Tom Bradley - recruiting threat to PSU

[RickinDayton]

Coach Bradley, new DC @ UCLA is pushing hard for PSU targets Oluwole Betiku, 5 star DE from CA and McKeesport, PA Safety Kahileke Hudson. I believe Coach Bradley might have some bigger sway with the CA player because Lavar, who is the CA kid's legal guardian, played for Bradley @ PSU. Additionaly, Bradley is a known and trusted coach in western PA.

Potential trouble for us with these 2 recruits?

 

[Lion78]

Betiku, most definitely. He lives in CA now and has CA boys in his ear as well. Much easier choice to pick UCLA (Lavar's comfort with Scrap and location is closer).

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

 

[sluggo72]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

Poaching??? The kid has signed???

 

[wilbury]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

Poaching is the name of the game. He wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't cherry picking our recruits. We'll lose a few, that's the way it goes. No sense worrying about it.

 

[OMPats13]

I wouldnt call trying to get a kid from California poaching.

 

[bmejnes]

It would be more of a negative for Tom, if he didn't land the boy from CA.. He is in his back yard! Hudson might like to go and learn how to surf or might stay in Pa and save the 3000 mile trip...

Think people like to make up connections to the old staff for some reason..

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

Poaching is the name of the game. He wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't cherry picking our recruits. We'll lose a few, that's the way it goes. No sense worrying about it.

Tom Bradley was trained better, at least I thought so.

 

[Pocono Lion]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

Since when is recruiting a prospect hard who hasn't verballed yet poaching? What, nobody else can recruit a kid that has shown some PSU interest? Come on, and yes I think Scrap will be a threat. Not a major one, but for PA kids who may be looking to get away, he will be selling UCLA hard, not that UCLA is a hard sell.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Coach Bradley, new DC @ UCLA is pushing hard for PSU targets Oluwole Betiku, 5 star DE from CA and McKeesport, PA Safety Kahileke Hudson. I believe Coach Bradley might have some bigger sway with the CA player because Lavar, who is the CA kid's legal guardian, played for Bradley @ PSU. Additionaly, Bradley is a known and trusted coach in western PA.

Potential trouble for us with these 2 recruits?

I think this is silly. Are PSU and UCLA the only 2 recruiting these prospects? No, not at all. Is Scrap supposed to only recruit prospects that are not being recruited by PSU? Since he doesn't work for PSU, I don't see why anyone would expect him to not recruit any prospect that is also being recruited by PSU. If he did that, he wouldn't be giving all of his effort to his job at UCLA.

Betiku may become a PSU - UCLA battle. They certainly seem to be 2 of the stronger contenders for Betiku, but it seems as though Betiku is a long way from making a decision. If Betiku picks UCLA, I don't think it will be solely because of Scrap.

Hudson seems less likely to become a PSU - UCLA battle, but anything is possible.

Every coach that is recruiting Betiku and recruiting Hudson is potential trouble for PSU, and vice versa for those schools with regards to CJF and his staff.

 

[THEEHMANN]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

Poaching?? And what do you call Franklin for tearing the best recruits away from Vanderbilt? Come on now. All is fair in recruiting, especially when a kid hasn't even given a verbal as of yet.

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

Poaching?? And what do you call Franklin for tearing the best recruits away from Vanderbilt? Come on now. All is fair in recruiting, especially when a kid hasn't even given a verbal as of yet.

Poaching. When an individual changes jobs and can't succeed without relying/poaching former contacts, they are essentially signaling that they can't adapt to their new situation.

 

[RickinDayton]

I think this is silly. Are PSU and UCLA the only 2 recruiting these prospects? No, not at all. Is Scrap supposed to only recruit prospects that are not being recruited by PSU? Since he doesn't work for PSU, I don't see why anyone would expect him to not recruit any prospect that is also being recruited by PSU. If he did that, he wouldn't be giving all of his effort to his job at UCLA.

Betiku may become a PSU - UCLA battle. They certainly seem to be 2 of the stronger contenders for Betiku, but it seems as though Betiku is a long way from making a decision. If Betiku picks UCLA, I don't think it will be solely because of Scrap.

Hudson seems less likely to become a PSU - UCLA battle, but anything is possible.

Every coach that is recruiting Betiku and recruiting Hudson is potential trouble for PSU, and vice versa for those schools with regards to CJF and his staff.

 

[RickinDayton]

Tom,

Apparently people are misintepreting the intention of my post. Those accusing Bradley of "poaching" are way off base. My point, going forward, Bradley does present a recruiting hurdle for PSU because of his familiarity with western PA and the comfort level and trust he had formerly built upwhile coaching @ PSU. Looking ahead to the 2017 class - Lamont Wade from westerna PA is one of the top DBs in America and you can be sure that Bradley will be recruiting him.

I hold no ill will toward Tom Bradley; nor do I believe he should not recruit back here, simply pointing out the additional challenge we now face in keeping PAs best in the state for PSU.

Wanted to clarify.

 

[Fizz1]

Bradley has strong ties in PA, and has earned trust over the years. It would be foolish for him not to keep the relationships and communication with high school coaches. It is natural to leverage that. May the best recruiter win, whether it is Bradley, Franklin or someone else. Franklin's reputation will build one way or another over the next few years. It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

Those accusing Bradley of "poaching" are way off base..

I stand by my comments that if Tom Bradley can't find success at UCLA without relying on legacy contacts in Western Pennsylvania, then he's in over his head and doesn't have the capacity to adapt to new and unfamiliar surroundings. Further, I don't consider myself way off base.

 

[lionlurker]

Bradley would be stupid not to use every advantage that he can bring to the table, and furthermore, he would be cheating his employers if he did not do so. What loyalty does he owe to PSU, anyhow? Do any of us feel the same loyalty to PSU after how the jackals that run the school have treated us?

You go, Scrap. May the best man win.

 

[rjg82]

I stand by my comments that if Tom Bradley can't find success at UCLA without relying on legacy contacts in Western Pennsylvania, then he's in over his head and doesn't have the capacity to adapt to new and unfamiliar surroundings. Further, I don't consider myself way off base.

"Contacts"... Isn't that what it's all about? Trusted contacts that have trust in you and value your abilities? Honestly Pool Boy you are way off base here. In my job I still go back to friends/colleagues from the 90's for references and networking even though I have had 3 jobs since that time. All successful people do that.

 

[Pocono Lion]

I stand by my comments that if Tom Bradley can't find success at UCLA without relying on legacy contacts in Western Pennsylvania, then he's in over his head and doesn't have the capacity to adapt to new and unfamiliar surroundings. Further, I don't consider myself way off base.

Then that puts you in the minority. Ever consider the possibility that one of the reasons that UCLA hired him was his recruiting contacts in the east, particularly in western PA? It would be ludicrous for him not to use his strengths. Part of adapting to the new is relying on what got you there in the first place.

 

[Art]

I stand by my comments that if Tom Bradley can't find success at UCLA without relying on legacy contacts in Western Pennsylvania, then he's in over his head and doesn't have the capacity to adapt to new and unfamiliar surroundings. Further, I don't consider myself way off base.

Every time I've changed jobs I've used contacts developed in previous jobs and have wooed clients from my old firms. Benefited me, my new firm, AND my clients. And no one ever said I was in over my head, particularly my former employer(s). If PSU didn't want to face Bradley as a competitor, then it should have done more to retain him.

 

[ChandlerPearce]

Worrying about scrap getting a few kids is ridiculous. I think some guy named Meyer, or Saban, or Harbaugh are far more likely to be a challenge. If a prospect doesn't want PennState, rather they go to UCLA than OSU or Michigan. I have the utmost faith in our staff.

 

[Lion8286]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

One of the stupidest posts EVER. Embarassing. . .

 

[lobo lion]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

Please tell me that was TIC. What Bradley is doing is so clearly not poaching, and so clearly not being done in desperation, that it's not even worthy of discussion.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Did You Poach this Post? WTF?

 

[psuro]

One of the stupidest posts EVER. Embarassing. . .

*slaps forehead* and wonders is proximity to chlorine has affected the Pool Boy

 

[Chris92]

I stand by my comments that if Tom Bradley can't find success at UCLA without relying on legacy contacts in Western Pennsylvania, then he's in over his head and doesn't have the capacity to adapt to new and unfamiliar surroundings. Further, I don't consider myself way off base.

Not rely on legacy contacts? Right, employers often demand you leave your "book of business" at home and constantly beat your head against the wall cold calling. Even your boss knows this.

 

[psuguy04]

I stand by my comments that if Tom Bradley can't find success at UCLA without relying on legacy contacts in Western Pennsylvania, then he's in over his head and doesn't have the capacity to adapt to new and unfamiliar surroundings. Further, I don't consider myself way off base.

Translation: I thought Tom Bradley was the best coach ever. When neither PSU staff retained him, I got mad. Now that he has had other coaching jobs and recruits against PSU, I'm mad.

 

[danvillenit]

One of the stupidest posts EVER. Embarassing. . .

+1

 

[palehorse]

I stand by my comments that if Tom Bradley can't find success at UCLA without relying on legacy contacts in Western Pennsylvania, then he's in over his head and doesn't have the capacity to adapt to new and unfamiliar surroundings. Further, I don't consider myself way off base.

Stop digging.

 

[ga.lion]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

Now that is simply dumb. He is the defensive coordinator of UCLA and obviously interested in bringing the best kids he can into the program. Poaching? lol

 

[uppermaclion]

I'm sure Bradley is being asked to recruit the areas and people he knows. So this is totally expected. I would think Franklin is more a threat to UCLA recruiting the Bradley is to PSU, given by the fact we all seen what Franklin can do. So this is all just part of the game.

 

[nits74]

It will be disappointing to learn that Tom Bradley feels that he can't be successful in a new position without poaching. That is a generally a move of desperate individuals lacking the knowledge of how to adapt to new situations or surroundings. Fish out of water comes to mind.

The warning signs are there.

Tom Bradley owes nothing to Penn State. And I highly doubt that the word desperate applies to him.

 

[Evan Ceg]

Tom Bradley hasn't worked for Penn State since 2011. He is well paid by UCLA to be the most effective coach he can be. For Bradley to avoid Franklin's recruits out of some sense of loyalty to PSU would be to cheat his present employer. If Penn State is that worried about Bradley's "poaching" (which it's not), then PSU should give Bradley a job he wants at PSU (which it won't).

The notion that Bradley shouldn't go after a recruit that Penn State likes is silly, as several posters, including Mr. McAndrew, have said.

 

[T J]

I stand by my comments that if Tom Bradley can't find success at UCLA without relying on legacy contacts in Western Pennsylvania, then he's in over his head and doesn't have the capacity to adapt to new and unfamiliar surroundings. Further, I don't consider myself way off base.

Franklin has PA contacts. Should he not use them?
Franklin also now has contacts in the SEC. Should he not use them?

Franklin was hired in part because of the areas where he may have a recruiting edge, because of his contacts. Guessing Scrap was too.

Two good recruiters. Hope PSU wins, but Bradley is a relentless recruiter, like Franklin.

 

[N&B4PSU]

+1

are we still allowed to use +1?? you must be one of those guys holding on to the thread view!

 

[pkg5002]

Wow, I cant believe we are actually discussing about this ridiculous topic. Pool boy, you are the only one who feels that way. Betiku is a CA kid, not a PA kid. Annd he hasn't committed to any program yet. "Poaching" is a word that shouldn't come any where close to a discussion like this one.

 

[psu1969a]

Coach Bradley, new DC @ UCLA is pushing hard for PSU targets Oluwole Betiku, 5 star DE from CA and McKeesport, PA Safety Kahileke Hudson. I believe Coach Bradley might have some bigger sway with the CA player because Lavar, who is the CA kid's legal guardian, played for Bradley @ PSU. Additionaly, Bradley is a known and trusted coach in western PA.

Potential trouble for us with these 2 recruits?

NO! kids will make up their own minds; really have no idea who Tom Bradley is.