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Unrealistic question, but; could Hack beat out all 3 OSU QB;s if he was on that team?

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OK, look, I know I will be ridiculed for even asking this question, as Hack is our QB, not OSU's. I am just curious how he you think he would do with an OL that protects QB's so well and opens up huge holes for RB's. Do you think Hack would be able to beat out the other 3 OSU QB's with his talent?
 
OK, look, I know I will be ridiculed for even asking this question, as Hack is our QB, not OSU's. I am just curious how he you think he would do with an OL that protects QB's so well and opens up huge holes for RB's. Do you think Hack would be able to beat out the other 3 OSU QB's with his talent?
Hack has way more talent QB wise than any of those guys. IMO. OSU system wouldn't fit him if he was there tho. Having said that Hack will have ten times the pro career than any of them. Kid is way legit.
 
OK, look, I know I will be ridiculed for even asking this question, as Hack is our QB, not OSU's. I am just curious how he you think he would do with an OL that protects QB's so well and opens up huge holes for RB's. Do you think Hack would be able to beat out the other 3 OSU QB's with his talent?

Simple answer is no as he can't move like them and Meyer runs his QB's. That doesn't make them better as none would start over Hack at PSU and this offense.
 
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Hack is the best pro prospect out of that group of 4 talented athletes, but, no, I doubt he would start ahead of them at tOSU or in a similar scheme. Too much emphasis on QB runs.
 
Until he proves otherwise, all 3 of those OSU QB's are better players than Hack. He may have more "natural" talent, but as of right now he has not shown the mental proficiency or the coolness under fire. As well, he does not yet make the players around him better.

If any of those players were here, they'd start over Hack. The only one that could even be quibbled about is the guy who just won the MNC.

Remember, this is the guy that half the board wanted to transfer out until the bowl game.
 
OK, look, I know I will be ridiculed for even asking this question, as Hack is our QB, not OSU's. I am just curious how he you think he would do with an OL that protects QB's so well and opens up huge holes for RB's. Do you think Hack would be able to beat out the other 3 OSU QB's with his talent?

CH is a hell of a QB - maybe the best in all of CFB. He'll be racking in the $$$ at the next level. The 0$u guys won't. That is the main difference.
 
I love Hack...always been a fan. But every osu QB is a better college QB given their ability to move/scramble and their roster. CH will be a better pro player IMO
 
This post probably won't be well received on this Board but, even though I am a big PSU fan (behind only my alma mater, Cal), I think all three of the OSU QB's are, at this point, considerably better than Hack. Hack has a gun for an arm, but his decision making needs a whole lot of work, and he is pretty darn slow. Tom Brady is no speedster, so lack of foot speed is not an absolute must, but Hack has to get better (and faster) at going through his progressions, not making poor throws, and deciding more quickly to tuck it and run when running is necessary.
 
Different systems. How many times would OSU QBs run those sweep behind the lines? Hackenberg would win there too but the system would be tailored for his arm.
 
This post probably won't be well received on this Board but, even though I am a big PSU fan (behind only my alma mater, Cal), I think all three of the OSU QB's are, at this point, considerably better than Hack. Hack has a gun for an arm, but his decision making needs a whole lot of work, and he is pretty darn slow. Tom Brady is no speedster, so lack of foot speed is not an absolute must, but Hack has to get better (and faster) at going through his progressions, not making poor throws, and deciding more quickly to tuck it and run when running is necessary.
In a pro style system, Hack is much more suited. The three OSU qb's will do nothing at the next level. History proves that is true. Look at Tebow. Look at Vince Young or Eric Crouch. The running qb's don't work in the nfl.
People are judging cardale jones on 3 games....3 freakin' games. He was great...but honestly most of his plays were just draws up the middle. He won't be able to run over people at the next level. There was a reason he was third string. Ohio state won the title based on their running game with Ezekiel Elliott and a stout defense led by Joey Bosa.....not because of Jones.
 
The running qb's don't work in the nfl.

You mean like Randall Cunningham or Donovan McNab??

Depends on the system. But I understand your point. NFL coaches are reluctant to go with a running QB as the roster sizes are small compared with college and they don't have "next man up" like college programs can.

Supposedly, however, Jones has the best arm of the three and is the guy folks in Columbus think has the best chance at the next level. If Miller makes it, it won't be as a QB (see Robinson, Michael).
 
Well, I'm judging Hack on two full seasons, plus a crappy spring game. We're talking college here, not pro, and we'd be a much better team with Miller or Barrett, decisively, and maybe even Jones.
 
In a pro style system, Hack is much more suited. The three OSU qb's will do nothing at the next level. History proves that is true. Look at Tebow. Look at Vince Young or Eric Crouch. The running qb's don't work in the nfl.
People are judging cardale jones on 3 games....3 freakin' games. He was great...but honestly most of his plays were just draws up the middle. He won't be able to run over people at the next level. There was a reason he was third string. Ohio state won the title based on their running game with Ezekiel Elliott and a stout defense led by Joey Bosa.....not because of Jones.

Urban Meyer's QBs can play in the NFL if they have the talent. See Alex Smith.

None of the QBs that Meyer coached had the arm talent and mental acuity as Smith.
 
OK, look, I know I will be ridiculed for even asking this question, as Hack is our QB, not OSU's. I am just curious how he you think he would do with an OL that protects QB's so well and opens up huge holes for RB's. Do you think Hack would be able to beat out the other 3 OSU QB's with his talent?
No. Simply because he does not fit the type of offense that Myer wants to run.
 
This post probably won't be well received on this Board but, even though I am a big PSU fan (behind only my alma mater, Cal), I think all three of the OSU QB's are, at this point, considerably better than Hack. Hack has a gun for an arm, but his decision making needs a whole lot of work, and he is pretty darn slow. Tom Brady is no speedster, so lack of foot speed is not an absolute must, but Hack has to get better (and faster) at going through his progressions, not making poor throws, and deciding more quickly to tuck it and run when running is necessary.
May not be well received, but correct.
 
OK, look, I know I will be ridiculed for even asking this question, as Hack is our QB, not OSU's. I am just curious how he you think he would do with an OL that protects QB's so well and opens up huge holes for RB's. Do you think Hack would be able to beat out the other 3 OSU QB's with his talent?
Hack would obviously improve upon his own production if he had more protection, a dominant running game and a spread formation with multiple explosive wrs instead of a gaggle of TEs.

Would he beat out the osu qbs? No. It would be Brantley all over again, with more or less success depending on your viewpoint of Hack.

He can't run at all and that instantly adds an extra defender to every play with no qb to constrain the defense (including on read option play action where the DE stays home briefly shifting the numbers )

Hack struggles a lot under duress and despite the superior OL protection, the offense puts the qb in harms way by design. By contrast, Cardale stood tall in the pocket with a blitz coming in at high speed. He had a handful of big time throws in the post season with a blitzer coming untouched or reaching out to Yank
his facemask backwards)

Cardale already presents the pass first type of qb. He has an elite NFL arm with an added bonus of good scrambling ability and punishing inside running. He is not good at all at operating the outside constraint to the inside zone style of the read option. They tried it multiple times before abandoning it. He lacks the quickness and decisiveness to produce like JT or Braxton.
 
Hack is a PRO (real potential) QB. The three OSU guys are more like OSUs previous QBs Smith and Pryor (NOT NFL QBs). ALL will be reaches for the Pros !!!
That being said, I'm a bigger fan of "running college QBs". The best teams we have had in recent memory were under Robinson and Clark (both truly run capable QBs). So would Hack beat them out? NOT at OSU but at the PRO level, I say YES, not even close.
 
Interesting question. I doubt any OSU fans are secretly pining for Hack at QB this year.​
 
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