Teasdale wrestling in Iowa's first dual

[mrh1645]

There has been a lot of speculation regarding if Gavin can wrestle the first semester and, if so, what the Iowa line-up looks like at 133 and 141. At Iowa's media day, Brands indicated that Gavin would wrestle in the opening dual vs. Tenn-Chat on Nov 17th. See last question in link below:

https://iawrestle.com/2019/10/30/tom-brands-wrestling-media-transcript/

 

[NoVa Lion]

There has been a lot of speculation regarding if Gavin can wrestle the first semester and, if so, what the Iowa line-up looks like at 133 and 141. At Iowa's media day, Brands indicated that Gavin would wrestle in the opening dual vs. Tenn-Chat on Nov 17th. See last question in link below:

https://iawrestle.com/2019/10/30/tom-brands-wrestling-media-transcript/

I notice he doesn't say what weight Teasdale will be wrestling.

 

[matter7172]

I notice he doesn't say what weight Teasdale will be wrestling.

149 - thereby showing HR knows what it is talking about and can see the future.

 

[bigs22]

This is interesting. To me this means one of two things: Either Teasdale is definitely going this year or Iowa really doesn’t think they can get around using a redshirt last year.

 

[1032004]

This is interesting. To me this means one of two things: Either Teasdale is definitely going this year or Iowa really doesn’t think they can get around using a redshirt last year.

Well I think it was already clear they “don’t think they can get around using a redshirt last year,” seeing as how he’s listed as a RS FR on the roster. But I’m sure they’ll try to get it as a medical later (which based on recent history will likely be approved).

 

[Sportfan2017]

I notice he doesn't say what weight Teasdale will be wrestling.

Perhaps at 420? Lord....I apologize...….I'll be in timeout

 

[funkisfun12]

Perhaps at 420? Lord....I apologize...….I'll be in timeout

Similar comments were common on the HR , of course before said wrestler returned to the land of corn. Now, naturally he's with the right coaches and working Desanto like a Grand Canyon tour mule.

 

[bigs22]

Well I think it was already clear they “don’t think they can get around using a redshirt last year,” seeing as how he’s listed as a RS FR on the roster. But I’m sure they’ll try to get it as a medical later (which based on recent history will likely be approved).

I don’t read much into the roster, they have Kemerer listed as a RS SR and they clearly think he will get a year back. This is just my opinion, but unless he has undeniably claimed a starting role in the room I would have thought they would slow play Gavin in some Opens and at Midlands then decide to go or not after that if they thought they were getting that year back as a medical down the road.

 

[Sportfan2017]

Similar comments were common on the HR , of course before said wrestler returned to the land of corn. Now, naturally he's with the right coaches and working Desanto like a Grand Canyon tour mule.

By all accounts....he seems to have made changes to get on the right path. If he is wrestling the first Iowa dual....he must also have his academics in order as well. Good for him. Except for the PSU dual, Big Tens and Nationals.....I'll be rooting for him.

 

[Brian LB-U]

By all accounts....he seems to have made changes to get on the right path. If he is wrestling the first Iowa dual....he must also have his academics in order as well. Good for him. Except for the PSU dual, Big Tens and Nationals.....I'll be rooting for him.

Not that there are many accounts to be had but yeah, nice to see he's getting a second chance.

 

[1032004]

I don’t read much into the roster, they have Kemerer listed as a RS SR and they clearly think he will get a year back. This is just my opinion, but unless he has undeniably claimed a starting role in the room I would have thought they would slow play Gavin in some Opens and at Midlands then decide to go or not after that if they thought they were getting that year back as a medical down the road.

But Kemerer did redshirt a year...

A medical and regular redshirt are two different things. I’m sure they tried to not have last year count as Teasdale’s regular redshirt, but doesn’t seem like they were successful. I’m sure that decision would’ve been made prior to the start of the season.

 

[bigs22]

But Kemerer did redshirt a year...

A medical and regular redshirt are two different things. I’m sure they tried to not have last year count as Teasdale’s regular redshirt, but doesn’t seem like they were successful. I’m sure that decision would’ve been made prior to the start of the season.

I know Kemerer redshirted. I’m just saying that they are treating him like a RsJR with the medical coming, but still list him as a RsSR. It seems like schools only get info on medical redshirts after eligibility runs out (like with Cassar, Conel, and Shak this year) so they wouldn’t know one way or another on Teasdale yet.

 

[matter7172]

I know Kemerer redshirted. I’m just saying that they are treating him like a RsJR with the medical coming, but still list him as a RsSR. It seems like schools only get info on medical redshirts after eligibility runs out (like with Cassar, Conel, and Shak this year) so they wouldn’t know one way or another on Teasdale yet.

Pretty sure you still need to lose two seasons with injuries to get one back.

 

[nitlion6]

Pretty sure you still need to lose two seasons with injuries to get one back.

Used to be.
Kemmerer lost last year, but I bet he gets next year.
Used to be you might get a single year back, Cassar can have 2 if he wishes to watch HR implode.
Things are changing

 

[matter7172]

Used to be.
Kemmerer lost last year, but I bet he gets next year.
Used to be you might get a single year back, Cassar can have 2 if he wishes to watch HR implode.
Things are changing

Cassar lost three seasons to injury. We'll have to see. There's not a lot of wiggle room to allow for a one-for-one exchange in the rule as I see it. But with the NCAA, we'll never truly know.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Used to be.
Kemmerer lost last year, but I bet he gets next year.
Used to be you might get a single year back, Cassar can have 2 if he wishes to watch HR implode.
Things are changing

Yeah, it used to be you had to miss 2 seasons to injury to have any shot at a 6th year. Now they are handing them out to pretty much anyone that applies. Cassar got a 6th AND 7th season, although it sounds like he doesn't plan to use the 7th.

 

[bigs22]

Did Ashnault miss two years? I only remember the one and I don’t think he was hurt his Redshirt year.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Did Ashnault miss two years? I only remember the one and I don’t think he was hurt his Redshirt year.

Ashnault is a prime example. He took a regular redshirt as a true frosh and then missed his RS Senior year to injury and got a 6th year, so he only missed one year to injury.

 

[dicemen99]

Ashnault is a prime example. He took a regular redshirt as a true frosh and then missed his RS Senior year to injury and got a 6th year, so he only missed one year to injury.

Ashnault missed a large portion of his RS year as a true frosh due to injury.

He wrestled in November and then did not wrestle again until the NCO.

In the past, wrestling again at the end of the year would have disqualified him from being granted a medical redshirt, but the NCO is not an NCAA event so hard to tell if that had an impact or not.

It's not cut and dry in Ashnault's case that losing only one year to injury can result in a 6th year being granted.

There are a lot of assumptions made here AND especially elsewhere, but these are reviewed on a case by case basis without the public being aware of the facts presented so we really dont know if someone is going to get an extra year until the case has been decided.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Ashnault missed a large portion of his RS year as a true frosh due to injury.

He wrestled in November and then did not wrestle again until the NCO.

In the past, wrestling again at the end of the year would have disqualified him from being granted a medical redshirt, but the NCO is not an NCAA event so hard to tell if that had an impact or not.

It's not cut and dry in Ashnault's case that losing only one year to injury can result in a 6th year being granted.

There are a lot of assumptions made here AND especially elsewhere, but these are reviewed on a case by case basis without the public being aware of the facts presented so we really dont know if someone is going to get an extra year until the case has been decided.

All of that is beside the point. Ashnault did NOT miss his true frosh year due to an injury and that USED to be the standard that to get a 6th year you needed to miss two years due to injury, which Ashnault DID NOT.

 

[TangSoo]

There could be another possibility here. They lost DeSanto in the corn maze.

 

[nitlion6]

All of that is beside the point. Ashnault did NOT miss his true frosh year due to an injury and that USED to be the standard that to get a 6th year you needed to miss two years due to injury, which Ashnault DID NOT.

Whether or not you believe he lost his freshman season to injury has nothing to do with it. He did not compete in the second half of the season and there is medical documentation for treatment of an injury.

Still, yes you are right the NCAA has become much more lenient dispersing 6th and now 7th eligibility years lost to injury.

 

[SWPA]

Whether or not you believe he lost his freshman season to injury has nothing to do with it. He did not compete in the second half of the season and there is medical documentation for treatment of an injury.

Still, yes you are right the NCAA has become much more lenient dispersing 6th and now 7th eligibility years lost to injury.

Medical documentation or a Dake Dr. Note?

 

[nitlion6]

Medical documentation or a Dake Dr. Note?

A Dake doctor's note is in the same realm as, "wait, we need a couple lawyers and an appellate justice to decide if that was really a two."

At least in the past, medical documentation from 5 years ago was probably not intended for the use of gaining an extra year of eligibility. Moving forward, that probably isn't always going to be the case.

Of course Cornell is a pretty good school, so Cornell wrestling probably has access to plenty of helpful doctors and lawyers.

 

[1032004]

I know Kemerer redshirted. I’m just saying that they are treating him like a RsJR with the medical coming, but still list him as a RsSR. It seems like schools only get info on medical redshirts after eligibility runs out (like with Cassar, Conel, and Shak this year) so they wouldn’t know one way or another on Teasdale yet.

Yeah so I’m still not following why you think there might’ve been a chance Teasdale could’ve been granted ability to use a regular redshirt in November.