Time for Berhalter to go

[Delcolion915]

That was .. panthic.

Red card for absolute stupidity, then after Bologun amazing goal, they give up an equalizer in 3 minutes. No Musah. Poor defense, in second half. 3 defenders around Panama on second goal, you have to make that save but Turner isn't there to do it. He takes Bokogun out of the game and Pepi comes up lame on the header.

This dude needs to go. Zero excuse losing at home to Panama and they ain't gonna beat Uruguay.

Long overdue, the guy shouldn't have been hired back in the first place.

"Golden generation" lmao

 

[m.knox]

That was .. panthic.

Red card for absolute stupidity, then after Bologun amazing goal, they give up an equalizer in 3 minutes. No Musah. Poor defense, in second half. 3 defenders around Panama on second goal, you have to make that save but Turner isn't there to do it. He takes Bokogun out of the game and Pepi comes up lame on the header.

This dude needs to go. Zero excuse losing at home to Panama and they ain't gonna beat Uruguay.

Long overdue, the guy shouldn't have been hired back in the first place.

"Golden generation" lmao

Alexi Lalas was pissed off after. Rightfully so.

The second goal was awful. It was like the goal keeper was trying to dodge the shot like Neo dodges bullets in The Matrix.

Team USA isn't going to beat Bolivia Monday. Yet another set back for Men's soccer.

 

[bcspsu]

Alexi Lalas was pissed off after. Rightfully so.

The second goal was awful. It was like the goal keeper was trying to dodge the shot like Neo dodges bullets in The Matrix.

Team USA isn't going to be Bolivia Monday. Yet another set back for Men's soccer.

I think that you mean that they're not going to beat Uruguay on Monday, which they probably aren't. Thus, they'll be out of the tournament when a country like Panama, which probably has more illegals living in the USA than actually reside in their own country, will advance in their place, which is a complete joke.

Considering the fact that most of the USMNT now play on European teams, including the Premier League and Serie A, it's completely unacceptable to lose to countries like Panama, especially at home, regardless of the mitigating factor of the red card. A less naive country would've found a way to grind out a draw in that game, but of course that's still too much to expect from this program.

 

[m.knox]

I think that you mean that there not going to beat Uruguay on Monday, which they probably aren't. Thus, they'll be out of the tournament when a country like Panama, which probably has more illegals living in the USA than actually reside in their own country, will advance in their place, which is a complete joke.

Considering the fact that most of the USMNT now play on European teams, including the Premier League and Serie A, it's completely unacceptable to lose to countries like Panama, especially at home, regardless of the mitigating factor of the red card. A less naive country would've found a way to grind out a draw in that game, but of course that's still too much to expect from this program.

Correct, and I just watched the replay of them whipping up Bolivia this morning......

 

[NittanyPirate]

I’m not arguing that Berhalter should keep his job. He probably should be fired. But it wasn’t his fault that idiot got thrown out of the game. That was why we lost: not because our coach stinks

 

[bcspsu]

I’m not arguing that Berhalter should keep his job. He probably should be fired. But it wasn’t his fault that idiot got thrown out of the game. That was why we lost: not because our coach stinks

I agree with that. Also, he actually has done pretty well in CONCACAF tournaments and did get them to knockout round of the last World Cup.

The player who received the red card plays for Juventus, which is one of the most famous football clubs in the world, and his father was a great player; he should've known how to handle himself when he was being agitated.

 

[Delcolion915]

I’m not arguing that Berhalter should keep his job. He probably should be fired. But it wasn’t his fault that idiot got thrown out of the game. That was why we lost: not because our coach stinks

Not probably. Definitely. If they don't advance, he is gone. As both Dempsey and Lalas said, while that was bush league play by Yeah, it was still Burhalter who lifted Turner at half for a clearly minor league tender. Turner finished the half and could have played the second. It was Berhalter who pulled Baligun, with 24 minutes left. Berhalter who failed to move Pulicic to the 9 after that.

Time and again he has shown clearly that he is not a world team worthy coach. No other nation would even give him a sniff.

Write the check and go get Zidane, or Guardiola, or....hell I can name 20 coaches superior to that hack.

 

[bcspsu]

Not probably. Definitely. If they don't advance, he is gone.

I was listening to the Sirius XM Soccer Channel this morning, and the consensus seems to be that he will be replaced if they don't advance. Now the question is who would the replacement be?

 

[TangSoo]

Not probably. Definitely. If they don't advance, he is gone. As both Dempsey and Lalas said, while that was bush league play by Yeah, it was still Burhalter who lifted Turner at half for a clearly minor league tender. Turner finished the half and could have played the second. It was Berhalter who pulled Baligun, with 24 minutes left. Berhalter who failed to move Pulicic to the 9 after that.

Time and again he has shown clearly that he is not a world team worthy coach. No other nation would even give him a sniff.

Write the check and go get Zidane, or Guardiola, or....hell I can name 20 coaches superior to that hack.

Yeah, Zidane sounds good. Maybe he can teach Weah that a headbutt is the most bang for your buck when getting red carded in the biggest game of his life.

 

[ryoder1]

I think that you mean that they're not going to beat Uruguay on Monday, which they probably aren't. Thus, they'll be out of the tournament when a country like Panama, which probably has more illegals living in the USA than actually reside in their own country, will advance in their place, which is a complete joke.

Considering the fact that most of the USMNT now play on European teams, including the Premier League and Serie A, it's completely unacceptable to lose to countries like Panama, especially at home, regardless of the mitigating factor of the red card. A less naive country would've found a way to grind out a draw in that game, but of course that's still too much to expect from this program.

I didn't know they all play on European teams and I guess many on premier teams. That means it is coaching more than talent holding us back at this point. Yeah, we should be able to at least draw with Panama with only 10 guys especially being up 1-0.

 

[bcspsu]

I didn't know they all play on European teams and I guess many on premier teams. That means it is coaching more than talent holding us back at this point. Yeah, we should be able to at least draw with Panama with only 10 guys especially being up 1-0.

I'm just doing this by memory, and I'm not going to go through the whole team, but the following players who played last night play on the following European teams:

Matt Turner - Nottingham Forest
Wes McKennie - Juventus
Tyler Adams - Fulham
Tim Ream - Fulham
Gio Reyna - Nottingham Forest
Tim Weah - Juventus
Flo Belogun - Monaco
Christian Pulisic - AC Milan
Cameron Carter-Vickers - Celtic
Ricardo Pepi - PSV

I'm sure that there are others, but that just shows you that most of the players on this team are considered to be good enough to play at the highest level of European soccer, and it's a damn shame that they're probably going to be bounced in the group stage of a prestigious tournament that's being played in the USA. If they had advanced even to the quaterfinals and played an Argentina, Columbia or Brazil, that would've created so much buzz for this program and the sport, especially since they don't have to qualify for the 2026 World Cup.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Not probably. Definitely. If they don't advance, he is gone. As both Dempsey and Lalas said, while that was bush league play by Yeah, it was still Burhalter who lifted Turner at half for a clearly minor league tender. Turner finished the half and could have played the second. It was Berhalter who pulled Baligun, with 24 minutes left. Berhalter who failed to move Pulicic to the 9 after that.

Time and again he has shown clearly that he is not a world team worthy coach. No other nation would even give him a sniff.

Write the check and go get Zidane, or Guardiola, or....hell I can name 20 coaches superior to that hack.

Yeah - him and his tight pants are a joke. He’s a donkey.

As an aside, why has no country gone after Diego Simeone as a NT coach? That guy is a genius for what he’s done at Atlético. Plus, his style is perfect for a survive and advance tournament

 

[bcspsu]

Yeah - him and his tight pants are a joke. He’s a donkey.

As an aside, why has no country gone after Diego Simeone as a NT coach? That guy is a genius for what he’s done at Atlético. Plus, his style is perfect for a survive and advance tournament

As an Inter Milan fan, there always has been talk that he eventually may become Inter's coach one day, as he's a former player there. However, Inter's current coach, Simone Inzaghi, has done a tremendous job and probably won't be leaving anytime soon. I love how Simeone's teams usually are more than the sum of their parts, and they emulate his personality. Ironically, his Atletico Madrid knocked Inter out of the Champions League this past season on penalty kicks, and Inter, IMO, was a much more talented team.

 

[Richie O]

That was .. panthic.

Red card for absolute stupidity, then after Bologun amazing goal, they give up an equalizer in 3 minutes. No Musah. Poor defense, in second half. 3 defenders around Panama on second goal, you have to make that save but Turner isn't there to do it. He takes Bokogun out of the game and Pepi comes up lame on the header.

This dude needs to go. Zero excuse losing at home to Panama and they ain't gonna beat Uruguay.

Long overdue, the guy shouldn't have been hired back in the first place.

"Golden generation" lmao

Tonight was just as bad. I'm all in on firing him.

 

[Obliviax]

About last night....

This video shows Pulisic telling the refs to go to center pitch so they can celebrate with Uraguay.

 

[bcspsu]

About last night....

This video shows Pulisic telling the refs to go to center pitch so they can celebrate with Uraguay.

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They could've played that game continuously until the next Copa America and wouldn't have scored a goal. It's laughable that these players feel that they have to leave this country and MLS to go to Europe to play their club soccer so that they're prepared to play well in these tournaments, and then proceed to score three goals in three games while playing two very underwhelming opponents.

Maybe these players should start staying in the MLS and being main players on their teams and getting a lot of playing time and making that league better.

 

[Obliviax]

They could've played that game continuously until the next Copa America and wouldn't have scored a goal. It's laughable that these players feel that they have to leave this country and MLS to go to Europe to play their club soccer so that they're prepared to play well in these tournaments, and then proceed to score three goals in three games while playing two very underwhelming opponents.

Maybe these players should start staying in the MLS and being main players on their teams and getting a lot of playing time and making that league better.

Agreed on offense. But the refs let them mug Pelisic all night which hurt their ability to set up plays. Defensively, they allowed a goal that was clearly offsides. But to your point, last night was the only inspired play of the tournament for team USA. There feels like they have this entitlement thing. It is a tournament against highly motivated players. You've got to bring it every night.

Lalas was on point after the game. I am not a fan of his but he came right up and stopped just before saying that the coach needs to be fired (I understand he has a contract through '26 and the WC). This is the "golden generation" of USA soccer and they play less inspired than the last several men's teams. They are not fun to watch, at all. I watched the england game and they had the same problem until a 22 year old scissor kicked a tying gaol in stoppage time. Then totally outplayed their opponent with a double header for the win in OT. Back to USA, someone needs to change the mo.

 

[Obliviax]

 

[Obliviax]

 

[baircub1!]

Agreed on offense. But the refs let them mug Pelisic all night which hurt their ability to set up plays. Defensively, they allowed a goal that was clearly offsides. But to your point, last night was the only inspired play of the tournament for team USA. There feels like they have this entitlement thing. It is a tournament against highly motivated players. You've got to bring it every night.

Lalas was on point after the game. I am not a fan of his but he came right up and stopped just before saying that the coach needs to be fired (I understand he has a contract through '26 and the WC). This is the "golden generation" of USA soccer and they play less inspired than the last several men's teams. They are not fun to watch, at all. I watched the england game and they had the same problem until a 22 year old scissor kicked a tying gaol in stoppage time. Then totally outplayed their opponent with a double header for the win in OT. Back to USA, someone needs to change the mo.

Agree the HC must go.. but US soccer IMO needs fundamental changes starting at the Youth Level. There are too many paths for young soccer players to go ie MLs next , ECNl , ECNL RL , EDP etc etc. the rest of the World has a more centralized system where it’s easier to identify and train future stars.. the Y it’s a money grab with these academies especially.., the US has the best athletes in the world..I’m not sure we are always putting out.. our “ best” players…

 

[baircub1!]

Agree the HC must go.. but US soccer IMO needs fundamental changes starting at the Youth Level. There are too many paths for young soccer players to go ie MLs next , ECNl , ECNL RL , EDP etc etc. the rest of the World has a more centralized system where it’s easier to identify and train future stars.. the Y it’s a money grab with these academies especially.., the US has the best athletes in the world..I’m not sure we are always putting out.. our “ best” players…

And.. the refs were bad for the entire tournament.. our players let it get to them…to the world we look like a bunch of spoiled brats.. and I like CP but he is the Captain., his antics towards the ref ? As frustrating as the game was.. remember., we lost many many chances in game 1 and were beat by a much inferior team in game 2.. the US deserved to be eliminated.., actually the same can be said about Mexico,, they could not score..

 

[PSU Blue]

Berhalter is a clown on so many levels. No one respects him, he tries to fit a circle into a square with his system, and he screams all game on deaf ears. The US had a great chance to get rid of him when they learned he beat his wife. He is absolutely a shit coach. It's critical they fire him immediately to give a new coach time to work on his system. If they don't, the US will be eliminated before 16 in the WC. That is an absolute fact no matter what draw they get.

 

[Delcolion915]

Exactly, why, do they need a thorough investigation 🤣? Last night was more than enough investigation needed. They're spoiled, incredibly poorly coached, unfit from riding benches in Europe leagues, insist on building from the back when they lack the quality to do so, thin skinned, and on top of all this, they continue to choke in the biggest moments from lack of coaching presence.

But, hey, they just love their coach and he's a really good guy who they all just love.

 

[PSU Blue]

Meanwhile Klopp is burned out from the pressure of Liverpool. I'm willing to bet a new home on the beach in Los Angeles will be enough to get him reinvigorated for the USMNT. Willing to put my house on it. But first, fire Berhalter, he is literally indefensible at this point.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

I’m not arguing that Berhalter should keep his job. He probably should be fired. But it wasn’t his fault that idiot got thrown out of the game. That was why we lost: not because our coach stinks

The guy is an awful manager, has been for years. Its not just a bad tournament only. He has a loser mentality, horrible offensive strategy. Telling his team the score of the other game during a match is Berhalter in a nutshell.

 

[Delcolion915]

The guy is an awful manager, has been for years. Its not just a bad tournament only. He has a loser mentality, horrible offensive strategy. Telling his team the score of the other game during a match is Berhalter in a nutshell.

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Horrible look. I don't have any idea what kind of incriminating pictures he has of the higher ups, or whose nephew he is, but he has GOT TO GO. Frankly it's embarrassing 3 days have gone by and he's not gone yet. Pathetic.

 

[Delcolion915]

Meanwhile Klopp is burned out from the pressure of Liverpool. I'm willing to bet a new home on the beach in Los Angeles will be enough to get him reinvigorated for the USMNT. Willing to put my house on it. But first, fire Berhalter, he is literally indefensible at this point.

Write the check. If Klopp is a miss then write a bigger check and fly out to Paris to see Zidane.

But go big or go home. Jim Gordon won't cut it.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

 

[LionDeNittany]

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And they were right to do this.

LdN

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

And they were right to do this.

LdN

Whys that? US Soccer is a disgrace.

 

[LionDeNittany]

Whys that? US Soccer is a disgrace.

Never said it wasn't.

 

[NitneLiun]

Berhalter has to go, but it can't stop with him. The entire upper level of US Soccer management has to go or nothing will change.

 

[dbbp]

Looks like we are all feeling the same way. They create zero one on ones. They have one of the most predicable offenses in the world. That back end is horrible. Every 8 years they try and change philosophy’s. Give Klopp the Messi treatment. Whatever that man wants DONE!

 

[Obliviax]

Unconfirmed but…

 

[SEPATOPTEN]

They could've played that game continuously until the next Copa America and wouldn't have scored a goal. It's laughable that these players feel that they have to leave this country and MLS to go to Europe to play their club soccer so that they're prepared to play well in these tournaments, and then proceed to score three goals in three games while playing two very underwhelming opponents.

Maybe these players should start staying in the MLS and being main players on their teams and getting a lot of playing time and making that league better.

The reason is obvious, money and much better competition.