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Staff make up

cvilleelkscoach

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The biggest issue I see with the staff is the overall lack of experience. We have a DC in his third year and an OC in his first. We have a few position coaches with little big time experience or experience at their position. Penn State is a upper level P5 program. It can’t be a training ground. My guess is we have one of the most inexperienced staff at our level.

We are getting beat by programs that have far more experienced position coaches. Former head coaches, years as coordinators, nfl work, etc. Look what happened when we did bring in an experienced coach in Moorhead. He brought a maturity to the staff and to the locker room. The players say there was a huge change across the entire team when he was hired.

I like James, I like him a lot. My wife and I have gotten to know him pretty well over the past couple of years. He needs to reassess his hiring of position coaches. It’s not like recruiting where you are looking for future potential. Coaches need results now, it’s not a development program. The experience will help in the meeting rooms, the planning, on the practice field and in game.

The thing I learned after years of coaching is how to not panic, how to make changes based on my history and experience not guessing or analysis paralysis. Clearly our offensive staff is not there yet.

I think James will figure this out and he will have to make tough decisions that may impact his friends. But business needs to come first.
 
You do bring up a pretty interesting point that only 4 of the coaches even played at FBS schools while in college Pry did play at Buffalo but not sure it was FBS at the time. But most of them have not coached in big leagues of football other then ones who were with Franklin at Vanderbilt so I can kinda see where you are coming from that these coaches might no how to get to the elite level because they have never been around themselves to see how it works.
 
The biggest issue I see with the staff is the overall lack of experience. We have a DC in his third year and an OC in his first. We have a few position coaches with little big time experience or experience at their position. Penn State is a upper level P5 program. It can’t be a training ground. My guess is we have one of the most inexperienced staff at our level.

We are getting beat by programs that have far more experienced position coaches. Former head coaches, years as coordinators, nfl work, etc. Look what happened when we did bring in an experienced coach in Moorhead. He brought a maturity to the staff and to the locker room. The players say there was a huge change across the entire team when he was hired.

I like James, I like him a lot. My wife and I have gotten to know him pretty well over the past couple of years. He needs to reassess his hiring of position coaches. It’s not like recruiting where you are looking for future potential. Coaches need results now, it’s not a development program. The experience will help in the meeting rooms, the planning, on the practice field and in game.

The thing I learned after years of coaching is how to not panic, how to make changes based on my history and experience not guessing or analysis paralysis. Clearly our offensive staff is not there yet.

I think James will figure this out and he will have to make tough decisions that may impact his friends. But business needs to come first.
There’s a reason why James’ staff is so “inexperienced”.

James is like that really hot/attractive, but insecure, female who decides to purposely befriend unattractive females so that she appears to be the “prettiest” when they go out as a group.

“James from Port Matilda” is actually a very insecure individual who doesn’t like having coaches around him who are “smarter” than he (not a particularly high hurdle). James was threatened by Moorhead’s “Rock Star” status and was pleased to see him move on.

I’m tired of the incompetency....It’s Rhule Time :)
 
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Can Rhule bring in Durkin?

Maybe bring back Tom Bradley?

How about David Duke? (Is he still alive)
Now you’re just being overtly stupid, which in your case isn’t difficult. Bradley was never a good DC...bend, break and repeat.
 
The biggest issue I see with the staff is the overall lack of experience. We have a DC in his third year and an OC in his first. We have a few position coaches with little big time experience or experience at their position. Penn State is a upper level P5 program. It can’t be a training ground. My guess is we have one of the most inexperienced staff at our level.

We are getting beat by programs that have far more experienced position coaches. Former head coaches, years as coordinators, nfl work, etc. Look what happened when we did bring in an experienced coach in Moorhead. He brought a maturity to the staff and to the locker room. The players say there was a huge change across the entire team when he was hired.

I like James, I like him a lot. My wife and I have gotten to know him pretty well over the past couple of years. He needs to reassess his hiring of position coaches. It’s not like recruiting where you are looking for future potential. Coaches need results now, it’s not a development program. The experience will help in the meeting rooms, the planning, on the practice field and in game.

The thing I learned after years of coaching is how to not panic, how to make changes based on my history and experience not guessing or analysis paralysis. Clearly our offensive staff is not there yet.

I think James will figure this out and he will have to make tough decisions that may impact his friends. But business needs to come first.

we lost more than Joe Moorehead. he took an experienced coach, and we lost Josh Gattis - experienced and a recruiter. the replacements are not close in experience to who they replaced. that is not typical in a climbing program. we should elevate with each new hire.
 
we lost more than Joe Moorehead. he took an experienced coach, and we lost Josh Gattis - experienced and a recruiter. the replacements are not close in experience to who they replaced. that is not typical in a climbing program. we should elevate with each new hire.

You just keep plugging, dummie. Compare the experience levels of Huff to Seider and Gattis to Corley and your "not close" comment is like you, full of shit.
 
The “replacements” may not be nearly at the level of the “departed”....... in at least one case (and maybe more), probably not.

That said - as to the genius-time hypothesis, presented as FACT:

Years of D1 Experience before taking over as PSU OC / WR Coach / RB Coach
Moorhead - 8
Gattis - 3
Huff - 3

Replaced by:

Rahne - 11
Corley - 4
Seider - 7



I will never be able to reckon folks who make such clearly and provable “flat out freaking wrong and idiotic” statements - - - - when the truth, even if one is a lazy idiot, is so easy to find.
It has to include a complete and utter disregard for what the truth may be...... in lieu of just having an inane “take”, no matter how wrong it may be.
I think the comment wasn't "experience" but experience at the level where they are now coaching at PSU.

Personally, IDK, but some of the coaching decision that have been made are mind boggling. Just this week:
  • Decision to start Trace
  • Decision to stick with Trace
  • No time for Stevens in practice with the first team in the run up to the game
  • timeout with a minute left on 4th and 17 from midfield
I also feel that we over think things. The decision to take the ball on offense to start the game is different than almost any other coach at this level. I get we had a good offense and it made sense to establish it, but it hasn't paid off this year against the big boys.

Regardless, CJF needs to evaluate his staff. We have obvious personnel weaknesses this year at TE, DT and LBer. But areas where we should be strong haven't panned out like WR, RB, and OL. Not being there to see the day to day, I have no idea. But I can certainly see the trends and issues that are not being corrected. CJF will need to tweak the staff.
 
I think the comment wasn't "experience" but experience at the level where they are now coaching at PSU.

Personally, IDK, but some of the coaching decision that have been made are mind boggling. Just this week:
  • Decision to start Trace
  • Decision to stick with Trace
  • No time for Stevens in practice with the first team in the run up to the game
  • timeout with a minute left on 4th and 17 from midfield
I also feel that we over think things. The decision to take the ball on offense to start the game is different than almost any other coach at this level. I get we had a good offense and it made sense to establish it, but it hasn't paid off this year against the big boys.

Regardless, CJF needs to evaluate his staff. We have obvious personnel weaknesses this year at TE, DT and LBer. But areas where we should be strong haven't panned out like WR, RB, and OL. Not being there to see the day to day, I have no idea. But I can certainly see the trends and issues that are not being corrected. CJF will need to tweak the staff.

FWIW ...
While its certainly been CJFs MO to choose to receive the opening kick off... Michgan won the toss and elected to defer. Hes never going to not receive in that situation
 
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