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Turning the corner.....

hmm, I'll believe it when I see it.

I went to 3 stores on Wednesday (not my intention, but I had to go to 3 to find, collectively, the 7 or 8 products I was seeking), and wasn't even trying to purchase paper products. However, out of curiosity I checked the availability of paper products at all 3. 1 of the 3 was out of all paper products. The 2nd of the 3 had a small amount of toilet paper available as single rolls, with a limit of purchasing only 2, and no other paper products. The 3rd had a few work/desktop mini-boxes of tissues (no-name brand), and a few packages of 2 rolls of paper towels (again, non-name brand), and no other paper products.
 
On the TP and paper towel front. I ventured out today and hit 4 stores, all of which had toilet paper, paper towels, tissues, and disposable plates. Let’s hope the worst is behind us.

In just two weeks my household went from "Buy all the milk you can carry" to "Make sure you get only the grass fed organic milk... AGAIN only GRASS FED ORGANIC".

We had TP but that has not been an issue around here except for a few days (like 4).

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On the TP and paper towel front. I ventured out today and hit 4 stores, all of which had toilet paper, paper towels, tissues, and disposable plates. Let’s hope the worst is behind us.
Where are you at, and why in gods name would you visit 4 stores in a day? I went to a large store about a week ago, and certainly look at people differently now. Every single one of them looked like they not only carried Corona, but also Ebola, Hepatitis, and Tuberculosis. Grocery carts are pretty disgusting when you have your hands on them for 20 minutes and are touching products, and then off to the next person. All day. And a single conveyor mixes all germs as it pushes your food through the checkout and on to the bagging area. And you went to 4 of them? I've been hitting the small Halal shop down the street for 90% of the stuff, and the remaining 10% is Total Wine curb pickup.
 
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Where are you at, and why in gods name would you visit 4 stores in a day? I went to a large store about a week ago, and certainly look at people differently now. Every single one of them looked like they not only carried Corona, but also Ebola, Hepatitis, and Tuberculosis. Grocery carts are pretty disgusting when you have your hands on them for 20 minutes and are touching products, and then off to the next person. All day. And a single conveyor mixes all germs as it pushes your food through the checkout and on to the bagging area. And you went to 4 of them? I've been hitting the small Halal shop down the street for 90% of the stuff, and the remaining 10% is Total Wine curb pickup.
Almost all of the places around me spray down the carts with a disinfectant of some type before they bring them back into the store and they all have plastic covering the credit card reader as well as spray down the belts after each use.
 
On the TP and paper towel front. I ventured out today and hit 4 stores, all of which had toilet paper, paper towels, tissues, and disposable plates. Let’s hope the worst is behind us.
Went to Giant Eagle here in Columbus today the shelf wasn't completely full but there was a significant amount of TP on display. I cannot say the same for Meijer's they haven't had any for three weeks.
 
Almost all of the places around me spray down the carts with a disinfectant of some type before they bring them back into the store and they all have plastic covering the credit card reader as well as spray down the belts after each use.
And also on the conveyor and bagging area? They do a full wipe across the entire length of the belt as it makes a full revolution?

I'm mostly joking about the store, but I am doing most of my vegetable/fruit/meat shopping at the Halal store. Got to make what they have, and not have a planned menu for certain. No pork of course at the store, but did make a great Goat Curry last night. First time cooking goat (and I have goats at my ranch). I go in with my take home bags, put food in, go to front and pay and re-put in. Only common area is the 3x3 checkout table and the scale. Also, these guys certainly need more help than the big box store does at this time. Also, they have the best chicken around.
 
Went to Giant Eagle here in Columbus today the shelf wasn't completely full but there was a significant amount of TP on display. I cannot say the same for Meijer's they haven't had any for three weeks.
Brother shops at Giant in Coplay PA Saturday mornings. He used to go in at 6AM, but had to adjust to post 7:30 (I believe) as seniors are only allowed in before that. Last trip he said all was stocked except ice cream. Zero ice cream in the whole store.
 
Ordered a bundle of Charmin and Bounty from BJ's last Thursday for delivery and got it Wednesday. Only problem is they delivered Charmin Essentials and not the Ultra Soft I ordered. The price difference is $13. Called the delivery service Instacart and they aren't even taking phone calls.
 
The hoarders are finished hoarding so the shelves are returning to normal. On the bright side, they won’t need to buy toilet paper for the next two years.
 
And also on the conveyor and bagging area? They do a full wipe across the entire length of the belt as it makes a full revolution?

I'm mostly joking about the store, but I am doing most of my vegetable/fruit/meat shopping at the Halal store. Got to make what they have, and not have a planned menu for certain. No pork of course at the store, but did make a great Goat Curry last night. First time cooking goat (and I have goats at my ranch). I go in with my take home bags, put food in, go to front and pay and re-put in. Only common area is the 3x3 checkout table and the scale. Also, these guys certainly need more help than the big box store does at this time. Also, they have the best chicken around.

Some stores not allowing take home bags because of the potential virus they can introduce.
 
Some stores not allowing take home bags because of the potential virus they can introduce.
That logic doesn't make much sense, as they allow the people that hold/touch/own the bag to come in, and handle all the food and use a common checkout? Someone mentioned they wipe down the carts, but do they wipe all the wires on the carts which actually touches all of the handled food? What about the hand baskets? There are so many cracks and crevasses on those. Unless they disinfect it like they do my growler at the beer joint, it doesn't seem fool proof. And not just Covid, but I see chicken juice in carts, baskets, and on the conveyor all prior to this breakout. I come home from shopping and my cloth bags go into the wash machine
 
Last trip he said all was stocked except ice cream. Zero ice cream in the whole store.

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Our Acme checkers will not bag for you if you bring your own reusable bags with you, which is OK by me, I pack ours all the time anyway, because the supervisors don't care to train their kids to not place cans on top of fruit and produce.

As soon as we're home, the bags are in the washing machine. Mrs delcoLion also insists on washing our shirts and pants as soon as we're back and unpacked.

Man, can't wait until this is over.
 
Our Acme checkers will not bag for you if you bring your own reusable bags with you, which is OK by me, I pack ours all the time anyway, because the supervisors don't care to train their kids to not place cans on top of fruit and produce.

As soon as we're home, the bags are in the washing machine. Mrs delcoLion also insists on washing our shirts and pants as soon as we're back and unpacked.

Man, can't wait until this is over.
Jane did exactly that this morning. Yeah, can't wait.
 
Our Acme checkers will not bag for you if you bring your own reusable bags with you, which is OK by me, I pack ours all the time anyway, because the supervisors don't care to train their kids to not place cans on top of fruit and produce.

As soon as we're home, the bags are in the washing machine. Mrs delcoLion also insists on washing our shirts and pants as soon as we're back and unpacked.

Man, can't wait until this is over.
Pfft. I haven’t changed my shirt and pants in three days. And i have been prepping for the NYC marathon.
 
That logic doesn't make much sense, as they allow the people that hold/touch/own the bag to come in, and handle all the food and use a common checkout? Someone mentioned they wipe down the carts, but do they wipe all the wires on the carts which actually touches all of the handled food? What about the hand baskets? There are so many cracks and crevasses on those. Unless they disinfect it like they do my growler at the beer joint, it doesn't seem fool proof. And not just Covid, but I see chicken juice in carts, baskets, and on the conveyor all prior to this breakout. I come home from shopping and my cloth bags go into the wash machine

You understand that none of these things are 100% ironclad ways of eliminating the virus? The policies are put in place to eliminate as many variables as possible. A store can only control what they can control. They must have customers in the store (not allowed to close). They can control cleaning what they have in possession in their store. They cannot control that ll customers bringing their own bags are washing them like you do. And what % of those bags are coming from a house with a positive coronavirus person, especially in the hard hit areas? Do you think the bags in the store have a higher chance of containing virus or bags brought in from lots of people's houses?
 
My local store has been out of all paper products, except tissues, for three weeks now. Dairy case also really empty except milk and eggs. But the meat case has been in good shape, along with produce.
 
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Have been able to get most things save any disinfectant wipes/sprays. That said, our most recent grocery order was missing a ham for Easter. So, I bucked up, put on my mask and gloves, and went to the store. I had a few other things to pick up too. Found the shelves stocked with ham - so, no biggie. Had everything else too. But, while in the snack aisle this guy in a West Point hat (he had no mask, no gloves) looked at me a bit sideways. Then, I ran into him again in another aisle. He said - ‘this is the second aisle where you’re going the wrong way - there are big signs at the end of each aisle indicating ONE WAY.’ I was like, ‘are there?’ - genuinely asking. He rolled his eyes and kept moving. When I got to the end of the aisle, I looked for the sign. I didn’t see it until I looked on the ground, where there was a small red sign saying one way and to keep a two cart distance. So, when I run into this guy again later on, I tell him I found the sign but don’t typically look on the ground when I’m shopping. He tells me someone scolded him for it earlier and that he’s already had the virus. Nice fella.
 
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Lol. I kind of doubt that people during WWII were as concerned about toilet paper as we are now.

I understand that toilet paper didn't become popular until the 1940s. Before that people used newspapers, catalogues, and corn cobs.
 
Was at the grocery this AM. Everything was plentiful including wipes sanitizers (2 item limit) toilet paper etc. Ground beef was about 50%. Everyone in masks (required) and most had gloves.
 
Was at the grocery this AM. Everything was plentiful including wipes sanitizers (2 item limit) toilet paper etc. Ground beef was about 50%. Everyone in masks (required) and most had gloves.
Where’s everyone getting masks? Can’t find any where I’m at.
 
Where’s everyone getting masks? Can’t find any where I’m at.
My company got ya all a couple each. No idea where they got them. We are an engineering company and not in the medical field.

I should qualify my post - some people were wearing kerchiefs or other face covering. One older person (75+) was wearing an N95 mask.
 
We have not been able to find bread flour and yeast. For the last month, no bread flour.

yeah, that's also been a surprise to me. A couple of weeks ago, my wife started making bread and realized she didn't have enough flour. I went out to get some, and found none and 2 stores, and only a couple of small bags of organic flour at a 3rd store.

A lot of stores have reduced the area they devote to baking products, but I still was stunned that all the flour was out. FWIW, the situation has not improved since that time at any of the aforementioned stores in my area.
 
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And also on the conveyor and bagging area? They do a full wipe across the entire length of the belt as it makes a full revolution?

I'm mostly joking about the store, but I am doing most of my vegetable/fruit/meat shopping at the Halal store. Got to make what they have, and not have a planned menu for certain. No pork of course at the store, but did make a great Goat Curry last night. First time cooking goat (and I have goats at my ranch). I go in with my take home bags, put food in, go to front and pay and re-put in. Only common area is the 3x3 checkout table and the scale. Also, these guys certainly need more help than the big box store does at this time. Also, they have the best chicken around.
Goat is yumm, had it in Haiti.
 
yeah, that's also been a surprise to me. A couple of weeks ago, my wife started making bread and realized she didn't have enough flour. I went out to get some, and found none and 2 stores, and only a couple of small bags of organic flour at a 3rd store.

A lot of stores have reduced the area they devote to baking products, but I still was stunned that all the flour was out. FWIW, the situation has not improved since that time at any of the aforementioned stores in my area.


I can't find yeast anywhere it's frustrating.
 
We have not been able to find bread flour and yeast. For the last month, no bread flour.

Strange. Since when did everybody become a baker?

My son-in-law who bakes like me recently bought a 40 pound bag of bread flour. Should last him for a while.
 
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Strange. Since when did everybody become a baker?

My son-in-law who bakes like me recently bought a 40 pound bag of bread flour. Should last him for a while.
Most people aren't bakers. I'm guessing that the people buying it will end up throwing it away because they've never baked a loaf of bread in their lives.
 
On the TP and paper towel front. I ventured out today and hit 4 stores, all of which had toilet paper, paper towels, tissues, and disposable plates. Let’s hope the worst is behind us.
I was able to 1 pack yesterday at the Weis in Bellefonte, but not much on the shelves.
 
I hope your joking.

Yeast is everywhere. It’s in the air. Starter is so easy to make.

We just want to make one loaf of “pot bread” a week. It’s easy no needing and it’s crusty. Homemade bread is time consuming. Now that everyone has extra time, it’s a pleasant distraction.
Well....

Sure, yeast is everywhere. But in the average home kitchen of someone who doesn't do much baking, the amount of yeast just "hanging around" isn't really enough to get bread to rise. If you bake a lot, then sure there is natural yeast in the air and on the countertops. At King Arthur Flour's test kitchen, they actually have to reduce the amount of yeast they use because there is so much naturally occurring yeast. If you bake a couple times a year, you're not going to have much natural yeast floating around.

You can make your own starter. However, it is a 5-7 day affair, and I personally wouldn't use the word "easy". My two attempts at creating my own starter were mediocre at best. A true sourdough "starter" has specific lactobacilli in addition to natural yeasts. It's nearly impossible to replicate it in your own kitchen. Its much easier to order an established starter from King Arthur Flour or sourdo.com, or better yet, get some from a friend or neighbor.

I got some starter from sourdo.com, (from a 150 year old Paris bakery) and it is an order of magnitude better than anything I ever created from scratch. Plus, for a novice who doesn't know what a starter should look and smell like, it's really hard to know when you have it right. While you might not kill yourself or your family, the line between a "sour" starter and a rancid one can be difficult for the newbie to detect.

YMMV......
 
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