Games will be played in Orlando, Fl., Austin Tx., and Tuscon, Ar. Tie ins with Mountain West, Conference USA, American Athletic Conf, and Sun Belt Conf. That brings the number of bowl games to 42. More games I will not watch.
The greed of he NCAA continues. They have approved three more bowl games.
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How does this financially help the NCAA? Or are you referring to "greed" in a non-financial form?
I agree it's silly, but don't see how this helps or hinders the NCAA as an organization.
I agree it's silly, but don't see how this helps or hinders the NCAA as an organization.
I can remember the early 80s when a team needed eight wins to even be considered for a bowl game. Even at that, sometimes an eight win team was thought to be suspect.
At some point, the math stops working.
42 Bowl games, 84 teams invited. Out of how many Div 1-A teams? 120 or so? Wouldn't mathematics kinda dictate that only ~40% (about 50) of teams have a winning (7 wins or more) record? That leaves about 25 or so teams with 6-6 records?
I'm assuming a distribution of roughly 50 teams with 7 or more wins, 50 teams with 5 or less and ~25 teams with 6-6 records.
We're either going to have a BUNCH of bowls featuring 6-6 teams playing each other than nobody will care about or watch, or they might actually allow teams with 5-7 records in. Either that or expand to include more 1-AA teams into bowls, but I thought they had their own playoff system.
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Thats why so many teams play soft OOC games. If you win four OOC games you only need to win two in conference games to get to 6-6. Should be required to be .500 in your league to qualify.
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Already have rules in place for that. From the Bowl Eligibility Wiki page
Starting with the 2013 season, this waiver is established by rule and all 6-6 teams participating in a conference championship game will be bowl eligible.
On August 2, 2012, the NCAA Division I Board of Directors approved a significant change to the process to determine bowl eligible teams, going so far as to potentially allow 5-7 teams to go to a bowl, in case there were not enough regular bowl-eligible teams to fill every game. If a bowl has one or more conferences/teams unable to meet their contractual commitments and there are no available bowl-eligible teams, the open spots can be filled – by the particular bowl's sponsoring agencies – as follows
- Teams finishing 6-6 with one win against a team from the lower Football Championship Subdivision (FCS), regardless of whether that FCS school meets NCAA scholarship requirements. Until now, an FCS win counted only if that opponent met the scholarship requirements—specifically, that school had to award at least 90% of the FCS maximum of 63 scholarship equivalents over a two-year period. In the 2012 season, programs in four FCS conferences cannot meet the 90% requirement (56.7 equivalents)—the Ivy League, which prohibits all athletic scholarships; the Patriot League and Pioneer Football League, which do not currently award football scholarships; and the Northeast Conference, which limits football scholarships to 38 equivalents.
- 6-6 teams with two wins over FCS schools.
- Teams that finish 6-7 with loss number seven in their conference championship game (that has been eliminated by the conference championship waiver rule).
- 6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii's home opponents.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Hawaii_Warriors_football_team
- FCS teams who are in the final year of the two-year FBS transition process, if they have at least a 6-6 record.
- Finally, 5-7 teams that have a top-5 Academic Progress Rate (APR) score. This was later adjusted to allow other 5-7 teams to be selected thereafter—in order of their APR.
It is the end game of Kindergarten's "Everybody is a Winner, and Everybody gets a Trophy."
You are a winner just because you are here.
You are a winner just because you are here.
Then Penn State would not have made a bowl game last year.
Seriously? There's a little trough called BROADCAST RIGHTS that the NCAA has done a pretty decent job exploiting... then add in the other sponsorship/naming-rights windfalls and the NCAA and their new bowl pals go squealing all the way to the swiss bank account... this doesn't even include the hundereds of game-tickets they'll actually sell
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But some people will.
I honestly don't understand why people get upset about so-called "undeserving" teams making bowl games. Who determines who is "undeserving?" To me, the more college football, the better.
And let's face it, for a lot of teams, finishing 6-6 and making a bowl IS a real achievement. Think about Indiana. That program is never going to win the Big Ten. That program will never play in the College Football Playoff. That program is unlikely to even ever get a bid in a game like the Capital One Bowl. But a 6-6 season and a bid to some random bowl game? Yeah, that's achievable. And something worth celebrating for the players who make it happen. I don't see why that's a bad thing.
NCAA per se doesn't own or sell the broadcast rights to the bowl games; the game sponsors do. That being said, the "greed" part comes from NCAA-member schools who participate in the games, and it's not necessarily in the form of a monetary payday, although, given the conferences that have tie-ins to these new bowls, it might be.
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Bowls are independent organizations. Although I could see the NCAA pulling some bank from the CFB championship, please explain to me where the "windfall" to the NCAA comes from, especially with three minor bowls, featuring Group of 5 teams, on the CBS Sports Network. Maybe you could provide the financials for an equally useless bowl, say the "Raycom Media Camellia Bowl" and show me how the NCAA is lining their pockets, paying for Bentley's and stashing ungodly sums in the "swiss bank accounts".
Believe me in that I hate Emmert as much as anyone here, but I don't see how adding 3 bottom feeder bowls lines the pockets of anyone in the NCAA.
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The schools will probably lose money going to these bowls. Payout won't be good enough to cover expenses.
I'm just glad one is in my backyard, however it likely won't be a game that is going to interest me anyway.
Not necessarily. Some of the non- Power 5 conferences do not split bowl revenue. Thus, if a team gets to keep the entire payout, it can either make (or not lose) money even if it goes to a lower-tier bowl.
Speaking totally from a selfish perspective, I love bowl games. As someone who has never watched a reality tv show, I welcome having more bowl games. It's the most wonderful time of the year! I love coming home from work and knowing there's a football game on that night.
For some of those players, it might be the pinnacle or in fact the end of their athletic career. It could be their one shining moment and provide them with memories that will last a lifetime. Some of those lesser bowl games in fact turn out to be great games with incredible plays. The final play of the Popeye Bahamas Bowl game between Central Michigan and Western Kentucky was amazing.
If it's going to cause a school to lose money to go, can't they turn down going? It is however, a 3 1/2 hour advertisement and publicity for that school. Imagine if Pitt didn't want to play in the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl Game against Houston, they would of missed out on setting bowl records that may never be broken.
For some of those players, it might be the pinnacle or in fact the end of their athletic career. It could be their one shining moment and provide them with memories that will last a lifetime. Some of those lesser bowl games in fact turn out to be great games with incredible plays. The final play of the Popeye Bahamas Bowl game between Central Michigan and Western Kentucky was amazing.
If it's going to cause a school to lose money to go, can't they turn down going? It is however, a 3 1/2 hour advertisement and publicity for that school. Imagine if Pitt didn't want to play in the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl Game against Houston, they would of missed out on setting bowl records that may never be broken.
