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I'm currently reading a book about the Florida Gators football history, and I came upon an interesting tidbit from the 1962 Gator Bowl played between Florida and PSU. In that game, PSU was 9-1 and heavily favored. Florida actually wore helmets that had the Confederate Battle Flag on them because they were playing a Northern school. Unfortunately, they upset PSU 17-7. The only photo that I could download is attached.

Florida Gators 1962 Gator Bowl Helmet vs Penn State Riddell Speed

www.gridironhelmets.com
 
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In 1962 Florida was a Southern state. With all the transplants over the years, it’s now a Northern state. ;)
 
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bcspsu said:
I'm currently reading a book about the Florida Gators football history, and I came upon an interesting tidbit from the 1962 Gator Bowl played between Florida and PSU. In that game, PSU was 9-1 and heavily favored. Florida actually wore helmets that had the Confederate Battle Flag on them because they were playing a Northern school. Unfortunately, they upset PSU 17-7. The only photo that I could download is attached.

Florida Gators 1962 Gator Bowl Helmet vs Penn State Riddell Speed

www.gridironhelmets.com
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Interestingly that is the only bowl game Rip Engle lost. He was 3-1. Would have hoped for more than 4 bowl games in 16 seasons though.
 
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ryoder1 said:
Interestingly that is the only bowl game Rip Engle lost. He was 3-1. Would have hoped for more than 4 bowl games in 16 seasons though.
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After I read the section in the book about that bowl game, I looked up Rip Engle's all time record at PSU, which was 104-48-4. Thus, he was very successful and put the program on really solid footing, which Paterno took to another level. I guess that there just weren't a lot of bowl games when he coached PSU.
 
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Engle winning basically a smidge more than two out of every three games wouldn't appease Penn State fans. His winning percentage was .679 as an Indpendent. Franklin's winning percentage at Penn State is .693 in the Big 10 and fans calling for his head.
 
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saturdaysarebetter2 said:
Engle winning basically a smidge more than two out of every three games wouldn't appease Penn State fans. His winning percentage was .679 as an Indpendent. Franklin's winning percentage at Penn State is .693 in the Big 10 and fans calling for his head.
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Are you really comparing CFB in the 1950s with today?
Also, JVP, over 46 yrs, had a win percentage of .749, which included the dark years...so if you want to try to play a comparison game, Joe in his prime (which JF is currently in), was probably close to .100 better.

Now, FTR, this isn't me making a judgement on JF, but your attempt to use Rip Engle as a defense of JF doesn't rate.
 
heckmans said:
Are you really comparing CFB in the 1950s with today?
Also, JVP, over 46 yrs, had a win percentage of .749, which included the dark years...so if you want to try to play a comparison game, Joe in his prime (which JF is currently in), was probably close to .100 better.

Now, FTR, this isn't me making a judgement on JF, but your attempt to use Rip Engle as a defense of JF doesn't rate.
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Shall we compare apples to apples?
Joe Paterno coaching record as a Big 10 member 162-69-0 .701
James Franklin coaching record as a Big 10 member 88-39-0 .693
 
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bcspsu said:
I'm currently reading a book about the Florida Gators football history, and I came upon an interesting tidbit from the 1962 Gator Bowl played between Florida and PSU. In that game, PSU was 9-1 and heavily favored. Florida actually wore helmets that had the Confederate Battle Flag on them because they were playing a Northern school. Unfortunately, they upset PSU 17-7. The only photo that I could download is attached.

Florida Gators 1962 Gator Bowl Helmet vs Penn State Riddell Speed

www.gridironhelmets.com
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Must have been that southern speed
 
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86Engineer said:
Did you need that "Ps.", jackass?

Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.
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Someone was assaulted probably rated but not Paterno's fault. Do people think it makes Paterno look better if they pretend nothing happened? I'd so, why? He did exactly what he needed to
 
LandoComando said:
Someone was assaulted probably rated but not Paterno's fault. Do people think it makes Paterno look better if they pretend nothing happened? I'd so, why? He did exactly what he needed to
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I don't know wtf you are trying to say (at least before any edit).

Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.
 
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voltz99 said:
Do you expect coaches after Paterno to actually win more than Paterno?


Ps. Nobody got raped in the showers while jf was coach.
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Wow. You were the one making dumb comparisons...and then you went THERE, which was uncalled for and completely unrelated to the point of the post.
 
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86Engineer said:
I don't know wtf you are trying to say (at least before any edit).

Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.
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My phone autocorrect raped to rated--if you have any intelligence you'd have figured that out
Were you there? There was an assault in the shower and possibly rape.
You falsely believe if Sandusky was determined to be not guilty it would change something but it's irrelevant to how people view Paterno. Those that believe he did something wrong, AGAIN HE DIDN'T, still would say he was told and didn't do enough.
Sandusky is a pedophile. Accept that. The fact a single Penn State fan argues this is why Paterno's reputation will never recover until that group dies off.
 
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My room mate and I hitch hiked from Pitts to Jacksonville for this game. Took only 3 rides to get to Jacksonville but took 28 hrs to get back. What a waste. David Robinson played in that game. Florida had confederate flags on their helmets .
 
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saturdaysarebetter2 said:
Engle winning basically a smidge more than two out of every three games wouldn't appease Penn State fans. His winning percentage was .679 as an Indpendent. Franklin's winning percentage at Penn State is .693 in the Big 10 and fans calling for his head.
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Personally, I am happy with his overall record, my problem is the seeming inability to play with Michigan and Ohio State. I would think 18-40 should be a hell of a lot better than what it is. It’s getting frustrating that the Buckeyes beat us like a dead horse EVERY year.
 
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LandoComando said:
My phone autocorrect raped to rated--if you have any intelligence you'd have figured that out
Were you there? There was an assault in the shower and possibly rape.
You falsely believe if Sandusky was determined to be not guilty it would change something but it's irrelevant to how people view Paterno. Those that believe he did something wrong, AGAIN HE DIDN'T, still would say he was told and didn't do enough.
Sandusky is a pedophile. Accept that. The fact a single Penn State fan argues this is why Paterno's reputation will never recover until that group dies off.
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That explains one word....what about the rest of it?

Were you there? Is that you, Mike?

You're the only one that keeps bringing up Sandusky.

What I said was: Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.
 
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86Engineer said:
That explains one word....what about the rest of it?

Were you there? Is that you, Mike?

You're the only one that keeps bringing up Sandusky.

What I said was: Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.
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And again someone was assault and possibly raped. Period. Deal with reality
 
LandoComando said:
And again someone was assault and possibly raped. Period. Deal with reality
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I understand what the allegations were. However, the reality is that the term “rape” entered the narrative under false pretenses, after which the ear witness tried to correct but was told to shut up. There is documentation to prove this, which makes it indisputable.

On the other hand, what you are claiming is disputable. Period.
 
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For someone that had low testerosterone and E.D. and hypogonadism, I know some individuals find it easy to f*ck up in life like Biden, but literally and logistically, it doesn't add up for Sandusky in the shower with a teen.

www.dailymail.co.uk

New medical evidence in Jerry Sandusky case casts doubt on rape claims

Crucial medical evidence that could have cleared Jerry Sandusky was never presented to his trial because he was 'embarrassed about it,' DailyMail.com can exclusively reveal.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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86Engineer said:
I understand what the allegations were. However, the reality is that the term “rape” entered the narrative under false pretenses, after which the ear witness tried to correct but was told to shut up. There is documentation to prove this, which makes it indisputable.

On the other hand, what you are claiming is disputable. Period.
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Only two people know if rape occurred..
Saying definitively it didn't is falsely. Hence possibly. How is possibly disputable?
 
LandoComando said:
Only two people know if rape occurred..
Saying definitively it didn't is falsely. Hence possibly. How is possibly disputable?
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Only two people do know....and McQueary (you?) is definitely NOT one of them.

So of the two, we know that one, and most likely both, has said that no assault, and definitely NO rape, occurred. That's what makes the allegation disputable.

See how that works?
 
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86Engineer said:
Only two people do know....and McQueary (you?) is definitely NOT one of them.

So of the two, we know that one, and most likely both, has said that no assault, and definitely NO rape, occurred. That's what makes the allegation disputable.

See how that works?
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McQueary isn't one of the two--Sandusky and the victim
Saying it doesn't mean anything--people, especially men, won't acknowledge rape when it occurs. There was definitely an assault (your reply in laughable) and possibly rape.
You saying "definitely no rape" is you desperately believe that makes Joe look better when it has zero impact on how Paterno is viewed by anyone.
 
LandoComando said:
McQueary isn't one of the two--Sandusky and the victim
Saying it doesn't mean anything--people, especially men, won't acknowledge rape when it occurs. There was definitely an assault (your reply in laughable) and possibly rape.
You saying "definitely no rape" is you desperately believe that makes Joe look better when it has zero impact on how Paterno is viewed by anyone.
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You don't have a clue regarding what I believe.

Back to my original point: Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.

Of the two that know, Sandusky and the victim, we know that one, and most likely both, has said that NO rape occurred. All evidence also points to that....not to mention the FACT that Sandusky was acquitted on that specific charge.

You lose....again.
 
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86Engineer said:
You don't have a clue regarding what I believe.

Back to my original point: Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.

Of the two that know, Sandusky and the victim, we know that one, and most likely both, has said that NO rape occurred. All evidence also points to that....not to mention the FACT that Sandusky was acquitted on that specific charge.

You lose....again.
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Where you there?
A verdict in court is always correct?
 
86Engineer said:
You don't have a clue regarding what I believe.

Back to my original point: Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.

Of the two that know, Sandusky and the victim, we know that one, and most likely both, has said that NO rape occurred. All evidence also points to that....not to mention the FACT that Sandusky was acquitted on that specific charge.

You lose....again.
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The clown/gnome is baiting you.
 
86Engineer said:
Were you there? Is that you, Mike?

Juries get it wrong all the time.....this entire saga is a prime example. Thank you for admitting that!
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I wasn't there hence "possibly"
Oh so now Sandusky is innocent? Thanks for admitting I was right the first time but you argued it anyone.
 
LandoComando said:
I wasn't there hence "possibly"
Oh so now Sandusky is innocent? Thanks for admitting I was right the first time but you argued it anyone.
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Now you're making stuff up, as you are clearly floundering.....I'll admit that.

You lose....again.
 
86Engineer said:
Now you're making stuff up, as you are clearly floundering.....I'll admit that.

You lose....again.
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The bozo knows there wasn't a single assault at Penn State. He's baiting and trying to get the thread closed.
 
86Engineer said:
Now you're making stuff up, as you are clearly floundering.....I'll admit that.

You lose....again.
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You lost before you start as you dont comprehend the word possibly but you believe that if Sandusky is innocent it would change public opinion in Joe when it wouldn't.
 
86Engineer said:
You don't have a clue regarding what I believe.

Back to my original point: Nobody got raped in the showers. Period.

Of the two that know, Sandusky and the victim, we know that one, and most likely both, has said that NO rape occurred. All evidence also points to that....not to mention the FACT that Sandusky was acquitted on that specific charge.

You lose....again.
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How long will Pitiots continue to obsess?
 
86Engineer said:
You're still floundering....and losing.
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You lost long ago buddy--and the fact you think Sandusky is innocent proves that
Again, Sandusky assault someone on campus and potentially raped. Accept it. Stop worrying about how what happened impacts Joe. Joe is dead and irrelevant.
 
LandoComando said:
Someone was assaulted probably rated but not Paterno's fault. Do people think it makes Paterno look better if they pretend nothing happened? I'd so, why? He did exactly what he needed to
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There's no evidence of anybody being rated.
 
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