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https://www.10tv.com/article/urban-meyer-releases-statement-ohio-state-investigation-his-suspension

While I stand by my apologies to Courtney Smith, her children and everyone else, there have been a number of things reported in the media about President Drake's decision and the Investigative Team's Report that have not been correct and must be clarified.

First, I was not suspended because I knew about or condoned Zach Smith's alleged domestic abuse. On domestic violence, here is what the Lead Investigator stated at the Press Conference: "Overall, Coach Meyer impressed us with a sincere commitment to the Respect for Women core value that he espouses and tries to instill in his players."

On domestic violence, here is what the Investigative Report concluded: "We believe [Coach Meyer], as did Zach Smith, that if [Coach Meyer] ever came to learn or believe that Zach Smith had physically abused his wife, Coach Meyer would have fired Zach Smith or any other coach on the spot."

President Drake expressly stated the reason for Coach Meyer's suspension at the August 22, 2018 Press Conference: "Based on the independent investigation, I want to state clearly that we believe Urban Meyer did not and does not condone domestic abuse. However, he did fail to take sufficient management action regarding Zach Smith and he was not as complete an accurate at Media Days and did not uphold the high standards and values of the university on that day. Therefore, Urban Meyer is suspended through September 2nd, 2018, and for the games on September 1st, 8th, and 15th."

Second, as the report found and President Drake said, I did not lie at Big Ten Media Days. Regarding Big 10 Media Days, the Investigative Report Found: "And we credit that Coach Meyer, in answering reporters' questions on July 24th was closely focused on erroneous reports that Zach Smith had been arrested on felony charges in 2015 which Coach Meyer had determined the night before not to have occurred. But his answer swept more broadly than the falsely reported arrest and Coach Meyer falsely stated he lacked knowledge of all relevant events regarding alleged domestic violence by Zach Smith in 2015. While those denials were plainly not accurate, Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie." "[W]e do not find that Coach Meyer's misstatements on Big Ten Media Days were part of a deliberate cover-up for keeping Zach Smith on the coaching staff in the face of evidence of domestic violence by him that Coach Meyer or others in the Athletics Department credited.... He clearly misspoke and made misstatements, but the reasons that happened are complex. Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie."

Third, my fault was in not taking action sooner against a troubled employee about his work-related issues.

Regarding my management of Zach Smith, the Lead Investigator stated: "The investigation identified multiple other examples of inappropriate conduct by Zach Smith while employed as an assistant football coach, some known by Coach Meyer and/or Gene Smith and others on the football staff. Coach Meyer and Athletic Director Smith's efforts to help Zach Smith overcome his personal issues went too far in allowing him to remain as an employee in the face of repeated misconduct."






bro.... i wouldn't hang your hat on the "independent" investigation...
 
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Honestly, I wish Paterno would have fought like this...don't blame Meyer

Which one are you? Left, middle, or right?

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https://www.10tv.com/article/urban-meyer-releases-statement-ohio-state-investigation-his-suspension

While I stand by my apologies to Courtney Smith, her children and everyone else, there have been a number of things reported in the media about President Drake's decision and the Investigative Team's Report that have not been correct and must be clarified.

First, I was not suspended because I knew about or condoned Zach Smith's alleged domestic abuse. On domestic violence, here is what the Lead Investigator stated at the Press Conference: "Overall, Coach Meyer impressed us with a sincere commitment to the Respect for Women core value that he espouses and tries to instill in his players."

On domestic violence, here is what the Investigative Report concluded: "We believe [Coach Meyer], as did Zach Smith, that if [Coach Meyer] ever came to learn or believe that Zach Smith had physically abused his wife, Coach Meyer would have fired Zach Smith or any other coach on the spot."

President Drake expressly stated the reason for Coach Meyer's suspension at the August 22, 2018 Press Conference: "Based on the independent investigation, I want to state clearly that we believe Urban Meyer did not and does not condone domestic abuse. However, he did fail to take sufficient management action regarding Zach Smith and he was not as complete an accurate at Media Days and did not uphold the high standards and values of the university on that day. Therefore, Urban Meyer is suspended through September 2nd, 2018, and for the games on September 1st, 8th, and 15th."

Second, as the report found and President Drake said, I did not lie at Big Ten Media Days. Regarding Big 10 Media Days, the Investigative Report Found: "And we credit that Coach Meyer, in answering reporters' questions on July 24th was closely focused on erroneous reports that Zach Smith had been arrested on felony charges in 2015 which Coach Meyer had determined the night before not to have occurred. But his answer swept more broadly than the falsely reported arrest and Coach Meyer falsely stated he lacked knowledge of all relevant events regarding alleged domestic violence by Zach Smith in 2015. While those denials were plainly not accurate, Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie." "[W]e do not find that Coach Meyer's misstatements on Big Ten Media Days were part of a deliberate cover-up for keeping Zach Smith on the coaching staff in the face of evidence of domestic violence by him that Coach Meyer or others in the Athletics Department credited.... He clearly misspoke and made misstatements, but the reasons that happened are complex. Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie."

Third, my fault was in not taking action sooner against a troubled employee about his work-related issues.

Regarding my management of Zach Smith, the Lead Investigator stated: "The investigation identified multiple other examples of inappropriate conduct by Zach Smith while employed as an assistant football coach, some known by Coach Meyer and/or Gene Smith and others on the football staff. Coach Meyer and Athletic Director Smith's efforts to help Zach Smith overcome his personal issues went too far in allowing him to remain as an employee in the face of repeated misconduct."






bro.... i wouldn't hang your hat on the "independent" investigation...

Good thing he had that all written down for him or he wouldn't have remembered what he said. :rolleyes:
 
Honestly, I wish Paterno would have fought like this...don't blame Meyer
You do realize this just makes it worse for him and keeps this in the public eye. Now the media has another document to tear apart and find more lies he has told. Bucknut nation and the 24 hour news cycle was almost ready to pass this by but this arrogant POS just couln't let it go and has to play the victim card once again - clueless.
 
Wow. I am pretty sure this means the heat is getting to him. Every time he speaks he adjusts the settings. What might have seemed to McMurphy a trivial piece of info yesterday, could be very significant in light of this new statement.
 
https://www.10tv.com/article/urban-meyer-releases-statement-ohio-state-investigation-his-suspension

While I stand by my apologies to Courtney Smith, her children and everyone else, there have been a number of things reported in the media about President Drake's decision and the Investigative Team's Report that have not been correct and must be clarified.

First, I was not suspended because I knew about or condoned Zach Smith's alleged domestic abuse. On domestic violence, here is what the Lead Investigator stated at the Press Conference: "Overall, Coach Meyer impressed us with a sincere commitment to the Respect for Women core value that he espouses and tries to instill in his players."

On domestic violence, here is what the Investigative Report concluded: "We believe [Coach Meyer], as did Zach Smith, that if [Coach Meyer] ever came to learn or believe that Zach Smith had physically abused his wife, Coach Meyer would have fired Zach Smith or any other coach on the spot."

President Drake expressly stated the reason for Coach Meyer's suspension at the August 22, 2018 Press Conference: "Based on the independent investigation, I want to state clearly that we believe Urban Meyer did not and does not condone domestic abuse. However, he did fail to take sufficient management action regarding Zach Smith and he was not as complete an accurate at Media Days and did not uphold the high standards and values of the university on that day. Therefore, Urban Meyer is suspended through September 2nd, 2018, and for the games on September 1st, 8th, and 15th."

Second, as the report found and President Drake said, I did not lie at Big Ten Media Days. Regarding Big 10 Media Days, the Investigative Report Found: "And we credit that Coach Meyer, in answering reporters' questions on July 24th was closely focused on erroneous reports that Zach Smith had been arrested on felony charges in 2015 which Coach Meyer had determined the night before not to have occurred. But his answer swept more broadly than the falsely reported arrest and Coach Meyer falsely stated he lacked knowledge of all relevant events regarding alleged domestic violence by Zach Smith in 2015. While those denials were plainly not accurate, Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie." "[W]e do not find that Coach Meyer's misstatements on Big Ten Media Days were part of a deliberate cover-up for keeping Zach Smith on the coaching staff in the face of evidence of domestic violence by him that Coach Meyer or others in the Athletics Department credited.... He clearly misspoke and made misstatements, but the reasons that happened are complex. Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie."

Third, my fault was in not taking action sooner against a troubled employee about his work-related issues.

Regarding my management of Zach Smith, the Lead Investigator stated: "The investigation identified multiple other examples of inappropriate conduct by Zach Smith while employed as an assistant football coach, some known by Coach Meyer and/or Gene Smith and others on the football staff. Coach Meyer and Athletic Director Smith's efforts to help Zach Smith overcome his personal issues went too far in allowing him to remain as an employee in the face of repeated misconduct."






bro.... i wouldn't hang your hat on the "independent" investigation...
So, ZS did NOT get fired for being a domestic abuser or a violator of a protective order. He got fired because he was "a troubled employee," with "work related issues."

I guess it just was a coincidence that he got fired just as McMurphy was breaking a story about his non-work related legal issues. HAA!
 
You do realize this just makes it worse for him and keeps this in the public eye. Now the media has another document to tear apart and find more lies he has told. Bucknut nation and the 24 hour news cycle was almost ready to pass this by but this arrogant POS just couln't let it go and has to play the victim card once again - clueless.

Yea something about putting down the shovel.
SFU and be grateful you only got a 3 game suspension...unless there's more coming....hmmmm....refilling that popcorn.
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https://www.10tv.com/article/urban-meyer-releases-statement-ohio-state-investigation-his-suspension

While I stand by my apologies to Courtney Smith, her children and everyone else, there have been a number of things reported in the media about President Drake's decision and the Investigative Team's Report that have not been correct and must be clarified.

First, I was not suspended because I knew about or condoned Zach Smith's alleged domestic abuse. On domestic violence, here is what the Lead Investigator stated at the Press Conference: "Overall, Coach Meyer impressed us with a sincere commitment to the Respect for Women core value that he espouses and tries to instill in his players."

On domestic violence, here is what the Investigative Report concluded: "We believe [Coach Meyer], as did Zach Smith, that if [Coach Meyer] ever came to learn or believe that Zach Smith had physically abused his wife, Coach Meyer would have fired Zach Smith or any other coach on the spot."

President Drake expressly stated the reason for Coach Meyer's suspension at the August 22, 2018 Press Conference: "Based on the independent investigation, I want to state clearly that we believe Urban Meyer did not and does not condone domestic abuse. However, he did fail to take sufficient management action regarding Zach Smith and he was not as complete an accurate at Media Days and did not uphold the high standards and values of the university on that day. Therefore, Urban Meyer is suspended through September 2nd, 2018, and for the games on September 1st, 8th, and 15th."

Second, as the report found and President Drake said, I did not lie at Big Ten Media Days. Regarding Big 10 Media Days, the Investigative Report Found: "And we credit that Coach Meyer, in answering reporters' questions on July 24th was closely focused on erroneous reports that Zach Smith had been arrested on felony charges in 2015 which Coach Meyer had determined the night before not to have occurred. But his answer swept more broadly than the falsely reported arrest and Coach Meyer falsely stated he lacked knowledge of all relevant events regarding alleged domestic violence by Zach Smith in 2015. While those denials were plainly not accurate, Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie." "[W]e do not find that Coach Meyer's misstatements on Big Ten Media Days were part of a deliberate cover-up for keeping Zach Smith on the coaching staff in the face of evidence of domestic violence by him that Coach Meyer or others in the Athletics Department credited.... He clearly misspoke and made misstatements, but the reasons that happened are complex. Coach Meyer did not, in our view, deliberately lie."

Third, my fault was in not taking action sooner against a troubled employee about his work-related issues.

Regarding my management of Zach Smith, the Lead Investigator stated: "The investigation identified multiple other examples of inappropriate conduct by Zach Smith while employed as an assistant football coach, some known by Coach Meyer and/or Gene Smith and others on the football staff. Coach Meyer and Athletic Director Smith's efforts to help Zach Smith overcome his personal issues went too far in allowing him to remain as an employee in the face of repeated misconduct."






bro.... i wouldn't hang your hat on the "independent" investigation...

As Shakespeare wrote...tho doth protest too much Urbs.
 
Funny comments from Twitter

Soon his statement of that statement will clear up his other statement that he meant to clarify from said statement.

He just misquoted himself - one of the symptoms from his medication

George Costanza said.. "It's not a lie... if you believe it"

"Look, I'm sorry about what happened to Courtney. But let's not forget who the real victim is in all of this. Me."

"I don't condone domestic violence or Zach Smith but also continued to employ and defend him but that isn't my fault, he just magically stayed employed. I'm really the good guy here."

Dude he repeatedly lied on accident because he has medical problems with memory and actually never lied. What about this doesn't make complete sense to you?

"I only deleted my text messages because I was running out of iCloud storage."
 
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https://www.10tv.com/article/urban-meyer-releases-statement-ohio-state-investigation-his-suspension

"Overall, Coach Meyer impressed us with a sincere commitment to the Respect for Women core value that he espouses and tries to instill in his players." "We believe [Coach Meyer], as did Zach Smith, that if [Coach Meyer] ever came to learn or believe that Zach Smith had physically abused his wife, Coach Meyer would have fired Zach Smith or any other coach on the spot."

President Drake expressly stated the reason for Coach Meyer's suspension at the August 22, 2018 Press Conference: "Based on the independent investigation, I want to state clearly that we believe Urban Meyer did not and does not condone domestic abuse.

I trust Meyer doesn't condone domestic abuse and would have fired him if he knew he physically abused his wife.

The problem isn't his position on domestic abuse. It's his position on integrity, and

his willingness to lie and thwart an "independent" investigation and

the reasonable questions re: the lengths he, the investigators, board, University President and AD are willing to go to serve "Buckeye Nation" and themselves.

This is even if the best narrative unfolds re: the Smiths.
 
i guess he is still suspended so he has a lot of time on his hands to think about it. but to put something like this out means he is still seething inside about this whole thing. which means he is not going to be real focused come football season when he gets off suspension. plus continues to give the press more stories to write. i wonder how OSU is going to handle media days when UM comes back. will they just give a blanket statement that says no questions will be answered about it. will the press just keep asking questions about it and force UM to say no comment and have it get real awkward.
 
Is he really hanging his hat on a report that says "he falsely stated......but did not deliberately lie"? I mean this sounds like me in grade school or as a teenager trying to use lawyer speak to keep my momma from whipping my arse. "I'm not lying, mom! It's just not the truth!"

At this point, all parties except Courtney and DV victims should be happy. UM and OSU should just go silent.
 
You do realize this just makes it worse for him and keeps this in the public eye. Now the media has another document to tear apart and find more lies he has told. Bucknut nation and the 24 hour news cycle was almost ready to pass this by but this arrogant POS just couln't let it go and has to play the victim card once again - clueless.

I think you're making more of this than there is. I don't have an issue with anyone defending themselves though, yeah, you're right, not the best PR move.
 
You're not a Penn State fan and you have no business commenting on Joe Paterno. Get lost troll.

Still a Penn State fan...I love how for years people have said they wish he would have fought against it from the beginning but now that I say it because that's exactly what Urban is doing then everyone changes their opinion...class BWI
 
I'm aware...Paterno was healthy enough to coach when it happened--he was healthy enough to fight it as well IMO...if you disagree that's fine
From the day Joe was fired on 9 November, 2011 until the end of Joe Paterno's life was 74 days. BEFORE he was fired he already carried the tumors which would kill him in his lungs. He was not even healthy enough to continue coaching, most likely, and would have surely missed any bowl game REGARDLESS. You ought to shut up. You are f'ing with people on some pretty serious stuff here.
 
From the day Joe was fired on 9 November, 2011 until the end of Joe Paterno's life was 74 days. BEFORE he was fired he already carried the tumors which would kill him in his lungs. He was not even healthy enough to continue coaching, most likely, and would have surely missed any bowl game REGARDLESS. You ought to shut up. You are f'ing with people on some pretty serious stuff here.

Then why was he coaching? Isn't it well know he wanted to hold a press conference immediately to defend himself but didn't. Every time you give me an order I'll fight harder. You're full of s*** right here...people in far worse shape than Joe have fought. I don't blame Joe for not fighting but I wish he had.
 
From the day Joe was fired on 9 November, 2011 until the end of Joe Paterno's life was 74 days. BEFORE he was fired he already carried the tumors which would kill him in his lungs. He was not even healthy enough to continue coaching, most likely, and would have surely missed any bowl game REGARDLESS. You ought to shut up. You are f'ing with people on some pretty serious stuff here.
Sadly it’s a sign of the times. Our modern World has made it far to simple to hide behind a keyboard and attack people. Especially those that can’t defend themselves.
 
Then why was he coaching? Isn't it well know he wanted to hold a press conference immediately to defend himself but didn't. Every time you give me an order I'll fight harder. You're full of s*** right here...people in far worse shape than Joe have fought. I don't blame Joe for not fighting but I wish he had.
Jackass. the more you show yourself, the clearer it becomes what a d-bag you are. I already knew that. If you want others to know it, then finally we agree on something
 
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