The Collapse of Democrat Political Machines

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If you look at the Senate seats that Democrats are trying to flip and the ones they are in danger of losing, it is interesting that they center around the five states Democrats magically "flipped" from Trump to Biden in the wee hours after the 2020 election.

While there is no Michigan Senator running this election cycle, Wisconsin, PA, Arizona, and Georgia are the close races that Dems and the media have focused on most. What a coincidence. These just happen to be the same states where all the questionable voter shenanigans happened in November of 2020. You can throw in Nevada as an additional state dominated by a large population center (Los Vegas in this case) which has a highly effective Democrat political machine (the Reid machine).

These political machines are losing their influence because 1. we are now watching closely for voter fraud and it's more risky to be associated with it, 2. these cities have been under attack by the left (riots, looting, "protest") and rising crime for the past few years, 3. things are so bad under Democrats right now that there are fewer people willing to man these political armies.

IF these political machines continue to decline.. along with ones in Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota and even Illinois.. many "blue states" will be competitive for the GOP and it will be lights out for the Democrats.
 
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Interesting point, but the five states you cite are in contention for flipping, but mostly not for the reasons you cite. The five states you cite are competitive now in every cycle, reflecting the very tight, polarized nature of the general electorate, and decades of population changes and shifts. Nevada was Solid R for decades (before Harry Reid, there was Laxalt's father), and has recent been D due to the rise of minorities employed in the gaming and hospitality industries; now some of those Latinos are more conservative than other Latino groups, not a monolith, and Nevada is very competitive. Some, like PA, have flipped senate seats back and forth for decades. Hugh Scott/John Heinz/Santorum sold R seat is now solid D with Casey (and did flip for Wofford in a special). The other seat was a solid R for decades (Schweiker and Spector, then Toomey), and now its competitive. Of the ones you cite, I would definitely say Wisconsin fits your definition of a Dem machine losing its grip. Indeed, GA and AZ were very R, and are now very purple due to many demographic and population changes...is the R machine in those states losing its grip?
But for sure, I agree with you that Wisconsin Dems have major issues in their messaging, candidates, and influence. The NY Gov race, with Zeldin neck and neck with Hochul, is another that fits your definition of a Dem machine losing its grip. Dems do have some issues with their "machines".
 
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Interesting point, but the five states you cite are in contention for flipping, but mostly not for the reasons you cite. The five states you cite are competitive now in every cycle, reflecting the very tight, polarized nature of the general electorate, and decades of population changes and shifts. Nevada was Solid R for decades (before Harry Reid, there was Laxalt's father), and has recent been D due to the rise of minorities employed in the gaming and hospitality industries; now some of those Latinos are more conservative than other Latino groups, not a monolith, and Nevada is very competitive. Some, like PA, have flipped senate seats back and forth for decades. Hugh Scott/John Heinz/Santorum sold R seat is now solid D with Casey (and did flip for Wofford in a special). The other seat was a solid R for decades (Schweiker and Spector, then Toomey), and now its competitive. Of the ones you cite, I would definitely say Wisconsin fits your definition of a Dem machine losing its grip. Indeed, GA and AZ were very R, and are now very purple due to many demographic and population changes...is the R machine in those states losing its grip?
But for sure, I agree with you that Wisconsin Dems have major issues in their messaging, candidates, and influence. The NY Gov race, with Zeldin neck and neck with Hochul, is another that fits your definition of a Dem machine losing its grip. Dems do have some issues with their "machines".

Face it. Most Americans aren't into abortion extremism like the individuals you vote for.
 

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If you look at the Senate seats that Democrats are trying to flip and the ones they are in danger of losing, it is interesting that they center around the five states Democrats magically "flipped" from Trump to Biden in the wee hours after the 2020 election.

While there is no Michigan Senator running this election cycle, Wisconsin, PA, Arizona, and Georgia are the close races that Dems and the media have focused on most. What a coincidence. These just happen to be the same states where all the questionable voter shenanigans happened in November of 2020. You can throw in Nevada as an additional state dominated by a large population center (Los Vegas in this case) which has a highly effective Democrat political machine (the Reid machine).

These political machines are losing their influence because 1. we are now watching closely for voter fraud and it's more risky to be associated with it, 2. these cities have been under attack by the left (riots, looting, "protest") and rising crime for the past few years, 3. things are so bad under Democrats right now that there are fewer people to man these political armies.

IF these political machines continue to decline.. along with ones in Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota and even Illinois.. many "blue states" will be competitive for the GOP and it will be lights out for the Democrats.
As you well know there was no voter fraud. Why do you continue to spread those lies? It just makes you look ignorant.

Or, maybe you just are ignorant.
 

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Face it. Most Americans aren't into abortion extremism like the individuals you vote for.
Knoxy...that has nothing to do with the OP or my reply to PSkippy (escapee)...
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As you well know there was no voter fraud. Why do you continue to spread those lies? It just makes you look ignorant.

Or, maybe you just are ignorant.
My post didn't say anything about "voter fraud" per say. Large, city-based political machines have been around for over a century and a half and are in precipitous decline. Hence, states officially won by Biden and Democrats are suddenly competitive for the GOP.

Look at Virginia and New Jersey last year. Now we have a ton of others and the trend will continue into 2024 and 2026. As for voter fraud, of course there is voter fraud, ya dumb ninny.

All those years Barrack Obama spent "community organizing" are going down the tubes as those same urban centers are battered relentlessly by Democrat policies and tactics (like rioting and defunding the police).
 

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My post didn't say anything about "voter fraud" per say. Large, city-based political machines have been around for over a century and a half and are in precipitous decline. Hence, states officially won by Biden and Democrats are suddenly competitive for the GOP.

Look at Virginia and New Jersey last year. Now we have a ton of others and the trend will continue into 2024 and 2026. As for voter fraud, of course there is voter fraud, ya dumb ninny.

All those years Barrack Obama spent "community organizing" are going down the tubes as those same urban centers are battered relentlessly by Democrat policies and tactics (like rioting and defunding the police).
The entire democrat party is a grift depending on voter fraud to enrich themselves similar to a mob family. Certain folk are good earners and help deliver votes , money , and power.
It’s nothing more than a commie money and power grab.
 

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The entire democrat party is a grift depending on voter fraud to enrich themselves similar to a mob family. Certain folk are good earners and help deliver votes , money , and power.
It’s nothing more than a commie money and power grab.
Major American cities have become like the Alamo for Democrats. The vast majority of their party's support is confined to the big cities, even in Red States. Make a list of the top 50 largest cities and you will find this is where about 90% of Democrat Congressional Districts are located.

Dems made a very bad choice to riot, loot, burn and defund police protection in these areas. It is going to cost them. Bigly.
 
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Major American cities have become like the Alamo for Democrats. The vast majority of their party's support is confined to the big cities, even in Red States. Make a list of the top 50 largest cities and you will find this is where about 90% of Democrat Congressional Districts are located.

Dems made a very bad choice to riot, loot, burn and defund police protection in these areas. It is going to cost them. Bigly.
Very true