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I’ve been a Franklin defender for a long time now. He really has many outstanding attributes; an extraordinarily hard worker, a man of great integrity and class, a fantastic teacher of and role model for young men, a sensational recruiter, an excellent eye for talent, a strong advocate for the football program and a terrific representative of my Alma Mater.

Sadly, what I’ve also learned watching him all these years is he is indisputably bad at in-game coaching decisions including when to go for it on fourth down, when to go for a 2 point conversion, time management and when to challenge a call, for example.

As a fan, it’s extremely frustrating because of all that he does so well, yet ultimately falls short in big games because of poor in-game decisions. Should he be fired? No, that’s not fair. Will he learn from his mistakes and make better in-game decisions? He hasn’t shown that ability as of yet.
 
Allar was throwing off his back foot at the crucial times, and it cost them.
Allar was the least of our problems. We put up 37 (should be 38) and he accounted for 4 scores.
People have to learn the game beyond "let's blame the QB"
It's also funny because the national narrative today is "Allar has the more upside than Sanders or Ward", "Allar reminds me of Josh Allen", "Allar gives Penn State a chance to contend for a title" yet our fan base, maybe because they haven't seen a good QB in 30 years believes Allar is either the problem or part of it. Only here.
 
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523 yds and 37 pts should have been enough to win.

I've been concerned about our defense all season. It seems more concerned about getting tackles for loss than sealing the edge and keeping the play in front of them.

We got 1 sack yesterday while allowing too many big plays.
 
I’ve been a Franklin defender for a long time now. He really has many outstanding attributes; an extraordinarily hard worker, a man of great integrity and class, a fantastic teacher of and role model for young men, a sensational recruiter, an excellent eye for talent, a strong advocate for the football program and a terrific representative of my Alma Mater.

Sadly, what I’ve also learned watching him all these years is he is indisputably bad at in-game coaching decisions including when to go for it on fourth down, when to go for a 2 point conversion, time management and when to challenge a call, for example.

As a fan, it’s extremely frustrating because of all that he does so well, yet ultimately falls short in big games because of poor in-game decisions. Should he be fired? No, that’s not fair. Will he learn from his mistakes and make better in-game decisions? He hasn’t shown that ability as of yet.
I didn’t like going for 2 but your other criticisms are off base.
 
I’ve been a Franklin defender for a long time now. He really has many outstanding attributes; an extraordinarily hard worker, a man of great integrity and class, a fantastic teacher of and role model for young men, a sensational recruiter, an excellent eye for talent, a strong advocate for the football program and a terrific representative of my Alma Mater.

Sadly, what I’ve also learned watching him all these years is he is indisputably bad at in-game coaching decisions including when to go for it on fourth down, when to go for a 2 point conversion, time management and when to challenge a call, for example.

As a fan, it’s extremely frustrating because of all that he does so well, yet ultimately falls short in big games because of poor in-game decisions. Should he be fired? No, that’s not fair. Will he learn from his mistakes and make better in-game decisions? He hasn’t shown that ability as of yet.
Careful. Holding this very obvious opinion will get you labeled as a "joebot" and "negative" by the willfully ignorant among us.
 
I actually feel James did well.

I didn’t see any of the OSU issues if clamming up.

The 2 of conversion. I get the hand wringing but it makes sense. The analytics (remember 20 yrs ago the As started analytics in baseball. Now it’s everywhere. Sometimes it works. Sometime it doesn’t. He also put ball in best player hand.

The bomb. It wasn’t a horrible call. I agree with dinking and dunking and killing clock but that wasn’t guaranteed. 2nd 1 calling bomb is not unheard of. It wasn’t not greatly executed.

We went blow for blow with best team in cfb. We had 2 turnovers . They had none. Sometimes games are like this.

This to me was a team who felt they could win and very well could’ve. Oregon executed slightly better last night. Games like this happen. But for James - I felt it was his best performance.
 
I woke up this morning proud of the team. They went down by 18 early and fought back. They went down by 15 late and fought back. They all but threw a pick six and fought back. Missed a FG and fought back. On Oregon’s next to last possession, they forced a punt. They had the ball at midfield with two mins to go and were driving for the tying touchdown.

They made mistakes and against #1 you can’t. But this team never gives up; we saw that all season. Their last TD on 4th and 10 was a thing of beauty. All season long they made big 4th down conversions late when they needed to.

A few mistakes against #1 isn’t going to get it done. But all we heard all season was that Penn State were frauds and they showed they most definitely are not. Hard to imagine anyone downplaying our ranking now.

Good game men.

(Still hate the decision to go for 2 though.)
 
I’ve been a Franklin defender for a long time now. He really has many outstanding attributes; an extraordinarily hard worker, a man of great integrity and class, a fantastic teacher of and role model for young men, a sensational recruiter, an excellent eye for talent, a strong advocate for the football program and a terrific representative of my Alma Mater.

Sadly, what I’ve also learned watching him all these years is he is indisputably bad at in-game coaching decisions including when to go for it on fourth down, when to go for a 2 point conversion, time management and when to challenge a call, for example.

As a fan, it’s extremely frustrating because of all that he does so well, yet ultimately falls short in big games because of poor in-game decisions. Should he be fired? No, that’s not fair. Will he learn from his mistakes and make better in-game decisions? He hasn’t shown that ability as of yet.
We didn’t lose because of Franklin. We lost solely because of the refs last night. If the refs call a fair game and call holdings as they should have we win by 2 TDs and Oregon scores about 24 points instead of 45.
 
Oregon and Ohio State are going to have problems in the playoffs now that they’ll need to avoid holding and pass interfering.
 
I actually feel James did well.

I didn’t see any of the OSU issues if clamming up.

The 2 of conversion. I get the hand wringing but it makes sense. The analytics (remember 20 yrs ago the As started analytics in baseball. Now it’s everywhere. Sometimes it works. Sometime it doesn’t. He also put ball in best player hand.

The bomb. It wasn’t a horrible call. I agree with dinking and dunking and killing clock but that wasn’t guaranteed. 2nd 1 calling bomb is not unheard of. It wasn’t not greatly executed.

We went blow for blow with best team in cfb. We had 2 turnovers . They had none. Sometimes games are like this.

This to me was a team who felt they could win and very well could’ve. Oregon executed slightly better last night. Games like this happen. But for James - I felt it was his best performance.
I'm fine with the play call - deep pass on 2nd and 1. The problem was the decision by Drew to throw it.
 
523 yds and 37 pts should have been enough to win.

I've been concerned about our defense all season. It seems more concerned about getting tackles for loss than sealing the edge and keeping the play in front of them.

We got 1 sack yesterday while allowing too many big plays.
I think I heard them say during the telecast that Oregon has given up 22 sacks… in the last 3 years!
 
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I think I heard them say during the telecast that Oregon has given up 22 sacks… in the last 3 years!
I'm old enough to remember PSU playing behind Miami receivers and delivering big hits. We even got interception by LBs dropping back into coverage.

This team knows pretty much one thing. Come hard and try to make an explosive plays on defense.
 
I'm old enough to remember PSU playing behind Miami receivers and delivering big hits. We even got interception by LBs dropping back into coverage.

This team knows pretty much one thing. Come hard and try to make an explosive plays on defense.
Defense only has a few that can actually wrapup on tackles and struggle with discipline in assignments.
Kobe King had an excellent game.
Carter had a strong game despite being held or tackled on numerous QB pressures.
Carter's closing speed is elite as evidenced by those two runners he ran down on outside plays by Oregon.
 
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I think Franklin has gotten actually quite good in regards to clock management in recent years. He certainly was awful at it earlier in his time at PSU
 
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I think Franklin has gotten actually quite good in regards to clock management in recent years. He certainly was awful at it earlier in his time at PSU
That’s fair. It’s probably the one in-game management aspect where there has been some improvement.
 
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Allar was the least of our problems. We put up 37 (should be 38) and he accounted for 4 scores.
People have to learn the game beyond "let's blame the QB"
It's also funny because the national narrative today is "Allar has the more upside than Sanders or Ward", "Allar reminds me of Josh Allen", "Allar gives Penn State a chance to contend for a title" yet our fan base, maybe because they haven't seen a good QB in 30 years believes Allar is either the problem or part of it. Only here.
Allar could be the next Josh Allen, he could also be like a million other QB prospects with fantastic traits that never come together to form a complete QB.

Last night is why drafting Allar in the first is such a dicey proposition. He made a couple of tantalizing throws (his last TD) and a beautiful touch ball to Warren between two guys for example. He also made two very bad throws (missing Warren for a TD and his first INT).....I can see how he could be the most talented QB in the land, and I can also see why teams are afraid to draft him.

All of that being said, Allar made a couple of huge mistakes last night that greatly contributed to the loss. Still a bit flabbergasted on throwing that last ball deep, but I blame that as much on the coaches.
 
I’ve been a Franklin defender for a long time now. He really has many outstanding attributes; an extraordinarily hard worker, a man of great integrity and class, a fantastic teacher of and role model for young men, a sensational recruiter, an excellent eye for talent, a strong advocate for the football program and a terrific representative of my Alma Mater.

Sadly, what I’ve also learned watching him all these years is he is indisputably bad at in-game coaching decisions including when to go for it on fourth down, when to go for a 2 point conversion, time management and when to challenge a call, for example.

As a fan, it’s extremely frustrating because of all that he does so well, yet ultimately falls short in big games because of poor in-game decisions. Should he be fired? No, that’s not fair. Will he learn from his mistakes and make better in-game decisions? He hasn’t shown that ability as of yet.
He was actually better than Lanning in regards to in game management last night.
1) Lanning's failure to use time outs on last drive of first half really put them in a bind. Let 20 seconds expire (from about 40-20) with three timeouts remaining in the redzone, that was malpractice.
2) Continuing to throw the ball horizontally despite us making the plays when throwing the ball past the LOS worked all night long was nice.
 
Allar could be the next Josh Allen, he could also be like a million other QB prospects with fantastic traits that never come together to form a complete QB.

Last night is why drafting Allar in the first is such a dicey proposition. He made a couple of tantalizing throws (his last TD) and a beautiful touch ball to Warren between two guys for example. He also made two very bad throws (missing Warren for a TD and his first INT).....I can see how he could be the most talented QB in the land, and I can also see why teams are afraid to draft him.

All of that being said, Allar made a couple of huge mistakes last night that greatly contributed to the loss. Still a bit flabbergasted on throwing that last ball deep, but I blame that as much on the coaches.
The first pick was on Dinkins not Allar--Dinkins drifted upfield and never looked back--not a perfect pass but Dinkins created the pick (to be fair to Dinkins he was probably shocked the ball was thrown in his direction)
There's definitely risk with Allar--but how many QBs have ever been a sure thing? Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck?
PFF's grade for Allar was over an 86 yesterday--he was much better than most (not saying you) are acknowledging last night
 
Allar was the least of our problems. We put up 37 (should be 38) and he accounted for 4 scores.
People have to learn the game beyond "let's blame the QB"
It's also funny because the national narrative today is "Allar has the more upside than Sanders or Ward", "Allar reminds me of Josh Allen", "Allar gives Penn State a chance to contend for a title" yet our fan base, maybe because they haven't seen a good QB in 30 years believes Allar is either the problem or part of it. Only here.

He also accounted for what effectively was a Pick-6 and ending our chances on the final drive (Sorry but the last throw was on Allar - if you're going to throw a "50/50" ball on that sideline pattern where D-back has both "inside and deep leverage" you have to throw a "back-shoulder throw" which is short and toward sideline where only your receiver can access it. IOW, "throw him open"..... if you're going to throw it long in that situation, which is where D-back had leverage over receiver, there are only two places to throw it away - way, way long over everybodies' head or long-&-OB, way OB. Short and slightly OB was fine as well, but Allar put it the one place you absolutely cannot put it when DB has the inside-&-long leverage.). PSU lost the Turnover battle 0-2, which is a virtual death sentence playing the undefeated #1 Ranked team..... and Allar was absolutely responsible for both turnovers.
 
He also accounted for what effectively was a Pick-6 and ending our chances on the final drive (Sorry but the last throw was on Allar - if you're going to throw a "50/50" ball on that sideline pattern where D-back has both "inside and deep leverage" you have to throw a "back-shoulder throw" which is short and toward sideline where only your receiver can access it. IOW, "throw him open"..... if you're going to throw it long in that situation, which is where D-back had leverage over receiver, there are only two places to throw it away - way, way long over everybodies' head or long-&-OB, way OB. Short and slightly OB was fine as well, but Allar put it the one place you absolutely cannot put it when DB has the inside-&-long leverage.). PSU lost the Turnover battle 0-2, which is a virtual death sentence playing the undefeated #1 Ranked team..... and Allar was absolutely responsible for both turnovers.
That last pick wasnt on Allar. Wallace misjudged it and actually pushed the CB to the ball. The first pick was on Dinkins. Further evidence you know nothing about the game. Just bitching as always.
 
I woke up this morning proud of the team. They went down by 18 early and fought back. They went down by 15 late and fought back. They all but threw a pick six and fought back. Missed a FG and fought back. On Oregon’s next to last possession, they forced a punt. They had the ball at midfield with two mins to go and were driving for the tying touchdown.

They made mistakes and against #1 you can’t. But this team never gives up; we saw that all season. Their last TD on 4th and 10 was a thing of beauty. All season long they made big 4th down conversions late when they needed to.

A few mistakes against #1 isn’t going to get it done. But all we heard all season was that Penn State were frauds and they showed they most definitely are not. Hard to imagine anyone downplaying our ranking now.

Good game men.

(Still hate the decision to go for 2 though.)
Still lost though…again…ahhh for the days of tough Penn State football. A Joe-coaches team would have muscled Oregon until they cried Uncke - on both sides of ball. Can’t out-finesse the best finesse teams.
 
While I hate going for two like that anyone the watches college or pro football knows all coaches do it in the same situation. It’s not just just Franklin it’s everyone.
 
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I'm fine with the play call - deep pass on 2nd and 1. The problem was the decision by Drew to throw it.

Agreed. To his credit, he admitted he should have either thrown a ball only Wallace could catch, OR go through his progressions.

At some point, he needs to make it happen on the field instead of talking about it after.
 
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The first pick was on Dinkins not Allar--Dinkins drifted upfield and never looked back--not a perfect pass but Dinkins created the pick (to be fair to Dinkins he was probably shocked the ball was thrown in his direction)
There's definitely risk with Allar--but how many QBs have ever been a sure thing? Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck?
PFF's grade for Allar was over an 86 yesterday--he was much better than most (not saying you) are acknowledging last night

LOL.. You are the only person in the universe who thinks that was on Dinkins. It's hilarious.
 
I’ve been a Franklin defender for a long time now. He really has many outstanding attributes; an extraordinarily hard worker, a man of great integrity and class, a fantastic teacher of and role model for young men, a sensational recruiter, an excellent eye for talent, a strong advocate for the football program and a terrific representative of my Alma Mater.

Sadly, what I’ve also learned watching him all these years is he is indisputably bad at in-game coaching decisions including when to go for it on fourth down, when to go for a 2 point conversion, time management and when to challenge a call, for example.

As a fan, it’s extremely frustrating because of all that he does so well, yet ultimately falls short in big games because of poor in-game decisions. Should he be fired? No, that’s not fair. Will he learn from his mistakes and make better in-game decisions? He hasn’t shown that ability as of yet.
What, exactly, are you crying about?
 
I actually feel James did well.

I didn’t see any of the OSU issues if clamming up.

The 2 of conversion. I get the hand wringing but it makes sense. The analytics (remember 20 yrs ago the As started analytics in baseball. Now it’s everywhere. Sometimes it works. Sometime it doesn’t. He also put ball in best player hand.

The bomb. It wasn’t a horrible call. I agree with dinking and dunking and killing clock but that wasn’t guaranteed. 2nd 1 calling bomb is not unheard of. It wasn’t not greatly executed.

We went blow for blow with best team in cfb. We had 2 turnovers . They had none. Sometimes games are like this.

This to me was a team who felt they could win and very well could’ve. Oregon executed slightly better last night. Games like this happen. But for James - I felt it was his best performance.
On the 2nd and 1 bomb... my only issue, if it is executed you give the ball back to Oregon with time to drive and kick a winning field that's assuming you made the 2 point try to tie the game. At that point in the game you had to be playing for OT... drive down the field methodically then hopefully get your TD and the 2 with just seconds remaining. You were not going to get the ball twice before the end of regulation unless you got an onside kick or held Oregon to three and out with minimal yards gained after the tieing score.
 
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That last pick wasnt on Allar. Wallace misjudged it and actually pushed the CB to the ball. The first pick was on Dinkins. Further evidence you know nothing about the game. Just bitching as always.

LOL... Loado thinking he's God again......
 
Isn’t the two point try an in-game decision?
Yes, but it was the correct call, so what's everyone crying about? I wasn't a fan of the actual play call - but that's AK's responsibility. You go for 2 there. It's football. It's basic math. It's not complicated.
 
PSU ran for almost 300 yds..Run the ball down their throat. With all the uncalled holding penalties on Oregons lineman and DBs,. PSU still outgained and out rushed the ducks..
 
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Yes, but it was the correct call, so what's everyone crying about? I wasn't a fan of the actual play call - but that's AK's responsibility. You go for 2 there. It's football. It's basic math. It's not complicated.

It makes sense to go for two, but I generally think about the psychological aspect if you miss. It deflates a team right after they score a TD and should be riding high. And I think that is tough to quantify.
 
Biggest mistake on the field is Tom Allen; What has he done of note, only thing that comes to mind for me is a game at PSU where his quarterback was OB when he crossed the goal line. Should be gone; but he has one more phuc up before he is gone this time. Worst DC we've had since the first one Franklin brought here.
 
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