USA COVID-19 Vaccination Updates

[WPTLION]

The Penn State College of Health and Human Development did one such study throughout 2020 and into 2021 but I've never seen results published. My daughter was a participant in the study and she received a $20 Giant gift card each of the times (2) that she had blood drawn. The first time was May 2020 and it showed that she had had a previous infection, which she didn't know about as she hadn't had any symptoms.

Didn't USC or another CA school do a similar study and found that the number at the time could be up to 50x(which is way to high even in my opinion!) more people then knew they had it.

There was a French study to looking at long covid that had 60% of the participants who didn't think they had covid actually did. I'm posting this for that stat not the long covid part.

Long Covid doesn't exist, volume one zillion

A huge French study shows BELIEVING you had Covid is associated with many later symptoms. But ACTUALLY having had Covid isn't associated with any (except loss of sense of smell).

alexberenson.substack.com

 

[Cletus11]

The study from last May I think was based on 2020, when they said up to 4x as many people had it and didn't know it. I think you probably could assume the same up until maybe October. But in the last few months it seems testing went through the roof. They don't want to know who has natural immunity. This is still on the CDC website:

Getting sick with COVID-19 offers some protection from future illness with COVID-19, sometimes called “natural immunity.” The level of protection people get from having COVID-19 may vary depending on how mild or severe their illness was, the time since their infection, and their age. No currently available test can reliably determine if a person is protected from infection.

All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19. Getting a COVID-19 vaccine gives most people a high level of protection against COVID-19 even in people who have already been sick with COVID-19.

Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

i am confused by what you think your last sentenceis saying and the article posted below shows what anybody in medical field would expect. Previous infection + vaccination is the most safe, then previous infection without vax, then vax, then nothing. Like any scientist would expect.

in any case, think we peaked in the USA this past week and we will see the numbers start going down this week. we are also seeing a lot more articles and talking heads and MSM start to talk about lockdowns and shutdowns and closures, etc...not being the right pathway considering Omicron (and to a lesser extent Delta) made the vaccine ineffective against getting and transmitting Covid. Assuming we see the numbers really go down relatively fast in February, i think as weather improves in March we see the numbers continue to push low.

Only question left in my mind is there another variant out there that will just repeat what omicron did (I think probably yes) and when that does occur, what will be the response this time around.

 

[WPTLION]

i am confused by what you think your last sentenceis saying and the article posted below shows what anybody in medical field would expect. Previous infection + vaccination is the most safe, then previous infection without vax, then vax, then nothing. Like any scientist would expect.

in any case, think we peaked in the USA this past week and we will see the numbers start going down this week. we are also seeing a lot more articles and talking heads and MSM start to talk about lockdowns and shutdowns and closures, etc...not being the right pathway considering Omicron (and to a lesser extent Delta) made the vaccine ineffective against getting and transmitting Covid. Assuming we see the numbers really go down relatively fast in February, i think as weather improves in March we see the numbers continue to push low.

Only question left in my mind is there another variant out there that will just repeat what omicron did (I think probably yes) and when that does occur, what will be the response this time around.

The last sentence that says 2X more likely. From one study---months ago is still on their website. Meanwhile their most recent study shows minimal increase being vaxxed after infection. Getting the vax is hardly worth it after infection. If you aren't in the vulnerable category there is no benefit from getting vaxxed after infection especially if your case was mild.

CDC Study: Natural Immunity Provides Significantly More Protection Against COVID Than Vaccination Only

A CDC study shows that those who have recovered from COVID-19 have more protection against infection than those who have only been vaccinated.

ijr.com

 

[PSUEngineer89]

The Penn State College of Health and Human Development did one such study throughout 2020 and into 2021 but I've never seen results published. My daughter was a participant in the study and she received a $20 Giant gift card each of the times (2) that she had blood drawn. The first time was May 2020 and it showed that she had had a previous infection, which she didn't know about as she hadn't had any symptoms.

Interesting.

The idiots in our wasteful federal government receive $12 billion per years, but have managed not to get an estimate.

However, they are able to waste money on an obviously fraudulent study showing vaccines are stronger than natural immunity.

 

[tlbakernc]

So, treatment only after two symptoms develop, plus time to mail the drug to the user.

Since the proposed method of effectiveness is stopping viral replication, seems like this is a trial "designed to fail".

Honest people would prescribe IVM as a preventative to 5000 people and track them to see their rate of infection and degree of illness.

Sheeple are awaiting their confirmation that "it doesn't work"

Much agreed! 99% of doctors will not prescribe the drug. Hard to get accurate data on a drug that has been bastardized.

 

[tlbakernc]

Who can find information on the percentage of people in the USA who have NATURAL IMMUNITY to Covid?

I can't find it anywhere. It's done by checking the antibodies in the bloodstream. So, it is easy to do if you simply take blood donors.

Yet, I can't find it anywhere. Zero. Zilch.

But now that we know that the vaccine will not assist very much in achieving herd immunity, it is the single most important piece of data.

Easy to get. Highest importance. Yet nothing.

Our institutions have failed us. Terrible.

There is an old study from May that's out there, but we need information from the last month or so.

This has been my biggest complaint since the beginning. The damn CDC never kept data on natural immunity. It down right pisses me off. Common sense would tell you study natural immunity. Yet they’ve chose to ignore the data in order to promote vaccination as the only means. I’ve post early about my natural immunity. Covid positive in March 2021, tested posted for positive for antibody tested in July 2021 and January 2022. Only reason I continue to be tested so I can relay personal information for people to see…

 

[GulfCoastLion]

This has been my biggest complaint since the beginning. The damn CDC never kept data on natural immunity. It down right pisses me off. Common sense would tell you study natural immunity. Yet they’ve chose to ignore the data in order to promote vaccination as the only means. I’ve post early about my natural immunity. Covid positive in March 2021, tested posted for positive for antibody tested in July 2021 and January 2022. Only reason I continue to be tested so I can relay personal information for people to see…

Any doctor, nurse, or health care worker who tried to discuss it, was immediately discredited & censored, or banned for doing so. It went on for almost 2 years and it’s still happening now. Just like using simple, well known, inexpensive, effective, FDA approved therapeutic treatments to combat COVID-19 early when symptomatic. It wasn’t allowed.

 

[tgar]

Any doctor, nurse, or health care worker who tried to discuss it, was immediately discredited & censored, or banned for doing so. It went on for almost 2 years and it’s still happening now. Just like using simple, well known, inexpensive, effective, FDA approved therapeutic treatments to combat COVID-19 early when symptomatic. It wasn’t allowed.

And speaking of simple inexpensive therapeutics look at what your team of dummies has now resorted too. What’s next for you folks, eating turtle shit? https://www.theguardian.com/comment...i-vaxxers-covid-drinking-urine-misinformation

 

[PSUEngineer89]

And speaking of simple inexpensive therapeutics look at what your team of dummies has now resorted too. What’s next for you folks, eating turtle shit? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/anti-vaxxers-covid-drinking-urine-misinf

Wear your N95 mask and don’t worry about what others do.

 

[WPTLION]

And speaking of simple inexpensive therapeutics look at what your team of dummies has now resorted too. What’s next for you folks, eating turtle shit? https://www.theguardian.com/comment...i-vaxxers-covid-drinking-urine-misinformation

More of a chance that works then masks! Keep wearing your 3 alone in your car! HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[tgar]

More of a chance that works then masks! Keep wearing your 3 alone in your car! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Ok Mr. piss drinker, Will do.

 

[WPTLION]

Ok Mr. piss drinker, Will do.

Why would I drink piss for something that has a 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% survival rate? That's right I wouldn't but people like you will believe anything the government tells you no matter how often they are proven wrong just because you like Biden breathing on your neck.

 

[tgar]

To summarize the results of the average anti vaxxer to date…….

HCQ didn’t work
Bleach didn’t work
Light bulb up the ass didn’t work
Pig Dewormer didn’t work
drinking one’s own piss………maybe? LOL

No wonder you guys are doing such a great job of thinning your own herd.

 

[tgar]

Why would I drink piss for something that has a 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% survival rate? That's right I wouldn't but people like you will believe anything the government tells you no matter how often they are proven wrong just because you like Biden breathing on your neck.

You seem a little riled up this morning. Go have another healthy glass full of Piss. ****ing dope.

 

[WPTLION]

To summarize the results of the average anti vaxxer to date…….

HCQ didn’t work
Bleach didn’t work
Light bulb up the ass didn’t work
Pig Dewormer didn’t work
drinking one’s own piss………maybe? LOL

No wonder you guys are doing such a great job of thinning your own herd.

Shows what a complete FOOL you really are.

HCQ---WORKS

Bleach--WAS NEVER SUGGESTED---however a small amount is used in other countries for nasal irrigation

The ligh bulb theory as you call it---works.

Umm first I thought it was horse dewormer---you know the one that won a nobel prize---WORKS!!!!

You know what has been proven to not completely work---VACCINES- sorry but if people are still dying they are actually less effective then taking HCQ or Ivermectin early. I know vaccines aren't always 100% effective but had they tried the drugs we all know work there would be no need for a vaccine that at best 6 months later offers no protection.

Problem is MORONS like you are the reason we don't have the drugs to save people from dying because the vaccines aren't doing it!

 

[WPTLION]

You seem a little riled up this morning. Go have another healthy glass full of Piss. ****ing dope.

Not really--people like you that have no clue what you're talking about should really stop talking and proving to the world that you have dementia like Brandon!

 

[LaJollaLion]

You seem a little riled up this morning. Go have another healthy glass full of Piss. ****ing dope.

 

[wilbury]

To summarize the results of the average anti vaxxer to date…….

HCQ didn’t work
Bleach didn’t work
Light bulb up the ass didn’t work
Pig Dewormer didn’t work
drinking one’s own piss………maybe? LOL

No wonder you guys are doing such a great job of thinning your own herd.

I agree with you 100% on all of these stupid treatment ideas. It's really amusing to see what people come up with. Maybe if the CDC would have recommended HCQ and Ivermectin these loons would have come up with something else.

But if you think the herd that's being thinned is white republican anti-vaxxers, you're wrong.

 

[GulfCoastLion]

And speaking of simple inexpensive therapeutics look at what your team of dummies has now resorted too. What’s next for you folks, eating turtle shit? https://www.theguardian.com/comment...i-vaxxers-covid-drinking-urine-misinformation

Keep taking to yourself in the 3rd person and stop worrying about what completely healthy US citizens are doing. And don’t forget to get you next booster shot when Fauci & Biden tell you

 

[Omar81]

So the a-holes took the weekend off (it was great, wasn’t it?), but now they’re back in full force and if possible being bigger d!cks than ever. Oh well.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Studies on Ivermectin show positive results as Covid-19 treatment - BizNews.com

This synopsis by Rubin van Niekerk is on a peer reviewed meta analysis about 60 studies on the treatment impact of Ivermectin on Covid-19.

www.biznews.com

 

[tgar]

I agree with you 100% on all of these stupid treatment ideas. It's really amusing to see what people come up with. Maybe if the CDC would have recommended HCQ and Ivermectin these loons would have come up with something else.

But if you think the herd that's being thinned is white republican anti-vaxxers, you're wrong.

I get that the thinning herd is much more inclusive than dumb, chubby, pasty, white guys over 40 though there are certainly plenty of them self thinning as well.

 

[The Spin Meister]

To summarize the results of the average anti vaxxer to date…….

HCQ didn’t work
Bleach didn’t work
Light bulb up the ass didn’t work
Pig Dewormer didn’t work
drinking one’s own piss………maybe? LOL

No wonder you guys are doing such a great job of thinning your own herd.

Do you ever post anything factually true?

 

[WPTLION]

Do you ever post anything factually true?

NOPE!

 

[LaJollaLion]

Do you ever post anything factually true?

Are you ever going to realize you're being played? You thought you did something there. Does your actual Doctor prescribe this medicine to his or her Covid patients.....I bet the answer is Nope. You're one step from being a Qnut....congrats.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2114907

How shaky ivermectin studies overseas wreaked havoc in the U.S.

Not a single scientific or health authority in the U.S. recommends the use of the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19. Still, some Americans see the unproven drug as a way out of the pandemic.

www.wfyi.org

Why ivermectin should not be used to prevent or treat COVID-19

With an increase in calls to poison-control centers, the CDC and FDA strongly warn against the use of the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin for COVID-19.

www.ama-assn.org

The Ivermectin Train Cannot Stop

It started with a laboratory study on African green monkey kidney cells. While the dose used was much higher than what doctors would prescribe, the results were promising. Ivermectin could stop the new coronavirus from making copies of itself. This drug, ivermectin, has acquired political...

www.mcgill.ca

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

Using the Drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 can be dangerous and even lethal. The FDA has not approved the drug for that purpose.

www.fda.gov

 

[The Spin Meister]

Are you ever going to realize you're being played?

How shaky ivermectin studies overseas wreaked havoc in the U.S.

Not a single scientific or health authority in the U.S. recommends the use of the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19. Still, some Americans see the unproven drug as a way out of the pandemic.

www.wfyi.org

Why ivermectin should not be used to prevent or treat COVID-19

With an increase in calls to poison-control centers, the CDC and FDA strongly warn against the use of the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin for COVID-19.

www.ama-assn.org

The Ivermectin Train Cannot Stop

It started with a laboratory study on African green monkey kidney cells. While the dose used was much higher than what doctors would prescribe, the results were promising. Ivermectin could stop the new coronavirus from making copies of itself. This drug, ivermectin, has acquired political...

www.mcgill.ca

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

Using the Drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 can be dangerous and even lethal. The FDA has not approved the drug for that purpose.

www.fda.gov

What is the date of your article.....ooooops, treat your parasites.

Who is being played? Almost every study showing it doesn’t work were ones in hospitals with patients that were already very ill. Studies using it within 48 hrs of onset show good results. So why do ‘they’ continuously use such flawed studies?

 

[LaJollaLion]

Who is being played? Almost every study showing it doesn’t work were ones in hospitals with patients that were already very ill. Studies using it within 48 hrs of onset show good results. So why do ‘they’ continuously use such flawed studies?

What about using human ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19?​

Ivermectin for humans is being touted as a potential way to prevent and treat COVID-19 — but the truth is, the data doesn’t support this claim.

“So far, all the studies on ivermectin have shown that it’s not an effective treatment for COVID-19,” says Dr. Martin. “There was one study out of Egypt that showed it may be effective; however, it turned out that the data was falsified, and the study wasn’t formally published.”

Can ivermectin treat COVID-19?

Dr. Stanley Martin, infectious diseases specialist at Geisinger, reveals the truth about taking ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19 infection.

www.geisinger.org

You see real Doctors follow science and protocols, but you keep telling yourself that you're on to something here. When my actual Doctor or the medical community as a whole say this is effective...I'll buy it. That isn't the case no matter how bad you want it to be. Maybe that changes, but it is clearly not the case as of right now. Sorry your feelings get in the way of any possible rational thought you may try to have.

 

[The Spin Meister]

What about using human ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19?​

Ivermectin for humans is being touted as a potential way to prevent and treat COVID-19 — but the truth is, the data doesn’t support this claim.

“So far, all the studies on ivermectin have shown that it’s not an effective treatment for COVID-19,” says Dr. Martin. “There was one study out of Egypt that showed it may be effective; however, it turned out that the data was falsified, and the study wasn’t formally published.”

Can ivermectin treat COVID-19?

Dr. Stanley Martin, infectious diseases specialist at Geisinger, reveals the truth about taking ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19 infection.

www.geisinger.org

• Meta analysis using the most serious outcome reported shows 76% and 85% improvement for early treatment and prophylaxis (RR 0.24 [0.14-0.41] and 0.15 [0.09-0.25]), with similar results after exclusion based sensitivity analysis, restriction to peer-reviewed studies, and restriction to Randomized Controlled Trials.
• 81% and 96% lower mortality is observed for early treatment and prophylaxis (RR 0.19 [0.07-0.54] and 0.04 [0.00-0.58]). Statistically significant improvements are seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance. 28 studies show statistically significant improvements in isolation.

 

[tlbakernc]

Keep taking to yourself in the 3rd person and stop worrying about what completely healthy US citizens are doing. And don’t forget to get you next booster shot when Fauci & Biden tell you

See table 14 on page 38. More people are dying with being vaccinated than without. Further backs the UK study showing the same data.

https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11223/22-01-19-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf

 

[tgar]

Do you ever post anything factually true?

Hey man, all true. You would be one of the last folks I would consult for advice on how to stay safe during this pandemic. My physician on the other hand………..

Stick to your HCQ, Pig dewormer, light bulbs, bleach, urine and whatever comes next from your team of self appointed experts.

 

[knickslions]

What about using human ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19?​

Ivermectin for humans is being touted as a potential way to prevent and treat COVID-19 — but the truth is, the data doesn’t support this claim.

“So far, all the studies on ivermectin have shown that it’s not an effective treatment for COVID-19,” says Dr. Martin. “There was one study out of Egypt that showed it may be effective; however, it turned out that the data was falsified, and the study wasn’t formally published.”

Can ivermectin treat COVID-19?

Dr. Stanley Martin, infectious diseases specialist at Geisinger, reveals the truth about taking ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19 infection.

www.geisinger.org

You see real Doctors follow science and protocols, but you keep telling yourself that you're on to something here. When my actual Doctor or the medical community as a whole say this is effective...I'll buy it. That isn't the case no matter how bad you want it to be. Maybe that changes, but it is clearly not the case as of right now. Sorry your feelings get in the way of any possible rational thought you may try to have.

Conspiracy guys are like a broken record on ivermectin. They just cant move on.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Are you ever going to realize you're being played?

The use of Ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of Covid-19 has been the subject of much debate. The World Health Organisation‘s recommendation against Ivermectin as an alternative treatment for Covid-19 is shrouded in suspicion as the WHO’s second biggest donor is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF). Bill Gates also founded and funds The Vaccine Alliance (GAVI). The connection and clear conflict of interest is thus astounding

 

[tgar]

See table 14 on page 38. More people are dying with being vaccinated than without. Further backs the UK study showing the same data.

https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11223/22-01-19-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf

When 90% plus over 12 have been vaccinated at least once it seems pretty logical a majority of folks who are dying have had the jab. 100% of everyone who dies was breathing before they died As well.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Hey man, all true. You would be one of the last folks I would consult for advice on how to stay safe during this pandemic. My physician on the other hand………..

Stick to your HCQ, Pig dewormer, light bulbs, bleach, urine and whatever comes next from your team of self appointed experts.

Your obvious strategy is to post gross exaggerations and distortions because you are incapable of a rational, fact based discussion on the issues. You would much rather emote hyperbolic rants to cover your ineptitude. Thats ok, you have to compensate for your weaknesses as necessary.

Don’t really care who’s advise you follow on your own personal treatment. That’s a persona decision for each person to make.

 

[GulfCoastLion]

Who is being played? Almost every study showing it doesn’t work were ones in hospitals with patients that were already very ill. Studies using it within 48 hrs of onset show good results. So why do ‘they’ continuously use such flawed studies?

Don’t confuse people like La Jolla Lion & TGAR with facts. They can’t handle the truth. Only what CNN, MSNBC, or Dr Fauci tell them relative to the China virus ‘plan-demic’ and subsequent experimental mRNA jabs to protect themselves.

 

[Obliviax]

When 90% plus over 12 have been vaccinated at least once it seems pretty logical a majority of folks who are dying have had the jab. 100% of everyone who dies was breathing before they died As well.

If true, the 90%, that is far and away greater than the goals and far greater than the herd immunity number.

send to the point, omicron has changed the game. There are zero stats to measure severity so the notion that the vax is better than not vaxxed vs omicron is anecdotal and incomplete at best (as omicron mature)

Few argue to not get vaxxed, s as the 90% rate shows. There is only one reason to quote these numbers today = politics

 

[LaJollaLion]

Don’t confuse people like La Jolla Lion & TGAR with facts. They can’t handle the truth. Only what CNN, MSNBC, or Dr Fauci tell them relative to the China virus ‘plan-demic’ and subsequent experimental mRNA jabs to protect themselves.

Facts are Ivermectin isn't being prescribed to treat Covid. That is a fact, the medical community is not using this to treat people. Sorry Tucker, OAN, and Rogan aren't telling you this, but if you went to a real Doctor, he wouldn't prescribe it for you. That is the simple truth and it bothers you guys so much it's funny. Maybe you get your advice from the TV or YouTube....that makes sense for how GD stupid you are. Talk to your real doctor about that drug......see if he recommends it. I'll wait.

 

[WPTLION]

Hey man, all true. You would be one of the last folks I would consult for advice on how to stay safe during this pandemic. My physician on the other hand………..

Stick to your HCQ, Pig dewormer, light bulbs, bleach, urine and whatever comes next from your team of self appointed experts.

You can't even tell us what to stick to correctly--- the only thing you got right HCQ---WORKED!

 

[WPTLION]

When 90% plus over 12 have been vaccinated at least once it seems pretty logical a majority of folks who are dying have had the jab. 100% of everyone who dies was breathing before they died As well.

You are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo DUMB it hurts

 

[NewEra 2014]

Are you ever going to realize you're being played? You thought you did something there. Does your actual Doctor prescribe this medicine to his or her Covid patients.....I bet the answer is Nope. You're one step from being a Qnut....congrats.

Stop projecting about "being played". You are the genius who vaxed your five-year-old about a week before it became clear that the vax doesn't work against Omicron.