This is not a trivia question: Which MLB HOFer made the fewest All-Star games & led any + statistical categories?

[saturdaysarebetter2]

This is not a trivia question as I'm just throwing this out there as I don't know the answer: Which major league baseball hall-of-famers can you think of that made the fewest All-Star games (since the All-Star game existed during their entire career) and also led any positive statistical categories offesively and defensively? I know that many say All-Star games are a popularity contest so that's why I'm adding in leading the league in any positive statistical categories. Looking for good suggestions on who that might be as I'm trying to check out some things.

For example: Hall-of-Famer Bert Blyleven was only a two-time All-Star. However, he led in WAR twice for pitchers (if you want to consider it), complete games once, shutouts once, strikeouts once, WHIP once, Strikeouts/Walks ratio three times. So, I could see that as a score of 11 for Bert be home Blyleven.

There are some with the ridiculous notion that Bill Mazeroski shouldn't be in the HOF. Maz had seven All-Star game seasons, eight Gold Gloves, led the league in dWAR twice, nine times in assists, eight times in double plays, five times in putouts, three times in fielding percentage, eight times in total zone fielding, 10 times in range factor per game, for a total score of 60.

Harold Baines was a six-time All-Star and led the league in slugging once and in fielding percentage once for a total score of eight.

Don Sutton was a four-time All-Star, and led the league in ERA once, WHIP four times, hits per nine innings once, HRs per nine innings once, strike out to walks ratio three times for a total score of 14.

Any suggestions on who might have the lowest number of All-Star years+leading in positive statistical categories?

As a side note, I was shocked to learn NBA's Bill Walton was only a two-time All-Star and Robin Yount only a three-time All-Star.

 

[bison13]

This is not a trivia question as I'm just throwing this out there as I don't know the answer: Which major league baseball hall-of-famers can you think of that made the fewest All-Star games (since the All-Star game existed during their entire career) and also led any positive statistical categories offesively and defensively? I know that many say All-Star games are a popularity contest so that's why I'm adding in leading the league in any positive statistical categories. Looking for good suggestions on who that might be as I'm trying to check out some things.

For example: Hall-of-Famer Bert Blyleven was only a two-time All-Star. However, he led in WAR twice for pitchers (if you want to consider it), complete games once, shutouts once, strikeouts once, WHIP once, Strikeouts/Walks ratio three times. So, I could see that as a score of 11 for Bert be home Blyleven.

There are some with the ridiculous notion that Bill Mazeroski shouldn't be in the HOF. Maz had seven All-Star game seasons, eight Gold Gloves, led the league in dWAR twice, nine times in assists, eight times in double plays, five times in putouts, three times in fielding percentage, eight times in total zone fielding, 10 times in range factor per game, for a total score of 60.

Harold Baines was a six-time All-Star and led the league in slugging once and in fielding percentage once for a total score of eight.

Don Sutton was a four-time All-Star, and led the league in ERA once, WHIP four times, hits per nine innings once, HRs per nine innings once, strike out to walks ratio three times for a total score of 14.

Any suggestions on who might have the lowest number of All-Star years+leading in positive statistical categories?

As a side note, I was shocked to learn NBA's Bill Walton was only a two-time All-Star and Robin Yount only a three-time All-Star.

Because baseball (and football) has mandatory representatives for all star games, I hate that they use that as part of the HOF discussion. Baines probably should not be in, same with a bunch of others who have gone in via the veterans committee

 

[NedFromYork]

Bill Mazeroski, for right or wrong, is in because of "The Shot Heard Round The World." He was an above average player. HIs OPS+ is well below average, his value (38 WAR) mostly comes from his defense, and that is a pretty low WAR for a HOFer.

Baines is in because of his counting stats due to longevity. Low WAR, low peak WAR, a lot of DHing so little to no defensive value. Really shouldn't be in.

The primary statistics for a modern evaluation are WAR, peak WAR, OPS+, ERA+. OPS+ and ERA+ are normalized for ballpark effects, competition, etc, so a good comparison for players in an era or between eras.

Bert "Be Home" had 94 WAR! That is a ton and an easy HOFer by a wide margin. #5 ALL-TIME in strikeouts, a counting stat which isn't a great measure, but milestones and awards do count some, just less than the modern stats do for analyzing players.

Great discussion! Thank you!

 

[Still in State College]

Yount is a great one. AS you said three time All-Star.

Two-time MVP

His first MVP in 1982 was crazy how dominant his offensive stats were.

 

[NedFromYork]

Saturday, to answer your question, I think you'll want to look up HOFers with lowest Black Ink and Gray Ink.

 

[JoeLion]

Bob Eucker?