Ukraines Epic Fail At Manufacturing A False Flag

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This has been a rough past few days for zelensky. First the FTX laundering scam is exposed now this utter failure.

Cocaine abuse is a terrible thing. People who are cognitively impaired lack the ability to perceive how transparent their lies are to unimpaired people. Clueless people with diminished capacity due to drug abuse is just a variant of the Dunning–Kruger effect regarding ordinary stupidity. Intelligent and courageous subordinates could have prevented this, but I don’t believe that ‘elensky has any of those at this point, just yes men.



I believe the evidence is overwhelming that Ukraine tried and failed to manufacture a “Russian” attack on Poland that would have justified NATO coming to Poland’s defense under Article 5 of the NATO Treaty and solved Kiev’s dilemma over how to replace the massive number of Ukrainian soldiers that were killed or wounded in combat during the past two months. It is a whopper of a number. And Ukraine is in desperate need of reinforcements that are not available if they rely on only drafting Ukrainians.

Here is the evidence that the S-300 missile that landed in Poland was a false flag.

  • The missile was a S-300. Originally manufactured in the Soviet Union in the late 1970s.
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  • The closest Russian ground forces, who in theory could have launched this missile, are located east of Kherson. The distance from Przewodow to Kherson is 613 miles. That distance exceeds the capability of the S-300 by a factor of 3.5.
The S-300 was fired by Ukrainian forces located somewhere to the west of Kiev. It is highly likely that U.S. and Russian satellites recorded this launch. In other words, both sides know where the S-300 originated.

It is highly unlikely — hell, impossible — that this was an “errant” missile that Ukraine fired in a moment of desperation trying to take down an in bound Russian missile. Why? The Russian missiles are flying from the south to the north or from the east to the west. That means if Ukraine is firing an anti-missile defense system at those inbound missiles the Ukrainian missile would travel from west to east.

But that is not what happened here. The S-300 traveled east to west. Unless the Ukrainian operator who launched the S-300 was drunk on his ass, it is impossible to “accidentally” fire this air defense missile in the wrong direction.

Then you have Zelensky’s adamant refusal to accept the evidence.


But repeating a lie does not make it true. You may insist that the Sun rises in the West, but no matter how loud you shout or how many times you repeat that nonsense, it is not true. Same principle applies here. An anti-air defense missile fired at missiles coming from the east and the south does not magically travel in the opposite direction.

I believe this is another indicator of Zelensky’s growing desperation. Think about it for a moment. If Ukraine really had Russia on its heels, why fabricate an easily disproved claim that Russia attacked Poland with a missile? This was sloppy trade-craft. If Ukraine had used another Russian missile capable of flying the distance from current Russian lines to that farm in Poland, then the circumstantial evidence might have ignited the desired fire among the NATO members.

I think one of the reasons the US Department of Defense was so quick to agree with the Russians about the origin of the missile is that the technical data from the National Reconnaissance Office pin pointed the launch location. It the NRO knows then the Russians, who have similar capabilities, would know.

I also think that Ukraine and Poland cooked up this plan without telling Demented Joey Biden. The incident was timed to coincide with the G-20 meeting in Bali. Hence, my title — Epic Fail….”
 

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This has been a rough past few days for zelensky. First the FTX laundering scam is exposed now this utter failure.

Cocaine abuse is a terrible thing. People who are cognitively impaired lack the ability to perceive how transparent their lies are to unimpaired people. Clueless people with diminished capacity due to drug abuse is just a variant of the Dunning–Kruger effect regarding ordinary stupidity. Intelligent and courageous subordinates could have prevented this, but I don’t believe that ‘elensky has any of those at this point, just yes men.



I believe the evidence is overwhelming that Ukraine tried and failed to manufacture a “Russian” attack on Poland that would have justified NATO coming to Poland’s defense under Article 5 of the NATO Treaty and solved Kiev’s dilemma over how to replace the massive number of Ukrainian soldiers that were killed or wounded in combat during the past two months. It is a whopper of a number. And Ukraine is in desperate need of reinforcements that are not available if they rely on only drafting Ukrainians.

Here is the evidence that the S-300 missile that landed in Poland was a false flag.

  • The missile was a S-300. Originally manufactured in the Soviet Union in the late 1970s.
image-17.png

image-18-1024x768.png

  • The closest Russian ground forces, who in theory could have launched this missile, are located east of Kherson. The distance from Przewodow to Kherson is 613 miles. That distance exceeds the capability of the S-300 by a factor of 3.5.
The S-300 was fired by Ukrainian forces located somewhere to the west of Kiev. It is highly likely that U.S. and Russian satellites recorded this launch. In other words, both sides know where the S-300 originated.

It is highly unlikely — hell, impossible — that this was an “errant” missile that Ukraine fired in a moment of desperation trying to take down an in bound Russian missile. Why? The Russian missiles are flying from the south to the north or from the east to the west. That means if Ukraine is firing an anti-missile defense system at those inbound missiles the Ukrainian missile would travel from west to east.

But that is not what happened here. The S-300 traveled east to west. Unless the Ukrainian operator who launched the S-300 was drunk on his ass, it is impossible to “accidentally” fire this air defense missile in the wrong direction.

Then you have Zelensky’s adamant refusal to accept the evidence.


But repeating a lie does not make it true. You may insist that the Sun rises in the West, but no matter how loud you shout or how many times you repeat that nonsense, it is not true. Same principle applies here. An anti-air defense missile fired at missiles coming from the east and the south does not magically travel in the opposite direction.

I believe this is another indicator of Zelensky’s growing desperation. Think about it for a moment. If Ukraine really had Russia on its heels, why fabricate an easily disproved claim that Russia attacked Poland with a missile? This was sloppy trade-craft. If Ukraine had used another Russian missile capable of flying the distance from current Russian lines to that farm in Poland, then the circumstantial evidence might have ignited the desired fire among the NATO members.

I think one of the reasons the US Department of Defense was so quick to agree with the Russians about the origin of the missile is that the technical data from the National Reconnaissance Office pin pointed the launch location. It the NRO knows then the Russians, who have similar capabilities, would know.

I also think that Ukraine and Poland cooked up this plan without telling Demented Joey Biden. The incident was timed to coincide with the G-20 meeting in Bali. Hence, my title — Epic Fail….”

How's that Russian mop up operation going?
 

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I'd say it's going pretty well considering Ukraine is so desperate for help they staged a pathetic false flag attack on one of their allies.

Don't worry, just send them a few more billion, they won't grift off of it and launder back to corrupt western politicians this time, they promise!

I'd say it's going pretty well

You think Putin is doing well in Ukraine?
 

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I'd say it's going pretty well

You think Putin is doing well in Ukraine?
Considering the massive loss of life no one in Ukraine is really doing well. That being said Putin has already accomplished most of his stated goals (securing southern and eastern oblasts etc.). What remains is the denazification and demilitarization which is kinda hard since, you know, we keep pumping BILLIONS in weapons and money into Ukraine.

I wonder if there are any more shady biolabs linked to corrupt western political families left to discover (see Metabiota)? What a brilliant idea those were...no way Russia could view those as a threat huh?

When this is all said and done if anything is left of Ukraine it will be a rump state. Tragic but true.
 
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Considering the massive loss of life no one in Ukraine is really doing well. That being said Putin has already accomplished most of his stated goals (securing southern and eastern oblasts etc.). What remains is the denazification and demilitarization which is kinda hard since, you know, we keep pumping BILLIONS in weapons and money into Ukraine.

I wonder if there are any more shady biolabs linked to corrupt western political families left to discover (see Metabiota)? What a brilliant idea those were...no way Russia could view those as a threat huh?

When this is all said and done if anything is left of Ukraine it will be a rump state. Tragic but true.
It's OK for you to admit that you were wrong about the mopup.
 

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It's OK for you to admit that you were wrong about the mopup.
I don’t recall giving a time frame for it. What was said was Ukraine is finished and it’s only a matter of time before Russia is done grinding through. That’s exactly what we’re seeing. Ukraine has no air presence and their troop level is extremely low.
 
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This has been a rough past few days for zelensky. First the FTX laundering scam is exposed now this utter failure.

Cocaine abuse is a terrible thing. People who are cognitively impaired lack the ability to perceive how transparent their lies are to unimpaired people. Clueless people with diminished capacity due to drug abuse is just a variant of the Dunning–Kruger effect regarding ordinary stupidity. Intelligent and courageous subordinates could have prevented this, but I don’t believe that ‘elensky has any of those at this point, just yes men.



I believe the evidence is overwhelming that Ukraine tried and failed to manufacture a “Russian” attack on Poland that would have justified NATO coming to Poland’s defense under Article 5 of the NATO Treaty and solved Kiev’s dilemma over how to replace the massive number of Ukrainian soldiers that were killed or wounded in combat during the past two months. It is a whopper of a number. And Ukraine is in desperate need of reinforcements that are not available if they rely on only drafting Ukrainians.

Here is the evidence that the S-300 missile that landed in Poland was a false flag.

  • The missile was a S-300. Originally manufactured in the Soviet Union in the late 1970s.
image-17.png

image-18-1024x768.png

  • The closest Russian ground forces, who in theory could have launched this missile, are located east of Kherson. The distance from Przewodow to Kherson is 613 miles. That distance exceeds the capability of the S-300 by a factor of 3.5.
The S-300 was fired by Ukrainian forces located somewhere to the west of Kiev. It is highly likely that U.S. and Russian satellites recorded this launch. In other words, both sides know where the S-300 originated.

It is highly unlikely — hell, impossible — that this was an “errant” missile that Ukraine fired in a moment of desperation trying to take down an in bound Russian missile. Why? The Russian missiles are flying from the south to the north or from the east to the west. That means if Ukraine is firing an anti-missile defense system at those inbound missiles the Ukrainian missile would travel from west to east.

But that is not what happened here. The S-300 traveled east to west. Unless the Ukrainian operator who launched the S-300 was drunk on his ass, it is impossible to “accidentally” fire this air defense missile in the wrong direction.

Then you have Zelensky’s adamant refusal to accept the evidence.


But repeating a lie does not make it true. You may insist that the Sun rises in the West, but no matter how loud you shout or how many times you repeat that nonsense, it is not true. Same principle applies here. An anti-air defense missile fired at missiles coming from the east and the south does not magically travel in the opposite direction.

I believe this is another indicator of Zelensky’s growing desperation. Think about it for a moment. If Ukraine really had Russia on its heels, why fabricate an easily disproved claim that Russia attacked Poland with a missile? This was sloppy trade-craft. If Ukraine had used another Russian missile capable of flying the distance from current Russian lines to that farm in Poland, then the circumstantial evidence might have ignited the desired fire among the NATO members.

I think one of the reasons the US Department of Defense was so quick to agree with the Russians about the origin of the missile is that the technical data from the National Reconnaissance Office pin pointed the launch location. It the NRO knows then the Russians, who have similar capabilities, would know.

I also think that Ukraine and Poland cooked up this plan without telling Demented Joey Biden. The incident was timed to coincide with the G-20 meeting in Bali. Hence, my title — Epic Fail….”
I am not a weapons expert but I question the logic here. The anti air missile may have been shot in any direction. Ukraine has a poor system that doesn’t cover 100% of its territory, including its radar. The incoming enemy missile may have come in through a dead zone and was past the launch site before it was detected and/or the targeting system Is activated, locked on, the missile fired and the missile began tracking its target.

And the S300 may have been fired eastward but changed course to track the target missile. Or it may have simply malfunction siñce it was fifty years old and likely not well maintained.
 

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I am not a weapons expert but I question the logic here. The anti air missile may have been shot in any direction. Ukraine has a poor system that doesn’t cover 100% of its territory, including its radar. The incoming enemy missile may have come in through a dead zone and was past the launch site before it was detected and/or the targeting system Is activated, locked on, the missile fired and the missile began tracking its target.

And the S300 may have been fired eastward but changed course to track the target missile. Or it may have simply malfunction siñce it was fifty years old and likely not well maintained.
Of course there are edge cases where that could happen but it's VERY likely it was initially aimed west. They don't have a long enough range to be aimed east fly around for a while then go the opposite direction back past the launch area and into a different country.

Even if what you said happened happened Zelensky would damn well know it was one of their missiles, the fact that it was an S-300 is all he'd need to know re: preliminary investigation but nope...he kept pushing the false narrative anyway...b/c he's a cokehead psycho dictator.

Satellite footage would end all debate re: where it was initially aimed. If none is put forward by the west then we know it was initially and intentionally aimed west. I'm not holding my breath on that being released.
 

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Of course there are edge cases where that could happen but it's VERY likely it was initially aimed west. They don't have a long enough range to be aimed east fly around for a while then go the opposite direction back past the launch area and into a different country.

Even if what you said happened happened Zelensky would damn well know it was one of their missiles, the fact that it was an S-300 is all he'd need to know re: preliminary investigation but nope...he kept pushing the false narrative anyway...b/c he's a cokehead psycho dictator.

Satellite footage would end all debate re: where it was initially aimed. If none is put forward by the west then we know it was initially and intentionally aimed west. I'm not holding my breath on that being released.
Never said it was flying around for a while. Coulda been launched north....or south.....and quickly changed course as soon as it was launched.

And doubt if we ever see any sat photos. Have they ever released sat photos of a missile in flight, other than our own? The shoot down of the airliner by Russians in 2014? Or the shoot down by Iran? Or our shoot down on an airliner off the coast oof Iran?
 
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Not e said it was flying around for a while. Coulda been launched north....or south.....and quickly changed course as soon as it was launched.

And doubt if we ever see any sat photos. Have they ever released sat photos of a missile in flight, other than our own? The shoot down of the airliner by Russians in 2014? Or the shoot down by Iran? Or our shoot down on an airliner off the coast oof Iran?
I agree with you on that, we def won't be seeing any sat photos.