanier may not directly sue his former employer for breach of contract.

Lebanon County Court of Common Pleas Judge Robert Eby ruled Monday to modify a stay in the Spanier v. Freeh case that has been in place since February 2014. As part of the determination to lift the stay, Eby said Spanier, who is facing criminal charges over his handling of reports of sex abuse at the hands of serial child molester Jerry Sandusky, has told the court he does not plan on invoking his Fifth Amendment privilege in the civil suit.


While the ruling also allowed Spanier to sue Freeh’s investigative group, Freeh Group International Solutions, which is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Pepper Hamilton, the court rejected Spanier’s attempts to sue Penn State over claims that the school violated its separation agreement with Spanier by failing to stop “negative comments” from being made about him publicly.

Freeh, along with his firm, Freeh, Sporkin & Sullivan, had been hired by Penn State to investigate the university’s response to reports of sex abuse by Sandusky. Freeh and Freeh Sporkin then hired the Freeh Group to work on the investigation.

In his 12-page opinion, Eby said he did not find a sufficient link between Spanier’s claims against Freeh and Penn State to grant Spanier’s motion for joinder.

The claims against Freeh and his team focus on the Freeh report, which detailed findings that Spanier and others allegedly dragged their feet in addressing the claims about Sandusky. Spanier’s claims against the university, Eby said, deal exclusively with the terms of Spanier’s separation agreement.

“We are not persuaded that the liability plaintiff ascribes to Freeh and FSS in his tort claims and that which he ascribes to Penn State in the proposed breach of contract counts arise from a common factual background, even though, in the broadest sense, both involve fallout from the Sandusky investigation,” Eby said. “No fact proven in plaintiff’s tort action against Freeh and FSS would be dispositive of a factual issue in his contract action against Penn State.”

A fuller version of this article will be posted later when the article is completed.
 
So can anyone explain the Three Card Monte thing going on since 2011/2012 with the merging/joining Pepper Hamilton & Freeh Sporkin Sullivan - FGIS - SITF - and the latest move by Freeh going back to FSS?

Is this some corporate game of dodging a bullet? I'm just so confused by all that movement and these damned acronyms and whose liable for what.
 
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I'm with Spanier on this one. He was obviously slandered, and his career was ruined probably costing him $10 or $20 million in potential future earnings. But I wonder if Penn State will ultimately paying the damages anyway.

Even if they're not defendants, I imagine their standard contract with Freeh would mean they cover any legal fallout. I wonder how that will play out. If Freeh loses and is ordered to pay Spanier, does Freeh then sue PSU and tell them to pay up. And does PSU countersue and say Freeh violated the terms of his contract by making unsubstantiated claims at a press conference. It could take quite a while to sort this out.
 
I'm with Spanier on this one. He was obviously slandered, and his career was ruined probably costing him $10 or $20 million in potential future earnings. But I wonder if Penn State will ultimately paying the damages anyway.

Even if they're not defendants, I imagine their standard contract with Freeh would mean they cover any legal fallout. I wonder how that will play out. If Freeh loses and is ordered to pay Spanier, does Freeh then sue PSU and tell them to pay up. And does PSU countersue and say Freeh violated the terms of his contract by making unsubstantiated claims at a press conference. It could take quite a while to sort this out.
So just another 5+ years of waiting around for trials lol.
 
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I'm with Spanier on this one. He was obviously slandered, and his career was ruined probably costing him $10 or $20 million in potential future earnings. But I wonder if Penn State will ultimately paying the damages anyway.

Even if they're not defendants, I imagine their standard contract with Freeh would mean they cover any legal fallout. I wonder how that will play out. If Freeh loses and is ordered to pay Spanier, does Freeh then sue PSU and tell them to pay up. And does PSU countersue and say Freeh violated the terms of his contract by making unsubstantiated claims at a press conference. It could take quite a while to sort this out.
The most interesting thing - IMO:

1 - Spanier's "defamation" suit against PSU was INCREDIBLY strong.....moreso even, IMO, than the suit against Freeh.
2 - Still awaiting more details/clarity...but, does the Judge's decision to not allow the joinder with PSU "kill" that? Does Spanier have to re-file a separate suit against PSU? If so, are there SOL issues?
Not sure about any of those answers....but they are HUGE questions IMO

If it essentially "kills" the suit v PSU....do we have the situation predicted (by your's truly) several years ago...namely that "Freeh is used as the black hole for all liability"

Basically, using Freeh as the whore? Which is, for all intents and purposes, what he is (not solely in this case, but throughout His Honor's contemporary professional career)
 
I believe this is very good news. Spanier can discover what we already know and what the alumni BOT members and the Paterno family are discovering - the Freeh Report is a Farce.

Spanier says he will not assert his 5th Amendment rights in the civil case and that tells me that he not very concerned with any criminal liability. This case seems like it is backwards from most where the criminal case drives the civil case as it seems now that the civil case may drive the criminal case. If the civil case continues to gain traction, it seems like the State may be forced to drop the criminal case.

The house of cards is showing cracks in its foundation. The sooner that Freeh, the old guard BOT, the OAG, and the NCAA are exposed for their misdeeds the better.
 
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The most interesting thing - IMO:

1 - Spanier's "defamation" suit against PSU was INCREDIBLY strong.....moreso even, IMO, than the suit against Freeh.
2 - Still awaiting more details/clarity...but, does the Judge's decision to not allow the joinder with PSU "kill" that? Does Spanier have to re-file a separate suit against PSU? If so, are there SOL issues?
Not sure about any of those answers....but they are HUGE questions IMO

If it essentially "kills" the suit v PSU....do we have the situation predicted (by your's truly) several years ago...namely that "Freeh is used as the black hole for all liability"

Basically, using Freeh as the whore? Which is, for all intents and purposes, what he is (not solely in this case, but throughout His Honor's contemporary professional career)
Any SOL issue can be solved by making up a year. Just ask the PA GJ!
 
The most interesting thing - IMO:

1 - Spanier's "defamation" suit against PSU was INCREDIBLY strong.....moreso even, IMO, than the suit against Freeh.
2 - Still awaiting more details/clarity...but, does the Judge's decision to not allow the joinder with PSU "kill" that? Does Spanier have to re-file a separate suit against PSU? If so, are there SOL issues?
Not sure about any of those answers....but they are HUGE questions IMO

If it essentially "kills" the suit v PSU....do we have the situation predicted (by your's truly) several years ago...namely that "Freeh is used as the black hole for all liability"

Basically, using Freeh as the whore? Which is, for all intents and purposes, what he is (not solely in this case, but throughout His Honor's contemporary professional career)

although not a lawyer, reading the decision in plain English it appears the judge is merely saying Spanier cannot join PSU into his lawsuit against Freeh.

yes yes yes, we all know this is BS. Frazier and Tomalis and Freeh worked hand in hand. but for the courts, it seems like they are saying there is (currently) no legal proof they worked in concert to defame Spanier.

This should not affect any SOL issues if Spanier chooses to sue the BoT subsequent to this ruling.
 
More here: http://m.thelegalintelligencer.com/...=The+Legal+Intelligencer#!/article/1758390483

After nearly two years on hold, former Penn State University President Graham Spanier will be able to move forward with his defamation suit against Louis Freeh and his investigation group, but Spanier may not directly sue his former employer for breach of contract.
1. as far as I know, Spanier still works for Penn State, so "former employer" is incorrect.
2. the way I read the rest of this, Spanier would need to sue Penn State directly/separately as the judge refused joining Penn State onto the suit.

Once you get past the first sentence, the rest of the article seems to make sense.
 
Spanier's lawyer, Libby Locke, said the case "comes down to exposing just the false and defamatory conclusions that Freeh reached in the Freeh report."

She added: "We're very excited to move the case forward and to vindicate Dr. Spanier's reputation."

And this:
"As a result of that decision, Locke said, Spanier will file a complaint against Freeh and his team and will initiate a separate lawsuit against Penn State."

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=0VHGYOM6
 
Spanier's lawyer, Libby Locke, said the case "comes down to exposing just the false and defamatory conclusions that Freeh reached in the Freeh report."

She added: "We're very excited to move the case forward and to vindicate Dr. Spanier's reputation."

And this:
"As a result of that decision, Locke said, Spanier will file a complaint against Freeh and his team and will initiate a separate lawsuit against Penn State."

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=0VHGYOM6
At first glance this made me sad, but then I quickly realized it is not MY Penn State he would be suing. It would be Surma, Peetz, Frazer, Eckel and the other weasels that he would be going after.

I hope Locke kicks all of their asses!!
 
I'm with Spanier on this one. He was obviously slandered, and his career was ruined probably costing him $10 or $20 million in potential future earnings. But I wonder if Penn State will ultimately paying the damages anyway.

Even if they're not defendants, I imagine their standard contract with Freeh would mean they cover any legal fallout. I wonder how that will play out. If Freeh loses and is ordered to pay Spanier, does Freeh then sue PSU and tell them to pay up. And does PSU countersue and say Freeh violated the terms of his contract by making unsubstantiated claims at a press conference. It could take quite a while to sort this out.


Does Freeh flip on the BOT and essentially say he delivered what they wanted to save his own carcass?
 
Spanier's lawyer, Libby Locke, said the case "comes down to exposing just the false and defamatory conclusions that Freeh reached in the Freeh report."

She added: "We're very excited to move the case forward and to vindicate Dr. Spanier's reputation."

And this:
"As a result of that decision, Locke said, Spanier will file a complaint against Freeh and his team and will initiate a separate lawsuit against Penn State."

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=0VHGYOM6

And this part in particular is absolutely beautiful. Love it.
 
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Does Freeh flip on the BOT and essentially say he delivered what they wanted to save his own carcass?
Doubt it. That would be paramount to openly admitting that he is a fraud, which of course, he is.
 
Does Freeh flip on the BOT and essentially say he delivered what they wanted to save his own carcass?

Why would be need to flip? He could get his ass kicked in court, and Penn State would pick up the bill. (This is probably exactly WHY the BoT agreed to pay any of his legal costs! So he never needs to say "Well, I just wrote what my clients told me to.")
 
The most interesting thing - IMO:

1 - Spanier's "defamation" suit against PSU was INCREDIBLY strong.....moreso even, IMO, than the suit against Freeh.
2 - Still awaiting more details/clarity...but, does the Judge's decision to not allow the joinder with PSU "kill" that? Does Spanier have to re-file a separate suit against PSU? If so, are there SOL issues?
Not sure about any of those answers....but they are HUGE questions IMO

If it essentially "kills" the suit v PSU....do we have the situation predicted (by your's truly) several years ago...namely that "Freeh is used as the black hole for all liability"

Basically, using Freeh as the whore? Which is, for all intents and purposes, what he is (not solely in this case, but throughout His Honor's contemporary professional career)
Statute of limitations on any defamation claims Spanier had against Penn State ran out long ago.
 
I believe this is very good news. Spanier can discover what we already know and what the alumni BOT members and the Paterno family are discovering - the Freeh Report is a Farce.

Spanier says he will not assert his 5th Amendment rights in the civil case and that tells me that he not very concerned with any criminal liability. This case seems like it is backwards from most where the criminal case drives the civil case as it seems now that the civil case may drive the criminal case. If the civil case continues to gain traction, it seems like the State may be forced to drop the criminal case.

The house of cards is showing cracks in its foundation. The sooner that Freeh, the old guard BOT, the OAG, and the NCAA are exposed for their misdeeds the better.
You can't assert the Fifth Amendment in a civil case. Well, you can but your case will be dismissed.
 
This should not affect any SOL issues if Spanier chooses to sue the BoT subsequent to this ruling.

It would if the relevant statute of limitations for suing Penn State and/or its Board of Trustees has expired. Spanier was fired when, in late 2011 or early 2012? Each state in the Union has a welter of different statutes of limitation, each of them specific to a particular form of legal action. Defamation is a form of tort, and Pennsylvania likely has a specific statute of limitation for tort claims. A very relevant question is how long that statute of limitation runs. If this were California, the limitations period would run for a period of three or four years (can't recall which it is), beginning on the date that the plaintiff discovered (or reasonably should have discovered) that he had incurred damages

Pretty clear that Spanier incurred damages on the date he was fired, and perhaps earlier. If PSU could have been brought into an existing lawsuit as an additional defendant, there would be no SOL issue. But if Spanier has to file a new lawsuit to go after PSU, it seems to me the SOL issue is highly relevant.

Would be interested to get a Pennsylvania litigator's take on this one.
 
It would if the relevant statute of limitations for suing Penn State and/or its Board of Trustees has expired. Spanier was fired when, in late 2011 or early 2012? Each state in the Union has a welter of different statutes of limitation, each of them specific to a particular form of legal action. Defamation is a form of tort, and Pennsylvania likely has a specific statute of limitation for tort claims. A very relevant question is how long that statute of limitation runs. If this were California, the limitations period would run for a period of three or four years, beginning on the date that the plaintiff discovered (or reasonably should have discovered) that he had incurred damages

Pretty clear that Spanier incurred damages on the date he was fired, and perhaps earlier. If PSU could have been brought into an existing lawsuit as an additional defendant, there would be no SOL issue. But if Spanier has to file a new lawsuit to go after PSU, it seems to me the SOL issue is highly relevant.

Would be interested to get a Pennsylvania litigator's take on this one.
According to a real lawyer (an anti-CDW, if you will)......Spanier v PSU goes on.
 
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Why all the idle speculation? So far only CDW3333 has checked in to tell us the REAL meaning of the decision. I think we need to wait on Cruisin and Michnitt before we can form any REAL conclusions. Slow down everyone.
The meaning of the decision should be self evident to anyone who has average reading comprehension skills. Spanier has now agreed not to assert his 5th amendment right in his civil proceeding against Freeh. Likely because it is constitutionally permissible to draw an adverse inference from a party’s invocation of the Fifth Amendment in a non-criminal proceeding (Baxter v. Palmigiano, 425 U.S. 308 (1976). It now appears Spanky is looking to roll the dice on the civil case hoping it doesn't come back to haunt him in the criminal one. Such is the thinking of someone who thinks they can carefully and cleverly craft their responses without getting caught in the spider's web.

Finally, the judge has ruled that in this case, there is insufficient legal linkages involving contract vs defamation law thereby requiring a separate complaint be brought against PSU for the contractual issues.
 
Poor CR. His next garden party will be held in the middle of the spider's web, where all of his friends will soon be caught.
Interesting. Saw the old classic "The Fly" was on the other day ( the one with Vincent Price)

Very appropriate imagery for CR and his masters
 
The meaning of the decision should be self evident to anyone who has average reading comprehension skills. Spanier has now agreed not to assert his 5th amendment right in his civil proceeding against Freeh. Likely because it is constitutionally permissible to draw an adverse inference from a party’s invocation of the Fifth Amendment in a non-criminal proceeding (Baxter v. Palmigiano, 425 U.S. 308 (1976). It now appears Spanky is looking to roll the dice on the civil case hoping it doesn't come back to haunt him in the criminal one. Such is the thinking of someone who thinks they can carefully and cleverly craft their responses without getting caught in the spider's web.

Finally, the judge has ruled that in this case, there is insufficient legal linkages involving contract vs defamation law thereby requiring a separate complaint be brought against PSU for the contractual issues.
This is likely the first time I agree with your interpretation of things.
 
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This is likely the first time I agree with your interpretation of things.
LOL ......because he is too obtuse to even realize that the previous poster was laughing at him.......and then CR just regurgitated the givens, without addressing the questions (apparently, because he hasn't been given any "spin points" yet)

:)
 
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The meaning of the decision should be self evident to anyone who has average reading comprehension skills. Spanier has now agreed not to assert his 5th amendment right in his civil proceeding against Freeh. Likely because it is constitutionally permissible to draw an adverse inference from a party’s invocation of the Fifth Amendment in a non-criminal proceeding (Baxter v. Palmigiano, 425 U.S. 308 (1976). It now appears Spanky is looking to roll the dice on the civil case hoping it doesn't come back to haunt him in the criminal one. Such is the thinking of someone who thinks they can carefully and cleverly craft their responses without getting caught in the spider's web.

Finally, the judge has ruled that in this case, there is insufficient legal linkages involving contract vs defamation law thereby requiring a separate complaint be brought against PSU for the contractual issues.

At this point why would Spanier risk anything with the criminal charges pending? It just doesn't make logical sense unless he truly has nothing to hide.
 
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