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Team reaction to N. Lee fall

For those of us who don't subscribe to Flo, can you summarize?

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That's awesome. LOVE how excited Cenzo was for his teammate.

I honestly feel badly for Jered. Injuries suck. At the same time, I think that if Nick Lee and his family wanted him to go this year, it would have been nearly impossible to keep the shirt on after his performance at The Scuffle.
 
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Everyone loves Pie.

I hope they remember these tasty morsels when they reflexively want to be anti-Pie


Pie has been known to be inconsistent.

Sometime you get the center filling. With ice cream.

Other times you’re left with a few crumbs. :cool:

Scuffle Pie has been Grandma’s homemade Apple, heated with extra vanilla ice cream. Quite yummy.
 
The guy right behind Cenzo/Zain looks like he wants to tell them down in front, but he also wants to keep his limbs.

Was that a Cenzo Special or another secret move?
 
The guy right behind Cenzo/Zain looks like he wants to tell them down in front, but he also wants to keep his limbs.

Was that a Cenzo Special or another secret move?
It's the same double overs Mark used during the Keystone Classic final just to the opposite side under way more intense circumstances.
 
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lol at ScufflePie.

Just rewatched match to try and figure out how Lee was able to stick Alber so cleanly. It seemed like Alber was the aggressor, looking body lock and actually being in pretty good position at the time he hooks his left leg to Lee's right. But Lee knew what Alber was trying to do and didn't hesitate to go double-overs. So both guys are basically in a roughly equivalent spot. The key is that Lee is more ready for the throw that Alber is, and as you can almost see in the crappy still frame screenshot below, his left foot is planted and he's pushing off. Alber's right foot isn't planted. So Lee managed to throw Alber a split second before Alber was prepared to throw Lee.

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Thinking about it, the sequence is similar to how Cenzo beat IMar: IMar initiated the inside trip but Cenzo immediately recognized it and executed it from a more leveraged place.
The throw Alber attempted involves exploding up and thru. As Alber stood, Lee anticipated and dropped his hips below Alber's + sank the leg.

At least that's what I saw on my office "4G" super slo mo.

Phenomenal timing, and some grapefruit sized cojones.
 
The throw Alber attempted involves exploding up and thru. As Alber stood, Lee anticipated and dropped his hips below Alber's + sank the leg.

At least that's what I saw on my office "4G" super slo mo.

Phenomenal timing, and some grapefruit sized cojones.
I don't see where Lee even dropped his hips. Look at screenshot above, if anything Lee might be even a bit higher than Alber at the beginning of the sequence. I think he was just faster than Alber, who probably didn't expect Lee to have the audacity/cojones.
 
Thinking about it, the sequence is similar to how Cenzo beat IMar: IMar initiated the inside trip but Cenzo immediately recognized it and executed it from a more leveraged place.
Agreed. IMar and Alber each initiated an outside trip, and both of them had their tripping foot swept away from them, unexpectedly, by the counter inside trip.

 
I don't see where Lee even dropped his hips. Look at screenshot above, if anything Lee might be even a bit higher than Alber at the beginning of the sequence. I think he was just faster than Alber, who probably didn't expect Lee to have the audacity/cojones.
I think it did not matter that Lee was not lower. What mattered was that Lee had an angle, and, as you said, Lee was ready to go first. Lee was prepared to throw earlier and in a direction that is sideways to Alber. Alber had only one foot planted (right foot), in a leg-orientation in which he could be strong going upward/backward but not sideways. Lee essentially swept Alber's (left) foot in mid-air sideways with respect to Alber, and Alber, just when he was supposed to push down on his planted (right) foot to arch and elevate for his own throw, instead had to hop his planted (right) foot to try to regain stability, but it was not enough.

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If I were still wrestling, I would form a hypothesis for exploration, from the Cenzo and Lee counter trips. I would play with the idea that if I feel my opponent trying to outside-trip me, I would try to sweep that tripping foot to destroy my opponent's position, because that tripping foot will likely be unweighted and susceptible to being swept. (Maybe this is a well-known thing; I wouldn't know--I only wrestled about 3 years and LOVED it but never got very good.)
 
If I were still wrestling, I would form a hypothesis for exploration, from the Cenzo and Lee counter trips. I would play with the idea that if I feel my opponent trying to outside-trip me, I would try to sweep that tripping foot to destroy my opponent's position, because that tripping foot will likely be unweighted and susceptible to being swept. (Maybe this is a well-known thing; I wouldn't know--I only wrestled about 3 years and LOVED it but never got very good.)
In other words, if I'm initiating my own trip, maybe it would be unlikely for me to be able to sweep the guy's leg that I'm tripping, because that leg might be weighted a decent amount. However, if I'm making a counter-trip, then not only would I try to trip the other guy's tripping leg, but I would try to sweep it since it's likely to be very lightly weighted or unweighted.
 
I think it did not matter that Lee was not lower. What mattered was that Lee had an angle, and, as you said, Lee was ready to go first. Lee was prepared to throw earlier and in a direction that is sideways to Alber. Alber had only one foot planted, in a leg-orientation in which he could be strong going upward/backward but not sideways. Lee essentially swept Alber's foot in mid-air sideways with respect to Alber, and Alber, just when he was supposed to push down on his planted foot to arch and elevate for his own throw, instead had to hop his planted foot to try to regain stability, but it was not enough.

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did the ref incorrectly signal for TD 2 for Alber?
 
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Pie has been known to be inconsistent.

Sometime you get the center filling. With ice cream.

Other times you’re left with a few crumbs. :cool:

Scuffle Pie has been Grandma’s homemade Apple, heated with extra vanilla ice cream. Quite yummy.
I don’t live anywhere near an Eat’n Park anymore, but I used to always get the apple pie with cinnamon ice cream. These clips have been that good.
 
The guy right behind Cenzo/Zain looks like he wants to tell them down in front, but he also wants to keep his limbs.

Was that a Cenzo Special or another secret move?
That dude does have a uni sweatshirt on. Explains why he looks less than pleased haha.
 
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If I were still wrestling, I would form a hypothesis for exploration, from the Cenzo and Lee counter trips. I would play with the idea that if I feel my opponent trying to outside-trip me, I would try to sweep that tripping foot to destroy my opponent's position, because that tripping foot will likely be unweighted and susceptible to being swept. (Maybe this is a well-known thing; I wouldn't know--I only wrestled about 3 years and LOVED it but never got very good.)
If I were still wrestling I would just try and stay away from all animals wearing blue with a white stripe.
 
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