Doesn't matter if he loses to Michigan if he wins national championships.Is it voidable if he loses to Michigan?
Hypothetical question: If Ryan Day had beat Michigan and won the national championship this past season, do you think that the terms of his contract extension would even be more lucrative?Doesn't matter if he loses to Michigan if he wins national championships.
Possibly a little more lucrative. The Michigan game is not going to be nearly as important as it was in the past. It used to be if you lost the game most of your season was over. Not the case now. Long-term Ohio is a better place for football, Ohio State recruits better than Michigan and Ohio State should start beating Michigan again like it has done for most of the century. Also, I doubt that the athletic director is as extreme as a significant portion of Ohio State fans. Nick Saban recently commented that one year he lost to Auburn but nobody remembers because he won the national championship.Hypothetical question: If Ryan Day had beat Michigan and won the national championship this past season, do you think that the terms of his contract extension would even be more lucrative?
Dec 6: Ryan Day on the hot seat. He probably needs to win the Natty to save his job.
Results speak for themselvesDec 6: Ryan Day on the hot seat. He probably needs to win the Natty to save his job.
Feb 6: Ryan Day's contract extended until 2031, and will earn $12.5M
How fickle things are in today's world
Winning a national championship is a 'salve' that can even heal Buckeye fans after losing to UM on the gridiron.Possibly a little more lucrative. The Michigan game is not going to be nearly as important as it was in the past. It used to be if you lost the game most of your season was over. Not the case now. Long-term Ohio is a better place for football, Ohio State recruits better than Michigan and Ohio State should start beating Michigan again like it has done for most of the century. Also, I doubt that the athletic director is as extreme as a significant portion of Ohio State fans. Nick Saban recently commented that one year he lost to Auburn but nobody remembers because he won the national championship.
With the playoffs as they are now I think those rivalries are less important. But still, that wouldn't be a good look to Buckeye Fans.Is it voidable if he loses to Michigan?
Interesting thing is that Urban Meyer stated several years ago that he felt it was more important to win the rivalry game rather than the national championship-- I disagreed with it then as I do now.Winning a national championship is a 'salve' that can even heal Buckeye fans after losing to UM on the gridiron.
It's still never going to be fun for an OSU coach who loses to UM unless and until he leads the team to that championship.
That is such a dumb comment. Just as stupid is Meyer's insistence on not saying "Michigan". He says "The Wolverines" or "The team up north". I actually think calling them the "Wolverines" is more endearing than just referring to them as Michigan.Interesting thing is that Urban Meyer stated several years ago that he felt it was more important to win the rivalry game rather than the national championship-- I disagreed with it then as I do now.
Have to agree. Old, diehard OSU and Michigan fans probably don't want to hear it, but with the new 12-team Playoff, there will be one main goal......get in the Playoffs and win it all. And it's not just OSU-Michigan. You can include Alabama-Auburn, Texas-OK, and all of the othersWith the playoffs as they are now I think those rivalries are less important. But still, that wouldn't be a good look to Buckeye Fans.
Next season they are likely to go to a 14 or 16 team format too which will make those games even less meaningful across the country. The Big and SEC want four teams in every year. I guess they are likely to get that if it expands and I think it will.Have to agree. Old, diehard OSU and Michigan fans probably don't want to hear it, but with the new 12-team Playoff, there will be one main goal......get in the Playoffs and win it all. And it's not just OSU-Michigan. You can include Alabama-Auburn, Texas-OK, and all of the others
If that ever happened it would be huge. Really hope they get rid of Big 10 Championship game which is simply a detriment to winning the national championship. PSU getting to semifinals is much bigger than the potential of winning the championship game. The fact that 4th place OSU team thumped Big champion shows how little it means. Just another game.Wait till the year they play THE Game, then the following week meet for the Big 10 Championship Game, and then meet in the playoff and they can argue which of the three had the most meaning.
The B2G is on it's way to being dead...kiIIed by conference expansion and the expanded playoff. Good Riddance! The other (n-2) teams of the B1G will all be better off.Wait till the year they play THE Game, then the following week meet for the Big 10 Championship Game, and then meet in the playoff and they can argue which of the three had the most meaning.
Maybe it had more to due with a $20 million payroll than coaching.Regardless of any opinions...he earned that
No doubt that's a factor in their successMaybe it had more to due with a $20 million payroll than coaching.
Not to Bucknut FansDoesn't matter if he loses to Michigan if he wins national championships.
We're spending a lot on coaches and facilities. You can argue that those things attract good players but I seriously doubt that they're as effective as direct cash payments to players.No doubt that's a factor in their success
Just like every team that wins a title will be spending heavily. See us for next year.
This is where I disagree--we're spending a ton on players--the information isn't leaking as much because we keep our own guys. Allar, Singleton, Allen, DDS, Durant, etc aren't coming back cheap. Those 20M vs 12M numbers are estimates--both are likely spending way more.We're spending a lot on coaches and facilities. You can argue that those things attract good players but I seriously doubt that they're as effective as direct cash payments to players.
I don't know the exact numbers but we've read that OSU had $20 million vs $12 million for PSU. That gives OSU a big advantage. If revenue sharing goes through OSU will have $40 million combined vs PSU's $32 million combined. It's going to be difficult for PSU to catch up. Columbus is home to 16 Fortune 1000 companies.
90% of college football programs would love to have PSU's money but it's going to be difficult to keep up with top programs like Texas, OSU, Oregon, Alabama, etc.
I would leave Alabama out of your list because they are not located in a very large city. Although as a matter of principle, I oppose nil because it makes the playing field even more uneven, it does give Ohio State a big advantage because there is no sports entity in Columbus that really competes with Ohio State, and Ohio State has access to a huge amount of resources. Also, in fairness the players obtained through nil from other colleges, have appeared to be very good kids. Seth McLaughlin, Caleb downs, Will Howard, and Quinshon Judkins appear to be good dudes. I was afraid that nil would bring in selfish arrogant players and that doesn't appear to be the case.We're spending a lot on coaches and facilities. You can argue that those things attract good players but I seriously doubt that they're as effective as direct cash payments to players.
I don't know the exact numbers but we've read that OSU had $20 million vs $12 million for PSU. That gives OSU a big advantage. If revenue sharing goes through OSU will have $40 million combined vs PSU's $32 million combined. It's going to be difficult for PSU to catch up. Columbus is home to 16 Fortune 1000 companies.
90% of college football programs would love to have PSU's money but it's going to be difficult to keep up with top programs like Texas, OSU, Oregon, Alabama, etc.
he might not even make the playoffs next year and will be back on the hot seat.Is it voidable if he loses to Michigan?