The haters say the game was close due to "lucky fumbles." What say ye?
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They were ripped out,don’t know what luck has to do with it?
I say you make your own luck. It’s not like OSU just dropped the ball, the fumbles were the result of good plays by the defense.
They weren't "lucky" fumbles. PSU defenders were hitting hard and trying to strip the football.
That said, OSU dominated the stats and PSU wouldn't have been in the game without winning the TO battle.
It was close because of the fumbles, sure. What does lucky even mean? The fumbles were caused by PSU and not prevented by OSU.
Its always lucky when we make plays apparently.
I think they were lucky Brown dropped a sure touchdown to tie it and Levis chose to throw into a scrum to kill a drive that likely ends in points putting us within one score.
That said, they’re clearly the better team. We don’t have players remotely approaching Young or Fields in talent.
That said, they’re clearly the better team. We don’t have players remotely approaching Young or Fields in talent.
Fields was lucky he recovered his last fumble on the sack or it might have been a walk-in TD for PSU.
These Fumbles didn’t appear “ out of the ether”, they were caused by gang tackles and hard hits. We didn’t get lucky, we earned those turnovers......and they became nervous. At least for a while
He dropped a few dimes in there on those TD passes, but he looked a little rattled at times. A little better tackling against him and the game would've been a nail biter.
It was, but they were not "lucky". Fields was going in for a TD. The defender put his helmet on the ball. That one play kept the game competitive. That really shifted the momentum.
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OSU's first drive was nicely defended (and should have ended in an INT), but Justin Fields and OSU somehow escaped trouble (several times) and the drive resulted in a touchdown.
The real point is that we didn’t score unless we had a short field.
No argument. Ignoring Penn State's agency in creating the short field is what makes it absurd.
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This! Oh my was that so close to a scoop and score for Cam Brown. Now admittedly I haven't gone back and watched the play but on replay it didn't look there was anyone close to the play except Brown. It looks like had that ball gotten away from Fields Brown would have been in great position to scoop and score. That would have made for some ending!
chase young is just lucky to be playing football.
You mean we were lucky just to be able to witness Chase Young playing football...it’s not every day you get to watch the second coming of Jesus. I know because I listened to the announcers.
Had the ball taken a Haley hop to Cam, he would have scored.
It’s not luck when you put a helmet on the ball, reach in and purposefully strip the ball, etc. That’s like saying if it weren’t for that lucky right cross in the 10th, so and so would have lost the match. Well, that’s part of boxing and I’m sure the right cross was thrown quite deliberately. Penn State was going for the ball and had a lot of success creating turnovers. That’s part of the game.
Fumbles are a part of the game- lucky or forced. I’ve never seen a statistical category separating the two. PSU took advantage of them, OSU overcame them.
Forcing all of the fumbles wasn’t luck - Penn State obviously saw ball security as a potential weakness and went after it - but the numbers indicate that actually recovering a fumble is about 50/50. In that sense, forcing a bunch of fumbles and stripping the ball out wasn’t lucky - but recovering almost all of them except for the one mentioned above by Fields on fourth down late in the game was certainly fortunate for Penn State and unlikely. It almost reminded me of the MSU game last year where Michigan State fumbled it five times and recovered all of them.
Fumbles are part of the game no doubt and clearly credit to PSU defense in causing them. These WERE forced turnovers. That said until the last Fields fumble every fumble from both teams and there were probably half dozen of them total bounced directly into the hands of PSU players.
guess that means the d was always around the ball. that's a good thing, no
.Let's just put it this way. WE were lucky that the fumbles happened when they did, whether the defense caused them or not. ESPECIALLY Field's fumble in the end zone. That game was about to get out of hand REAL fast.
Plus, we made some stupid plays and decisions that screamed of missed opportunities. Not that we would have won the game, but we sure could have made it closer. At least Franklin FINALLY got it through to Hamler that fair catching the ball at the end zone and taking it at the 25 is better than getting yourself killed and giving up 10 or more yards of field position to start a drive.
I love Levis, and without him, this game could have been a shutout, BUT, if he hits a wide open Hamler on that first interception, this game could have gotten REALLY interesting.
Plus, we made some stupid plays and decisions that screamed of missed opportunities. Not that we would have won the game, but we sure could have made it closer. At least Franklin FINALLY got it through to Hamler that fair catching the ball at the end zone and taking it at the 25 is better than getting yourself killed and giving up 10 or more yards of field position to start a drive.
I love Levis, and without him, this game could have been a shutout, BUT, if he hits a wide open Hamler on that first interception, this game could have gotten REALLY interesting.
It wasn’t a shut out and we made plays for the fumbles so stop the hindsight postulation. We brought OSU down to earth a little. We kind of exposed their OLine a little too as Gross-Matos had 9 tackles and 2 sacks.
Except if the fumbles were reversed, which is probably equally likely in a rematch, Ohio wins by 40 and heaping praise makes perfect sense. I guess it's nice that the boys made some big plays so it ended up looking close, but it was very obvious to me that these two teams don't really belong on the same field together.
That's dumb. OSU is better. Agreed. But down 21 with our backup QB and we made it a game. OSU didn't stop playing. They would have liked to have buried us. But they didn't. And we had something to do with that. Minimize it if you want. Maybe that's your schtick. But you'd be wrong.
Better tackling, one of the things the coaches talk about after every game that need to be "cleaned up" among other things too. We're eleven games in so when do they get "cleaned up?" Before the twelfth game? Before the bowl game? Before next season? During next season? Two seasons from now? After the next regime gets here? Seems like they've been talking about "cleaning things up" forever.
Re-watching game and announcer is referencing Franklin and his boxing approach (we hafta counter osu's big bombs)... and the guy says something like the first 7 rounds went to osu... or it was now the 7th round... not sure which... anyway...
Wilder won in the 7th.
Hmmm... so what did that guy know.. and when did he know it?
Wilder won in the 7th.
Hmmm... so what did that guy know.. and when did he know it?
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