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Thoughts on Shaq Getting the Nod..

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I think he earned the opportunity to compete in the post-season...as much as I like Cassar I think Rasheed outperformed him...I hope Cassar doesn’t transfer but I would understand...
 
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My feelings exactly. I feel like this is the right decision, but it's bittersweet.

Feel bad for Anthony, and I will always remember his huge win against Moore to help knock off the tanmen.

Didn't see this coming at the beginning of the year, that's for sure.

I think he earned the opportunity to compete in the post-season...as much as I like Cassar I think Rasheed outperformed him...I hope Cassar doesn’t transfer but I would understand...
 
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Shakur was off our radar screen for sometime; he then shows up at the 197 weight class and I figured he is third behind Cutch and Cassar. His coming out party was the Scuffle and he hasn't disappointed to date. If he stays healthy, he'll be a force to recon with at the tournaments.
 
Feel good story, for sure...though this story is still unfolding. Getting the nod is the beginning, right? Just hope it's the beginning of something BIG :).
 
Shakur was off our radar screen for sometime; he then shows up at the 197 weight class and I figured he is third behind Cutch and Cassar. His coming out party was the Scuffle and he hasn't disappointed to date. If he stays healthy, he'll be a force to recon with at the tournaments.
Rasheed should not have been off anyone’s radar. He showed that 2 years ago at 165.
 
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Will he beat the bigger 97s.
Good question, and worth discussing. I think yes, he'll out-quick the bigger guys, but can't get caught underneath for long stretches that will wear him out. Big Ten's and NCAA's are brutal tournaments, and a couple quick, early falls would be just what the doctor ordered. That said, Shak has shown that tiring isn't much of a problem at 197...though being tested in consecutive matches will show us for sure.
 
Good question, and worth discussing. I think yes, he'll out-quick the bigger guys, but can't get caught underneath for long stretches that will wear him out. Big Ten's and NCAA's are brutal tournaments, and a couple quick, early falls would be just what the doctor ordered. That said, Shak has shown that tiring isn't much of a problem at 197...though being tested in consecutive matches will show us for sure.

He's powered by rotisserie chicken. No one will be stopping the Shakren.
 
Good question, and worth discussing. I think yes, he'll out-quick the bigger guys, but can't get caught underneath for long stretches that will wear him out. Big Ten's and NCAA's are brutal tournaments, and a couple quick, early falls would be just what the doctor ordered. That said, Shak has shown that tiring isn't much of a problem at 197...though being tested in consecutive matches will show us for sure.


The other side of the coin says:

1. He doesn’t cut, so multi-day weigh-in tourneys should give him an edge.

2. He looked energetic at the Scuffle. Lol.
 
The other side of the coin says:

1. He doesn’t cut, so multi-day weigh-in tourneys should give him an edge.

2. He looked energetic at the Scuffle. Lol.
The consecutive day weigh-ins will be an advantage over the guys that cut the most, for sure. And Shak did look awesome the whole way through the Scuffle, though 3 consecutive falls in under a minute was a factor (as far as looking fresh). I'm excited for the young man...this is an awesome opportunity, and I know he'll make the best. His mind (attitude) sure is in a good place. Thing is, about those 3 falls, they were against current #'s14, 16, and 19. He won't get much better competition at B1G's, as overall 197 is weak in the conference, but he will at NCAA's. After Rd 2, he'll be up against top-8 guys. Different animal, though the more I see, the more I like his chances.
 
The consecutive day weigh-ins will be an advantage over the guys that cut the most, for sure. And Shak did look awesome the whole way through the Scuffle, though 3 consecutive falls in under a minute was a factor (as far as looking fresh). I'm excited for the young man...this is an awesome opportunity, and I know he'll make the best. His mind (attitude) sure is in a good place. Thing is, about those 3 falls, they were against current #'s14, 16, and 19. He won't get much better competition at B1G's, as overall 197 is weak in the conference, but he will at NCAA's. After Rd 2, he'll be up against top-8 guys. Different animal, though the more I see, the more I like his chances.

And he will be back next year to defend his national championship title.

(Just imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the tin foil hat crowd when 141-197 are swept by the blue and white singlets.)
 
Cassar is as big a 197 pounder as any of them get. Just guessing but after spending all week rolling with Cassar, most of the other dudes probably seem like catching a break.

That would have been my answer. If the reports are true of SR beating Cassar in a wrestle off, then that question has already been answered. I think he has as good a chance as anyone at winning 197 this year.
 
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What do you all think Cassar will do? Does he transfer? I can’t see him staying as there’s nowhere to fit in. Unless he gives it another go at 97 next year in an attempt to knock Rasheed off. If he transfers would he go to Rutgers (I believe he’s from Jersey)...it sux but it is a nice problem for Cael to have.
 
What do you all think Cassar will do? Does he transfer? I can’t see him staying as there’s nowhere to fit in. Unless he gives it another go at 97 next year in an attempt to knock Rasheed off. If he transfers would he go to Rutgers (I believe he’s from Jersey)...it sux but it is a nice problem for Cael to have.

After last year’s dumpster fire with Rutgers & that skinny kid whose name I forget, I would hope Cael block any transfer to Rutgers.
 
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What do you all think Cassar will do? Does he transfer? I can’t see him staying as there’s nowhere to fit in. Unless he gives it another go at 97 next year in an attempt to knock Rasheed off. If he transfers would he go to Rutgers (I believe he’s from Jersey)...it sux but it is a nice problem for Cael to have.
We know know Goodale will be on the phone with him soon.
Shit. If he were to transfer to Rutgers, the Scarlet Knights will have two kids with wrestling skills. Maybe even the Rutgers fans will begin to notice the difference.
 
The consecutive day weigh-ins will be an advantage over the guys that cut the most, for sure. And Shak did look awesome the whole way through the Scuffle, though 3 consecutive falls in under a minute was a factor (as far as looking fresh). I'm excited for the young man...this is an awesome opportunity, and I know he'll make the best. His mind (attitude) sure is in a good place. Thing is, about those 3 falls, they were against current #'s14, 16, and 19. He won't get much better competition at B1G's, as overall 197 is weak in the conference, but he will at NCAA's. After Rd 2, he'll be up against top-8 guys. Different animal, though the more I see, the more I like his chances.
Plus, he has the best workout partner in the country!
 
After last year’s dumpster fire with Rutgers & that skinny kid whose name I forget, I would hope Cael block any transfer to Rutgers.
I would imagine Cael would allow Anthony to go wherever he wishes. I would wish it were some place else.
 
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We know know Goodale will be on the phone with him soon.
Shit. If he were to transfer to Rutgers, the Scarlet Knights will have two kids with wrestling skills. Maybe even the Rutgers fans will begin to notice the difference.
I understand that there's quite a bit of gray area regarding B1G to B1G transfers(ala NS), but wouldn't he technically be losing a year of eligibility by transferring to another B1G school or do you not lose a year as long as it's approved by the school you're transferring from?
 
I understand that there's quite a bit of gray area regarding B1G to B1G transfers(ala NS), but wouldn't he technically be losing a year of eligibility by transferring to another B1G school or do you not lose a year as long as it's approved by the school you're transferring from?
Yeah, you just hit on the source of the misunderstanding so many people had about Suriano's transfer attempt last year. The default setting for B1G interconference transfers is that you lose a year of eligibility unless you can obtain a waiver. That waiver application is made to the B1G, not the outgoing school, and the criteria for successful waivers is fuzzy at best. In Suriano's case, B1G asked Penn State for its input but there's no way to know what weight, if any, PSU's input carried. Some might assume that the B1G simply rubber stamps waiver requests if the outgoing school doesn't oppose, but there's really no way to be certain that that's the case. So in a hypothetical waiver application by Cassar to attend another B1G school, there's no way of knowing how Penn State's opposition or non-opposition would impact the outcome.
 
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I understand that there's quite a bit of gray area regarding B1G to B1G transfers(ala NS), but wouldn't he technically be losing a year of eligibility by transferring to another B1G school or do you not lose a year as long as it's approved by the school you're transferring from?
I would think Cael would endorse whatever waiver needed to be endorsed. I have no idea if that would have any impact of not. But he could always just say to the Big10 I would like the Nick Suriano waiver please. What the hell is the B1G going to do. They now have the Suriano precedent .
 
Yeah, you just hit on the source of the misunderstanding so many people had about Suriano's transfer attempt last year. The default setting for B1G interconference transfers is that you lose a year of eligibility unless you can obtain a waiver. That waiver application is made to the B1G, not the outgoing school, and the criteria for successful waivers is fuzzy at best. In Suriano's case, B1G asked Penn State for its input but there's no way to know what weight, if any, PSU's input carried. Some might assume that the B1G simply rubber stamps waiver requests if the outgoing school doesn't oppose, but there's really no way to be certain that that's the case. So in a hypothetical waiver application by Cassar to attend another B1G school, there's no way of knowing how Penn State's opposition or non-opposition would impact the outcome.
Thanks guys, I guess you ask the great and powerful Oz for a waiver, maybe you get it, maybe you don't, but you don't get to see what's going on behind the curtain. From what I believe I gathered via google, if you're not receiving any type of athletic aid your transfer isn't subject to the loss of a year of eligibility (this was from 2006, not sure if it still applies). Also, what I got via the ncaa website they put together a committee of representatives from all conferences to ammend transfer rules to make things more clear and expect to put them into action sometime before June 2018. That being said, I hope Anthony stays, but I wish him the best in whatever he does in life, he seems like a fine young man.
 
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Yeah, you just hit on the source of the misunderstanding so many people had about Suriano's transfer attempt last year. The default setting for B1G interconference transfers is that you lose a year of eligibility unless you can obtain a waiver. That waiver application is made to the B1G, not the outgoing school, and the criteria for successful waivers is fuzzy at best. In Suriano's case, B1G asked Penn State for its input but there's no way to know what weight, if any, PSU's input carried. Some might assume that the B1G simply rubber stamps waiver requests if the outgoing school doesn't oppose, but there's really no way to be certain that that's the case. So in a hypothetical waiver application by Cassar to attend another B1G school, there's no way of knowing how Penn State's opposition or non-opposition would impact the outcome.

Was there ever a thread about this?
 
What do you all think Cassar will do? Does he transfer? I can’t see him staying as there’s nowhere to fit in. Unless he gives it another go at 97 next year in an attempt to knock Rasheed off. If he transfers would he go to Rutgers (I believe he’s from Jersey)...it sux but it is a nice problem for Cael to have.
It is my understanding that Cassars true talents and goals are in freestyle, and the wrestle off with Rasheed is close , so maybe he stays in that room and gets better. He has a good chance of making team next year, that and the NLWC hopefully enough to keeps him at PSU.

I would have hated to have been the one to make this call for a starter! what a problem to have.
 
I understand that there's quite a bit of gray area regarding B1G to B1G transfers(ala NS), but wouldn't he technically be losing a year of eligibility by transferring to another B1G school or do you not lose a year as long as it's approved by the school you're transferring from?
The problem is that B10 rules do not say a waiver is an option, do not describe criteria for a waiver, or describe a process for a waiver.

B10 rules say that intra-conference transfers cost the athlete a year with 4 exceptions: (1) the original school releases the athlete prior to enrollement; (2) the NLI is declared void prior to enrollment; (3) the student is declared inadmissible; (4) the school drops the sport.

The Mejia back and forth between Illinois and Iowa would fall somewhere between (1), (2), and (3). (3) would allow for grad school transfers -- the NCAA rule allows grad transfers when the grad major is not offered at the undergrad school (example: Rutgers athlete transfers to PSU for MS Nuclear Engineering, which does not exist at RU). (4) is self-explanatory.

Rules taken literally, all other transfers cost the athlete a year. This is obviously not true, so the B10 really should publicly amend its rules to match reality.

I hope this didn't just reopen the can of worms that was the transfer debate from 10 months ago.
 
Moore of Ohio State lost again today. Wonder if Rasheed gets the top seed at Big Tens.
 
Moore of Ohio State lost again today. Wonder if Rasheed gets the top seed at Big Tens.
Today's loss has nothing to do with Big Ten seedings. He's 8-1 in conference duals, while Shak is 4-0. Since they didn't wrestle, I'd give the top seed to Moore.

My Big Ten Pre-Seedings may get done this week, that's where the 197 top-2 are with me right now.
 
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I agree that Moore will probably get the 1 seed but it shouldn't matter too much. They'll be on opposite sides with Wilcke/Beazley on each side. Shak has shown he can beat either of them.
 
I think he earned the opportunity to compete in the post-season...as much as I like Cassar I think Rasheed outperformed him...I hope Cassar doesn’t transfer but I would understand...

Whoever won in the room deserves the shot. Both are outstanding wrestlers but head to head is
the tie breaker.
 
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