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Oregon QB, 6 years as student, does he attend any classes, guess he has a massive NIL allocation. Same with the Colorado Stars, big money any classes.
Question, is there a requirement for the "student athletes to attend class and achieve grades?
 
Oregon QB, 6 years as student, does he attend any classes, guess he has a massive NIL allocation. Same with the Colorado Stars, big money any classes.
Question, is there a requirement for the "student athletes to attend class and achieve grades?
Good question. I suspect they have to be enrolled and making "academic progress". The problem is academic progress is loosely defined and classes/majors are created to keep the players eligible more than to actually provide life/career skills.
 
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Oregon QB, 6 years as student, does he attend any classes, guess he has a massive NIL allocation. Same with the Colorado Stars, big money any classes.
Question, is there a requirement for the "student athletes to attend class and achieve grades?
Search Travis Hunter GPA
You probably shouldn't be bashing kids that you know nothing about who are excellent students
Something you should know as he was an Academic All-American last year
 
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You probably shouldn't be bashing kids that you know nothing about who are excellent students
Something you should know as he was an Academic All-American last year
Not bashing anyone, questioning policy, one of the Colorado kids bragged he has never entered a classroom, maybe online learning.
 
Not bashing anyone, questioning policy, one of the Colorado kids bragged he has never entered a classroom, maybe online learning.
You absolutely were going after Hunter when you said "Colorado stars"--just own it that you had no clue he's actually a great student
And Sanders can take all online classes if he wants--it's still education even if you don't like it.
But regardless--the answer to your question is "yes, they're obviously going to class"
 
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You absolutely were going after Hunter when you said "Colorado stars"--just own it that you had no clue he's actually a great student
And Sanders can take all online classes if he wants--it's still education even if you don't like it.
But regardless--the answer to your question is "yes, they're obviously going to class"
There are more **** at Colorado than Hunter. This is a general question about NIL and academics, I doubt you know what is going on at Colorado or any other school. Was reported one of the "students" bought a Rolls.
 
There are more **** at Colorado than Hunter. This is a general question about NIL and academics, I doubt you know what is going on at Colorado or any other school. Was reported one of the "students" bought a Rolls.
There's two--they have two stars at Colorado. Sanders and Hunter--you said "stars" not Sanders
Who cares if they bought a Rolls--they're earning money for what they've done to increase the visibility of Colorado's football program--they should be getting paid
You don't have to like the system but you can't complain about the kids in this--they're earning their money simply by playing
Had we started paying them 40 years ago when we should have it may be more controlled but many wanted to continue to pretend this hasn't been a pro sport for decades.
 
There's two--they have two stars at Colorado. Sanders and Hunter--you said "stars" not Sanders
Who cares if they bought a Rolls--they're earning money for what they've done to increase the visibility of Colorado's football program--they should be getting paid
You don't have to like the system but you can't complain about the kids in this--they're earning their money simply by playing
Had we started paying them 40 years ago when we should have it may be more controlled but many wanted to continue to pretend this hasn't been a pro sport for decades.
you mis
There's two--they have two stars at Colorado. Sanders and Hunter--you said "stars" not Sanders
Who cares if they bought a Rolls--they're earning money for what they've done to increase the visibility of Colorado's football program--they should be getting paid
You don't have to like the system but you can't complain about the kids in this--they're earning their money simply by playing
Had we started paying them 40 years ago when we should have it may be more controlled but many wanted to continue to pretend this hasn't been a pro sport for decades.
You completely miss the point, the
Question, is there a requirement for the "student athletes to attend class and achieve grades?
Doubt you have any knowledge into the grading system at Colorado, this applies to all schools shelling out big NIL money. The Colorado
kids have advertised their largesse.
 
You completely miss the point, the
Question, is there a requirement for the "student athletes to attend class and achieve grades?
Doubt you have any knowledge into the grading system at Colorado, this applies to all schools shelling out big NIL money. The Colorado
kids have advertised their largesse.
Yes, that's the requirement--where are you getting anything else?
Sanders attends online classes like many other college students in 2024
Why are you fixated on Colorado? Do you think our players aren't being paid and aren't in similar situations
When you make a point but you incorrect criticize someone (again Colorado has 2 star players and you said stars) then your point isn't being made properly. Hunter is a great student while making huge NIL money.
I'm still don't understand why you're upset about Colorado players getting paid--Sanders has money from dad--he doesn't even need NIL money. And Hunter, the only other guy you can be taking about, is a great student. Name names
 
The good teams are playing 14+ games now. Every entity surrounding them is making massive amounts of money off them.
You can't pay these kids enough at this point.
The tuition is their payment sentiment is a joke.
Yeah, tell that bullsh&t to all the working families in America struggling to get by. Freshman getting millions before even playing a game. Yeah, they can't get paid enough.
 
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Yeah, tell that bullsh&t to all the working families in America struggling to get by. Freshman getting millions before even playing a game. Yeah, they can't get paid enough.
Those "working families" don't have a skillset this kids have--fact not opinion
Life isn't fair
 
Yeah, tell that bullsh&t to all the working families in America struggling to get by. Freshman getting millions before even playing a game. Yeah, they can't get paid enough.
I agree with you. These kids should have to declare all NIL $, and then only receive need and/or academic merit based financial aid, like every other STUDENT. Since the athletic scholarship for tuition is viewed as a "pittance" by some, let's change the system to align to the current state of affairs.
 
I agree with you. These kids should have to declare all NIL $, and then only receive need and/or academic merit based financial aid, like every other STUDENT. Since the athletic scholarship for tuition is viewed as a "pittance" by some, let's change the system to align to the current state of affairs.
You realize the courts ruled on this, right? NIL has no impact on a scholarship and legally can't.
 
Oregon QB, 6 years as student, does he attend any classes, guess he has a massive NIL allocation. Same with the Colorado Stars, big money any classes.
Question, is there a requirement for the "student athletes to attend class and achieve grades?
I have a relative who is a professor at Pitt. He is currently teaching a class where 2 senior football players haven't shown up to class, taken an exam or turned in any work at all. He went through the process to let the designated athletic liason know. Hasn't even heard back from them. The FB players will be failing the class. Yeah, it probably happens at a lot of schools. There's not a lot of NFL talent at Pitt, so these guys will likely soon be out of school without degrees, and no future in professional football.
 
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I have a relative who is a professor at Pitt. He is currently teaching a class where 2 senior football players haven't shown up to class, taken an exam or turned in any work at all. He went through the process to let the designated athletic liason know. Hasn't even heard back from them. The FB players will be failing the class. Yeah, it probably happens at a lot of schools. There's not a lot of NFL talent at Pitt, so these guys will likely soon be out of school without degrees, and no future in professional football.
Life is full of choices
Their problem
 
There are more **** at Colorado than Hunter. This is a general question about NIL and academics, I doubt you know what is going on at Colorado or any other school. Was reported one of the "students" bought a Rolls.
When Carson Beck was struggling, GA fans had seen enough of “LamboBoy”. I guess it was reported the he drives a Lamborghini around campus in Athens.
 
Sheduer Sanders is a total douchebag but he's a good quarterback. Don't hate because he doesn't act like Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow dreams about being as good a QB as Sheduer.
Yeah, tell that bullsh&t to all the working families in America struggling to get by. Freshman getting millions before even playing a game. Yeah, they can't get paid enough.
What does that have to do with the amount of money everything is making off these kids?
Seriously, what's the relation?
Tell it to your cable TV provider who is directly linked to it.
 
The good teams are playing 14+ games now. Every entity surrounding them is making massive amounts of money off them.
You can't pay these kids enough at this point.
The tuition is their payment sentiment is a joke.
IMO College Sports should be played by "real" college students. I realize that ship has sailed but it doesn't make it right.

There was never a shortage of kids who wanted to play college football before the NIL mess. Heck, high school kids PAY $90,000 per year to attend schools like IMG academy.
 
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Sheduer Sanders is a total douchebag but he's a good quarterback. Don't hate because he doesn't act like Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow dreams about being as good a QB as Sheduer.

What does that have to do with the amount of money everything is making off these kids?
Seriously, what's the relation?
Tell it to your cable TV provider who is directly linked to it.
I'll tell ya what it has to do. It keeps raising ticket and streaming prices. Who pays for that? It raises hotel and restaurant prices. It's all connected. Then, folks expect alumni and others to pay NIL funds. Meanwhile, they're paying off their own student loans, if they even went to Penn State or college, while trying to take care of their own family and their college expenses.

It's nonsense, and needs a salary cap type system just like the NFL. Not only should the university pay for it, but it will level the playing field. Athletes can still do their own NIL, but to expect fans to pay for it is nonsense.
 
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IMO College Sports should be played by "real" college students. I realize that ship has sailed but it doesn't make it right.

There was never a shortage of kids who wanted to play college football before the NIL mess. Heck, high school kids PAY $90,000 per year to attend schools like IMG academy.
To be fair, just because people are willing to play without being compensated doesn't mean they shouldn't be
 
I'll tell ya what it has to do. It keeps raising ticket and streaming prices. Who pays for that? It raises hotel and restaurant prices. It's all connected. Then, folks expect alumni and others to pay NIL funds. Meanwhile, they're paying off their own student loans, if they even went to Penn State or college, while trying to take care of their own family and their college expenses.

It's nonsense, and needs a salary cap type system just like the NFL. Not only should the university pay for it, but it will level the playing field. Athletes can still do their own NIL, but to expect fans to pay for it is nonsense.
NFL players make a ton of money with NIL outside the cap
The schools are going to be paying players with a cap then they'll still go where NIL is the strongest
See MLB--no cap--people all go to big markets because of the money and NIL options
 
NFL players make a ton of money with NIL outside the cap
The schools are going to be paying players with a cap then they'll still go where NIL is the strongest
See MLB--no cap--people all go to big markets because of the money and NIL options
MLB has revenue sharing.
 
Michigan, literally, just bought a QB. Not many can do that. It's a failed system with no parameters.
 
I'll tell ya what it has to do. It keeps raising ticket and streaming prices. Who pays for that? It raises hotel and restaurant prices. It's all connected. Then, folks expect alumni and others to pay NIL funds. Meanwhile, they're paying off their own student loans, if they even went to Penn State or college, while trying to take care of their own family and their college expenses.

It's nonsense, and needs a salary cap type system just like the NFL. Not only should the university pay for it, but it will level the playing field. Athletes can still do their own NIL, but to expect fans to pay for it is nonsense.
None of that has anything to do with a kid getting NIL money.
The fan's lust for better seats, better facilities, nicer hotels and fancier dining experiences are what drives that. Not the kids getting paid. You've got to be kidding me. What does a kid playing Oklahoma State have to do with the price of your dinner? There is zero relation. None.
The athletic departments aren't even remotely sharing their revenues with kids, which was the original intent......Everyone is making money off me....Ed O'Bannon.
The money the kids get is coming from donors. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 
I'd love a better system but that ship has sailed--the courts have ruled
We have to accept what is--why complain about it? It's not going anyway and the NCAA can't do anything if they wanted
Franklin has to find more money if he wants to spend it. Step 1 is beating SMU. Step 2 is beating Boise State. Step 3 is finally beating a top 5 team if we play Georgia.
 
I have a relative who is a professor at Pitt. He is currently teaching a class where 2 senior football players haven't shown up to class, taken an exam or turned in any work at all. He went through the process to let the designated athletic liason know. Hasn't even heard back from them. The FB players will be failing the class. Yeah, it probably happens at a lot of schools. There's not a lot of NFL talent at Pitt, so these guys will likely soon be out of school without degrees, and no future in professional football.
College football players not attending class. In other news, most men like beer. Seriously, that scenario is not new. You could have posted that decades ago.
 
At some point in the not so distant future Penn State is going to need a donor to buy a top prospect in their traditional recruiting area. A Lavar Arrington or Caleb Williams type.
Are you fine with them pounding the billionaire alumni donor pool for it?
Doesn't cost anyone, but one, a cent?
 
Oregon QB, 6 years as student, does he attend any classes, guess he has a massive NIL allocation. Same with the Colorado Stars, big money any classes.
Question, is there a requirement for the "student athletes to attend class and achieve grades?
At some schools, no there isn't. Kids an do 'world campus' type learning with the help of their advisors and be fine. These are not engineering majors or anyone who will have to do lab work though. I've had student athletes play their sport in college and have very little interaction with professors, lots of recorded lectures and one on one or small group tutoring. Baseball players miss so much of spring semester that many of them are almost all on line classes in the spring.

As far as Colorado goes, one of my best friends from HS and PSU lives out there and he said that the school and city are so happy with what Deion has done for their school/area in terms of $ that they dont even care if his kids go to class.
 
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Athletics should be disconnected from academics. I feel very confident that at many schools, some athletes do little or no real academic. They don't want to do academic work. They schools don't want them to do academic work since they'd rather focus on football. It's a joke, and at a time when confidence in universities was falling already.

Thousands of guys go in the portal every year. When is the last time you heard a player wanted to portal to School X but couldn't because his academics weren't good enough? Academics are meaningless for this stuff. Just do away with the charade already,
 
Athletics should be disconnected from academics. I feel very confident that at many schools, some athletes do little or no real academic. They don't want to do academic work. They schools don't want them to do academic work since they'd rather focus on football. It's a joke, and at a time when confidence in universities was falling already.

Thousands of guys go in the portal every year. When is the last time you heard a player wanted to portal to School X but couldn't because his academics weren't good enough? Academics are meaningless for this stuff. Just do away with the charade already,
This is from about 5 years ago:

A kid I know was a walk-on at a major school, and he was telling the coaches that he was thinking of going into a pharmacy-related major. They told him that he shouldn't do that because it would involve lots of work and interfere with his football schedule, and that he should take an easier major.

The chances of this kid ever seeing more than a handful of snaps in his entire career were slim, but they clearly didn't care about his future.

Eventually he quit the team, and is close to finishing a Masters Degree.
 
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This is from about 5 years ago:

A kid I know was a walk-on at a major school, and he was telling the coaches that he was thinking of going into a pharmacy-related major. They told him that he shouldn't do that because it would involve lots of work and interfere with his football schedule, and that he should take an easier major.

The chances of this kid ever seeing more than a handful of snaps in his entire career were slim, but they clearly didn't care about his future.

Eventually he quit the team, and is close to finishing a Masters Degree.
They ought to just pay the kids what they're worth and then let them do what they want with the money, including being a college student if they want. But don't make them be full time. Maybe the kid in your scenario would have taken just a couple courses per semester, thereby making some progress towards his preferred degree, while also getting the experience of playing college football.
 
They ought to just pay the kids what they're worth and then let them do what they want with the money, including being a college student if they want. But don't make them be full time. Maybe the kid in your scenario would have taken just a couple courses per semester, thereby making some progress towards his preferred degree, while also getting the experience of playing college football.
Then let's talk about doing the correct thing here, which is establishing a minor league system for the NFL, completely separate from colleges/universities. That way the functionally illiterate players who don't make the NFL don't continue to make a mockery of higher learning.
 
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Oregon QB, 6 years as student, does he attend any classes, guess he has a massive NIL allocation. Same with the Colorado Stars, big money any classes.
Question, is there a requirement for the "student athletes to attend class and achieve grades?

I think the money may actually improve their academics.

But not much change imo with NIL
 
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