tOSU = 7 top 100 players.....sum of other B10 schools=6
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Had to sneak in the “Paterno didn’t know” quip didn’t you, you piece of shit. Why don’t you go away jackass. You want to talk football, fine....but once you throw in the Sandusky references you need to ****ing go.
Cone on, enough with the hyperbole. Does this happen? Yes, but I don't believe it is rampant @ those schools.
Ohio is cesspool of corruption, drug addiction, sexual assault, and general ignorance. I'd sell ohio to the highest bidder. Russia, France, Canada, Saudi Arabia, whoever. I'd sell the whole population into slavery and send them to the salt mines if I was in charge.
Yes because everyone would bend over backwards to attend school in beautiful, balmy, downtown Columbus Ohio.
Given how they are calculated, there is almost no need to fudge them. But, yes, they can be fudged, by PSU as well as any other school, though if a school decides to "fudge" grad rates reported to the DoE then it's inviting getting its scrotum run through a wringer.
But that's okay, we'll just ignore reported data and instead go with what we know in our minds to be true. Welcome to America in 2019.
I’m not saying they fudge the percentage, but it can be fudged other ways...”yeah, you passed this course, Chase....gonna tear up those Nittany Lions on Saturday right?” Until they can get a count on the percentage of professors that are fanboys and give the athletes a little more leeway, grad rates aren’t really accurate.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not who we are not.
These 27 individuals have made a choice to work, a choice to sacrifice, to put themselves on the line from 44 up to 60 times in the next 4-5 years to represent you, this university. That kind of commitment and effort deserves and commands your respect. This is your team.
Maybe. But if so, the same holds true of PSU, so, then, the practice of saying that the other schools players don't go to class has no validity.
New(s) = when OSU doesn’t have a top 15 recruiting year, that imo will be news.
I do not know what their ranking was in the days of Cooper and Tressel ( the later I think pretty good).
And I would certainly acknowledge that since Urban M. They have gone to the top, showing no sign of weakening with their natl recruiting ( imo we have done much better with tha and have to given the pa. Decline bordering on collapse.
In the days of Woody Hayes, I would imagine they did quite well.
I do not know what their ranking was in the days of Cooper and Tressel ( the later I think pretty good).
And I would certainly acknowledge that since Urban M. They have gone to the top, showing no sign of weakening with their natl recruiting ( imo we have done much better with tha and have to given the pa. Decline bordering on collapse.
In the days of Woody Hayes, I would imagine they did quite well.
True, but PSU’s grad rate has been high for years....many of the other schools grad rates only got better once they really started publicizing it....interesting how that works.
Six years into the job and fan satisfaction with a 65% conference winning percentage should be reserved for places like Pitt. We are not "turning the corner." We are treading water. 2016 appears to have been an aberration. CJF caught lightening in a bottle in the combination of Morehead, Barkley, Godwin, Trace, Gesiki, etc... Sure, this year we 'punched above our weight class' but Franklin's forte is recruiting. He is beginning to slip because most recruiting rankings have us outside the top ten. Not good! Unless Franklin manages to secure a NFL-caliber staff, like what's at tOSU, he won't survive the grind because he's not a strong tactician.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I think CJF gets a pass on the 2014 and 2015 seasons, he inherited a team with something like 55 players on scholarship. No doubt 2016 he caught lightning in a bottle.
I do know this, he very easily could be 4-2 against Ohio State with a few breaks along the way. 2014 literally got screwed by the zebras. 2017 and 2018 lost by 1 point each year. A little more depth, a caught pass instead of a drop, eliminate a Sanders fumble and PSU wins both of those games.
CJF has improved the talent level on the team every year, the PSU staff does a great job of developing players and finding diamonds in the rough, I think PSU is at the point where winning 2 out of 5 against them should be the expectation. Now it is a matter of actually doing it. I realize that 2 out of 5 is 40%, I accept that Ohio State is going to do things that PSU is not to attract better talent.
Take this past season, if the NCAA does not give Ohio State a free pass on the Fields transfer with immediate eligibility, Tate Martell is their QB and there is a good change that PSU is in the playoff and not them. Fields, a guy who was originally committed to PSU.
The BCS (pushing SEC) and the CFP, using eye test rather than only actual champions, pushes recruits toward these schools. Slive knew it would. Delaney only claims to know this now. It’s a profound effect.
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Give him a pass for 2014 and 2015. Four years is still a lifetime in this industry.
I believe it was Johnny Majors who once said, "Football is a game of breaks and mistakes." You've got to play through it.
Leave no doubt, Franklin has improved the talent level but it hasn't translated to the field. We have yet to make the playoffs. If I was Franklin's boss I'd sit him down and ask him: 1) what's your greatest fear and 2) what's preventing you from getting there. I assume Sandy has done so.
I would be happy beating tOSU 40% of the time but these blowout losses every other year to Michigan are embarrassing. Invariably you lose one game per year you shouldn't lose because it's tough to get the kids up emotionally every week. I thought Joe Burrows would be at tOSU if Fields hadn't arrived. If true, then that doesn't portend well for us. If tOSU can use the transfer portal to its advantage then why can't we. Let's stop worrying about which players we might lose and speculate who we can get.
Bottom line, some folks are happy with a participation trophy. They'll gladly renew their season tickets because it's all about the gameday experience, the tailgating, etc... Who am I to argue against it. But CJF is paid the big bucks for a reason. There's other coaching talent out there that's lean and hungry.
Thank you.
I agree. And let's not let these kids down with putting people in charge who don't get the most out of them. Prepare them for real life outside college football.
No sir.
Burrows was the LSU QB last year, while Haskins was the Buckeyes QB and Fields was at UGA. I don't know the exact time line if his transfer, but his not being the Buckeye QB has nothing to do with Fields.
How about an ad hominem attack when you can't spell? But then it wouldn't be ad hominem then, would it, Chester?
Burrow was a nice college QB last year at LSU, this year everything fell into place, no idea if that occurs if Burrow stays at OSU. Same for Fields, he was alright at UGA last year, everything clicked at OSU this year.
New OC Joe Brady - Broyles Award winner - made the difference for Burrow at LSU. As for Fields, totally different offensive system at OSU than Georgia which is why he chose Day and OSU.
So everyone that is ranked above us doesn't play by the rules and we're the only one that does? WOW
Here’s a scary thought (and I’m just playing Devil’s advocate here... it’s obvious O$U and Clem$on and those guys buy their recruit$)
But what if they aren’t? (I’m mean, obviously they are giving kids cash in exchange for $igning LOI’s.. why else would all these top recruits go there....) but what if these kids are picking these schools (O$U, Bama, Clem$on, UGA, etc.) because of a perpetuating system of winning drawing the interest of the top recruits, and the top recruits bring more winning, and it keeps going and going and gaining steam like a snow ball rolling down a mountain.
If a program could do that without all the cheating and paying the players, that’s the type of program I want.
too bad it doesn’t exist
Not to let facts get in the way, but they had the 21st ranked recruiting class last year. Is/was that news?
I agree. One of the most honest and truthful posts I've seen on this board !!! GO BLUE !!!
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