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Suriano's style & strategy with one good leg (lessons from A. Robles?)

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If Suriano's ankle is less than 90%, what might be the best way to adjust his style and strategy?

(a) Quick take down and ride for as long as possible?

(b) Wrestle from neutral on one knee?

(c) Work for reversals rather than escapes?

(d) Study the film on Anthony Robles, the former NCAA champ at 125 who was born with only one leg?

(e) Other options and thoughts? How much is it necessary to modify his style and approach?
 
Take top, never bottom. (Not comparing Nick to Anthony at all, this would be one strategy I would use given Nick's situation)
 
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1. Robles was born that way. For 19 years, Suriano has been accustomed to pushing off on that ankle, and his body moving forward without pain.
2. Robles had the weight of a leg dispersed around the rest of his body. Nick's upper body is the same size it has always been.
 
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pawrestlersintn said:
1. Robles was born that way. For 19 years, Suriano has been accustomed to pushing off on that ankle, and his body moving forward without pain.
2. Robles had the weight of a leg dispersed around the rest of his body. Nick's upper body is the same size it has always been.
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I guess when Robles wrestled it wasn't PC or something to mention that he had the upper body of a 141 or even 149 pounder. He sure wrestled great with one leg, though. Fun as hell to watch.
 
Nails' elite TD defense becomes even more critical entering the tourney w a bum ankle.

In a perfect world, if everything works out, he won't ever have to be on bottom until Friday night or even Saturday
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I personally think we will see nick use more tie ups and slow matches down. He is a very strong kid so I think it's doable.
 
dmm53 said:
If Suriano's ankle is less than 90%, what might be the best way to adjust his style and strategy?

(a) Quick take down and ride for as long as possible?

(b) Wrestle from neutral on one knee?

(c) Work for reversals rather than escapes?

(d) Study the film on Anthony Robles, the former NCAA champ at 125 who was born with only one leg?
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(e) Other options and thoughts? How much is it necessary to modify his style and approach?
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I really doubt this is transferable, Robles had the upper body strength of 149 pounder, and he wrestled his whole life on one leg.
 
Key is to change Nick's style as little necessary. You want others having to adjust to you -- not you having to adjust to a new style.

If he has to depart from his style, then a much less radical step would be Mason Beckman -- drop to a knee or 3-pt stance from distance on occasion, to throw the other guy off. But try to not wrestle from that position. Used to hate watching Beckman do it, but strategically could make sense.
 
I've never seen it talked about anywhere before because I thought it may have been taboo. And I've thought this for years. I tip my hat to Anthony. But that dude was built way bigger than a 125.

I'm hoping Nick really is good to go and can and will use the ankle.
 
my biggest worry is how other wrestlers are going to adapt to him. The way lightweights scramble these days by diving and twisting ankles makes me cringe. Shot selection is going to be very important because I think he needs to explode through them and not allow the other guy to drape over his torso and grab his ankle.
 
Not being insesitive but not having a leg affected the weight class he wrestled.
As such his upper body was one maybe two classes higher.
You have to balance that with loss of leverage etc. Cases are not similar.
 
Why do Pen St fans put him under an electronic microscope and delve deep into his every breath? Give this kid some breathing room and don't crush him with moronic fan postings.
 
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I think we're going to see him walk out, without any limping whatsoever, and wrestle his normal style on his feet. By the end of the tournament, the ankle could be very highly marginalized, but at tournament start it should be healed enough and wrapped enough not to necessitate any style adjustments.

IF he truly has to adjust his style at the very beginning of Nationals, I will guess that his chances of placing will be greatly minimized.
 
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nighthawk69 said:
I think it's not.
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Abro1975 said:
Why do Pen St fans put him under an electronic microscope and delve deep into his every breath? Give this kid some breathing room and don't crush him with moronic fan postings.
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Really? You are coming to a Penn State board withh your "Pen State" crap and you call other people's posts moronic?
 
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. You, sir, need to take more shots.
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Suriano's a hard-working kid he'll take plenty of shots. Won't known about his ankle until it's go time, and the strategy should be to take top as often as possible.
 
He'll need his ankle to create the necessary forward pressure from the top position. Without that forward pressure, he won't be able to stop the bottom man's first move off the whistle. We'll probably see him with a brace and a top notch tape job.
 
dropster45 said:
I think we're going to see him walk out, without any limping whatsoever, and wrestle his normal style on his feet. By the end of the tournament, the ankle could be very highly marginalized, but at tournament start it should be healed enough and wrapped enough not to necessitate any style adjustments.

IF he truly has to adjust his style at the very beginning of Nationals, I will guess that his chances of placing will be greatly minimized.
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Now you've got to go and say something completely non-looney and realistic - why did you have to do that?

Seriously, the thing that would help most is early falls - not only to keep the ankle fresh, but due to his conditioning after not wrestling for almost a month.
 
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pawrestlersintn said:
1. Robles was born that way. For 19 years, Suriano has been accustomed to pushing off on that ankle, and his body moving forward without pain.
2. Robles had the weight of a leg dispersed around the rest of his body. Nick's upper body is the same size it has always been.
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This. Robles looked like a 165lber or 174lber. Heck, he looked at big as some 184lbers this year, including Bo Nickal. He was HUGE.

When you are that big you can do whatever you want to any 125lber, including a returning champ.

Robles's senior year was the biggest advantage I've ever seen a wrestler have over the field. It was laughable.
 
jrd23psu said:
This. Robles looked like a 165lber or 174lber. Heck, he looked at big as some 184lbers this year, including Bo Nickal. He was HUGE.

When you are that big you can do whatever you want to any 125lber, including a returning champ.

Robles's senior year was the biggest advantage I've ever seen a wrestler have over the field. It was laughable.
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Then how come he only finished 4th the year before?

Robles was a very good wrestler, and I don't want to take anything from him. What he did out there wasn't any state secret, either. There were very few moves he was physically capable of executing. For 3 years, the best guys in the nation figured it out.
 
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