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Upset Alert

IMHO, the only way PSU loses this game is if they choke. While Minny has a fairly talented, disciplined and physical team there are not as talented as PSU up and down the line. We've been good at taking care of the ball and that needs to continue. Weather should be close to 40 degrees with a mild wind.

It is possible that PSU feels the pressure and doesn't perform well. Team leadership needs to lead. Allar, Warren, Singleton and Allen on offense. Carter, The Dentist, Reed, and Wheatly on D.
 
IMHO, the only way PSU loses this game is if they choke. While Minny has a fairly talented, disciplined and physical team there are not as talented as PSU up and down the line. We've been good at taking care of the ball and that needs to continue. Weather should be close to 40 degrees with a mild wind.

It is possible that PSU feels the pressure and doesn't perform well. Team leadership needs to lead. Allar, Warren, Singleton and Allen on offense. Carter, The Dentist, Reed, and Wheatly on D.
Hard to imagine that they would take Minnesota away for granted but anything can happen in college football.
 
I know he has to talk about something but he's not making sense. Says Penn State is on upset alert and then says our two options are 1) play messy and win a close one or 2) Get out to a fast start and dominate. Thanks, Josh. I was hoping to hear some reasons why we might lose. Either one of those options works for me.
 
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I get why national media is talking about an upset because Franklin has quite a history of losing games like this one.

But this is a more fundamentally sound PSU team than in the past. It's tough and deep at the line of scrimmage and smart in the offensive and defensive backfield. This team can win an ugly, physical field position game if it has to. Leadership is good. If things go wrong early, nobody panics. And lately the team has been playing better in the 1st half so hopefully they won't dig themselves a hole.

Also, this Minnesota team is good, maybe top 25 caliber, but they're nothing like the 2019 Minnesota team which went 11-2 and finished ranked 10th. Similar type of team to Wisconsin this year -- good secondary, dink and dunk passing game. Big O-line, if they can run between the tackles they could be tough but if have to try to get outside it's going to be tough with PSU's speed.
 
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Hard to imagine that they would take Minnesota away for granted but anything can happen in college football.
I am more concerned with them playing too tight. Minny has nothing to lose and it is senior night. They can take all the chances and if they lose by 40, who cares?

If Minny plays their A game, all PSU has to do is play their B game. But if PSU turns the ball over, has 50+ yards in penalties along with a couple of drops by the WRs anything can happen. It is important to stabilize early and nullify the senior night energy.
 
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I get why national media is talking about an upset because Franklin has quite a history of losing games like this one.

But this is a more fundamentally sound PSU team than in the past. It's tough and deep at the line of scrimmage and smart in the offensive and defensive backfield. This team can win an ugly, physical field position game if it has to. Leadership is good. If things go wrong early, nobody panics. And lately the team has been playing better in the 1st half so hopefully they won't dig themselves a hole.

Also, this Minnesota team is good, maybe top 25 caliber, but they're nothing like the 2019 Minnesota team which went 11-2 and finished ranked 10th. Similar type of team to Wisconsin this year -- good secondary, dink and dunk passing game.
What does this tells us about our $9 million a year coach that many so called experts think we could lose? It means they don't think he is a good coach when it is crunch time. Pretty pathetic when you think about it. Big game James better not prove these guys right.
 
I know he has to talk about something but he's not making sense. Says Penn State is on upset alert and then says our two options are 1) play messy and win a close one or 2) Get out to a fast start and dominate. Thanks, Josh. I was hoping to hear some reasons why we might lose. Either one of those options works for me.
This is about the seventh game this season that PSU is on upset alert. It's almost become a parody of itself.
 
What does this tells us about our $9 million a year coach that many so called experts think we could lose? It means they don't think he is a good coach when it is crunch time. Pretty pathetic when you think about it. Big game James better not prove these guys right.
well, recently, and I mean the last two or three years, PSU has done great as the favorite against an unranked team.
 
I am more concerned with them playing too tight. Minny has nothing to lose and it is senior night. They can take all the chances and if they lose by 40, who cares?

If Minny plays their A game, all PSU has to do is play their B game. But if PSU turns the ball over, has 50+ yards in penalties along with a couple of drops by the WRs anything can happen. It is important to stabilize early and nullify the senior night energy.
If we either win or tie and turnover margin and don't give up a defensive td, I believe that we'll be okay.

Also, I hope that the staff is prepared for a trick play on special teams like a fake punt and an offense like a halfback pass. It's almost a certainty that Minny will try something like this.
 
I get why national media is talking about an upset because Franklin has quite a history of losing games like this one.

But this is a more fundamentally sound PSU team than in the past. It's tough and deep at the line of scrimmage and smart in the offensive and defensive backfield. This team can win an ugly, physical field position game if it has to. Leadership is good. If things go wrong early, nobody panics. And lately the team has been playing better in the 1st half so hopefully they won't dig themselves a hole.

Also, this Minnesota team is good, maybe top 25 caliber, but they're nothing like the 2019 Minnesota team which went 11-2 and finished ranked 10th. Similar type of team to Wisconsin this year -- good secondary, dink and dunk passing game.


Who coached all the bad losses from 95-2011?
 
Who coached all the bad losses from 95-2011?

An old man who could find nothing to do in retirement. He would have coached for free. Absolutely no comparison with today's crazy contracts.

The cost/benefit is ridiculous. We are not the only school. This sort of nonsense is like a pandemic. Hopefully things change over the next few years and we no longer tolerate a culture of waste.
 
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An old man who could find nothing to do in retirement. He would have coached for free. Absolutely no comparison with today's crazy contracts.

The cost/benefit is ridiculous. We are not the only school. This sort of nonsense is like a pandemic. Hopefully things change over the next few years and we no longer tolerate a culture of waste.


Free does not impress anyone when they had losing records vs Michigan, OSU and dont forget the annual Iowa loss. When PSU was trailing Toledo 24-0 did anyone care how much the coach was making?

Do you want to do a cost benefit analysis? The team is making MUCH more today.

PS. He didnt work for free.
 
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Free does not impress anyone when they had losing records vs Michigan, OSU and dont forget the annual Iowa loss. When PSU was trailing Toledo 24-0 did anyone care how much the coach was making?

Do you want to do a cost benefit analysis? The team is making MUCH more today.

PS. He didnt work for free.
I must be missing something. This program under its current head coach is as strong in almost every aspect since the early to mid 90s.
 
What does this tells us about our $9 million a year coach that many so called experts think we could lose? It means they don't think he is a good coach when it is crunch time. Pretty pathetic when you think about it. Big game James better not prove these guys right.
Who you know what in your Wheaties this morning?
 
What does this tells us about our $9 million a year coach that many so called experts think we could lose? It means they don't think he is a good coach when it is crunch time. Pretty pathetic when you think about it. Big game James better not prove these guys right.


Not much. Same experts had PSU on at least 5 upset alerts this season. WVU, USC, Wisconsin, Washington and Illinois. What did it tell you after they were wrong?

What does that say about you?
 
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I must be missing something. This program under its current head coach is as strong in almost every aspect since the early to mid 90s.


Joebots dont really care about winning. They were happy losing to Toledo in 2000. They even made up a slogan, "Success with Honor" to cover up for the lack of success in those years.

Now they dont even care about the honor BS and try to minimize the actual success.
 
This is no the first time he put us on upset alert. And he was wrong then. but it gives some a reason to bash our coach. Would love to know how many of these upset alerts actually resulted in an upset?
 
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There were even upset alerts for PSU vs OSU. That had that wrong too.
 
I am more concerned with them playing too tight. Minny has nothing to lose and it is senior night. They can take all the chances and if they lose by 40, who cares?

If Minny plays their A game, all PSU has to do is play their B game. But if PSU turns the ball over, has 50+ yards in penalties along with a couple of drops by the WRs anything can happen. It is important to stabilize early and nullify the senior night energy.
Unfortunately, PSU has had games where they have had 5 games of over 60 yds in penalties (and a few others over 40 yds) and we've seen some drops from WRs over the course of the season. The drops aren't as bad as seasons like 2003, 2004, 2023, etc but in terms of penalties, it feels like this has been the worst year in a very long time.
 
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This is no the first time he put us on upset alert. And he was wrong then. but it gives some a reason to bash our coach. Would love to know how many of these upset alerts actually resulted in an upset?
It's reminiscent of the old SNL skit by Chevy Chase when he did the news when he would say that Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
 
This is no the first time he put us on upset alert. And he was wrong then. but it gives some a reason to bash our coach. Would love to know how many of these upset alerts actually resulted in an upset?


So far this year NONE of them that involved PSU. At least 5 games PSU was on upset alert. Even the OSU game some of the experts had OSU on upset alert and they were wrong in that game too.
 
Unfortunately, PSU has had games where they have had 5 games of over 60 yds in penalties (and a few others over 40 yds) and we've seen some drops from WRs over the course of the season. The drops aren't as bad as seasons like 2003, 2004, 2023, etc but in terms of penalties, it feels like this has been the worst year in a very long time.
The number of penalties were really bad at the beginning of the season, but, without looking at the statistics, I believe that that has become less of an issue as the season has progressed.
 
Unfortunately, PSU has had games where they have had 5 games of over 60 yds in penalties (and a few others over 40 yds) and we've seen some drops from WRs over the course of the season. The drops aren't as bad as seasons like 2003, 2004, 2023, etc but in terms of penalties, it feels like this has been the worst year in a very long time.


Probably true but AK does some funky stuff on offense and it probably makes it tough to not have penalties.
 
Probably true but AK does some funky stuff on offense and it probably makes it tough to not have penalties.
remarkably, and probably a lot due to Allar's management, the pre-snap penalties we've had have been minimal (knocking on wood). We haven't suffered a lot of illegal motion or too/not enough people on the LOS. Most of our penalties have been unsportsmanlike on the defense or holding.
 
Penn State ain't losing to Minnesota, just like the Steelers were never going to lose to the Brow.......errrrrr 😣
 
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I am more concerned with them playing too tight. Minny has nothing to lose and it is senior night. They can take all the chances and if they lose by 40, who cares?

If Minny plays their A game, all PSU has to do is play their B game. But if PSU turns the ball over, has 50+ yards in penalties along with a couple of drops by the WRs anything can happen. It is important to stabilize early and nullify the senior night energy.

I see a fairly good chance that PSU brings their A game. There's been so much punditry about PSU being overrated and ripe for an upset, the team might come out kind of angry and eager to prove the doubters wrong.

The other part of the Franklin record, aside from the big upsets, is that sometimes they have come out and just spanked teams in situations like this where people were doubting them. Like how they took it to Iowa last year. Or some of the wins over pretty good Wisconsin teams. Granted they haven't really spanked a good team this year but I do think it's possible, they have improved on O and D and they're getting some people back healthy.
 
I know I'll probably get called crazy, but I have OSU on upset alert and most of that revolves around their depleted-injured OL which, many OSU people are super nervous about including my OSU grad son. He can't stand their OL coach - can't remember his name - and wants him gone after this year.

I know it's sounds crazy to say an OSU OL is the weak link of any OSU team, but I think it's been this way for a few years now and many OSU fans and followers are just totally POd. They don't seem to have the quality depth they've had for decades on their recent OLs. I think I'm going to concentrate on the Indy DL vs the OSU OL. If Indiana wins that matchup consistently, they have a shot at the upset. I'm actually thinking about taking Indiana and the points - just thinking about it right now
 
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The number of penalties were really bad at the beginning of the season, but, without looking at the statistics, I believe that that has become less of an issue as the season has progressed.
You are right. First 4 games were all above 60 yds in penalties.
 
I know he has to talk about something but he's not making sense. Says Penn State is on upset alert and then says our two options are 1) play messy and win a close one or 2) Get out to a fast start and dominate. Thanks, Josh. I was hoping to hear some reasons why we might lose. Either one of those options works for me.
He's a Homer and talks out of both sides of his mouth a lot but is usually secretly praying we lose any game we play. I pay zero attention to him. The only guy more-full of bullshit where PS is concerned is his Big Eared Blowhard buddy.
 
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I know I'll probably get called crazy, but I have OSU on upset alert and most of that revolves around their depleted-injured OL which, many OSU people are super nervous about including my OSU grad son. He can't stand their OL coach - can't remember his name - and wants him gone after this year.

I know it's sounds crazy to say an OSU OL is the weak link of any OSU team, but I think it's been this way for a few years now and many OSU fans and followers are just totally POd. They don't seem to have the quality depth they've had for decades on their recent OLs. I think I'm going to concentrate on the Indy DL vs the OSU OL. If Indiana wins that matchup consistently, they have a shot at the upset. I'm actually thinking about taking Indiana and the points - just thinking about it right now

That D though. I don't know how Indiana is going to do anything against that defense. It's NFL players at every position.
 
I see a fairly good chance that PSU brings their A game. There's been so much punditry about PSU being overrated and ripe for an upset, the team might come out kind of angry and eager to prove the doubters wrong.

The other part of the Franklin record, aside from the big upsets, is that sometimes they have come out and just spanked teams in situations like this where people were doubting them. Like how they took it to Iowa last year. Or some of the wins over pretty good Wisconsin teams. Granted they haven't really spanked a good team this year but I do think it's possible, they have improved on O and D and they're getting some people back healthy.
I think our defense is pretty good. I think we are pretty diverse on offense:
  • two good RBs
  • GREAT TE
  • The Beau Package
  • Serviceable at WR
  • Good OL
  • Fantastic creativity
  • Very good ball protection
  • Smart, Efficient, Strong Armed QB
Minnesota is hot and cold running the ball and is 5-0 when rushing for over 100 yards.
 
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What does this tells us about our $9 million a year coach that many so called experts think we could lose? It means they don't think he is a good coach when it is crunch time. Pretty pathetic when you think about it. Big game James better not prove these guys right.

This is the 4th upset alert game of the season from various sources









3-0 in upset alert games this season. He sucks.

For those who bash our schedule, we will have been on upset alert for 25% of our games this year baring something unforeseen going into the Maryland game next weekend.

Getting bashed for a weak schedule and simultaneously a trendy pick to drop 4 of those games (on top of being an actual underdog vs osu) is really interesting logic.

 
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Penn State ain't losing to Minnesota, just like the Steelers were never going to lose to the Brow.......errrrrr 😣
To his credit, Franklin has more or less eliminated the "Franklin Special." Sure, some games are closer than they should be (like Bowling Green) but they still won.

The "Tomlin Special" can almost be counted on to happen 2-3 times a year and now, 18 years into his tenure, it still happens like clockwork.
 
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To his credit, Franklin has more or less eliminated the "Franklin Special." Sure, some games are closer than they should be (like Bowling Green) but they still won.

The "Tomlin Special" can almost be counted on to happen 2-3 times a year and now, 18 years into his tenure, it still happens like clockwork.
The Steelers also are something like 1-5-1 in the last seven games in Cleveland.
 
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This is the 4th upset alert game of the season from various sources









3-0 in upset alert games this season. He sucks.

For those who bash our schedule, we will have been on upset alert for 25% of our games this year baring something unforeseen going into the Maryland game next weekend.

Getting bashed for a weak schedule and simultaneously a trendy pick to drop 4 of those games (on top of being an actual underdog vs osu) is really interesting logic.


Actually more than 4. WVU, USC, Illinois, Wisconsin, Washington and now Minnesota. OSU was on upset alert for the PSU game.
 
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Actually more than 4. WVU, USC, Illinois, Wisconsin, Washington and now Minnesota. OSU was on upset alert for the PSU game.

You are correct. How silly of me.





So currently 5-0 in upset alert games this year.

Combined scores of those games is 151-68 with almost half the points against being USC.
 
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I know he has to talk about something but he's not making sense. Says Penn State is on upset alert and then says our two options are 1) play messy and win a close one or 2) Get out to a fast start and dominate. Thanks, Josh. I was hoping to hear some reasons why we might lose. Either one of those options works for me.
Yeah. Listening to him, it's only an upset on favored pts. He's anticipating winning by less than the line.
 
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