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new pick up line (relax, its a joke):

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I read that article and it just is so all over the place zero idea what it is saying. Horrible journalism. Other than the Lancet is basically and bought and paid for propaganda magazine for somebody.
Well "there were rats and bats and mice but who was so forlorn?
The most likely virus host was the lovely Unicorn"

All of these people are full of shxxt. It did, no it didn't , well it might have, but then again maybe not.
 

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Thank God, Biden says the pandemic is over! You can now resume normal activity.

Now I'm worried, because my MO is to do and believe the exact opposite of what his administration says and does, which almost always produces a positive result.
 
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so NPR wants to keep the pandemic going forever basically is the jist of the article.
WaPo also chimes in. Lots of people invested in ‘pandemic’. Gravy train may be ending. Also saw a report from Horvitz and the CDC sounding the alarm on kids not getting vaccinated. Apparently less than .5 of 1% . They are really struggling to come to grips with the fact that nobody believes them anymore, be that god our bad.



 
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WaPo also chimes in. Lots of people invested in ‘pandemic’. Gravy train may be ending. Also saw a report from Horvitz and the CDC sounding the alarm on kids not getting vaccinated. Apparently less than .5 of 1% . They are really struggling to come to grips with the fact that nobody believes them anymore, be that god our bad.



Interesting Freudian slip as the CDC may have saw itself as God during these draconian measures they backed.
 

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WaPo also chimes in. Lots of people invested in ‘pandemic’. Gravy train may be ending. Also saw a report from Horvitz and the CDC sounding the alarm on kids not getting vaccinated. Apparently less than .5 of 1% . They are really struggling to come to grips with the fact that nobody believes them anymore, be that god our bad.



yeah, the reasons they give to not end the pandemic are not medical but policy issues that the 'emergency' will not take away. So admitting that the pandemic was a not about the medical but about the emergency powers and all the govt. programs put in place.
 

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So a data update:

New hospital admissions are still on the same basic decline that they have been since the end of July. So and steady. Current new hospital admission 7 day average is 3859. So a ways to go before we get back down to less than 2000 per day which was the low points in July 2020 and April 2022. I am just happy that it appears that we did not have a spike due to kids going back to school. I thought potentially with colleges and high schools back in session we might see a leveling off or even an uptick but it appears that is not happening.

7 day on the fatality has some strange data. Average was 352 on September 11 and then went up to 405 on September 15. Remember these are 7 day averages so very strange large jump in a few day period. I have not looked into why but typically anomalies like that occur due to a data dump although I thought the fatality data was not actually dated to when the person died not when it was reported (which was one of the very stupid things being done in the beginning of the pandemic and was an early indicator this was not about medical science but politics). The average is coming back down the last few days and at 360 as of September 18th. So basically since September 8th the fatality data makes no sense as the new hospital admission data has been on a steady decline with no anamolies. But the fatality data, which should track the same is not on that same steady decline even though it was tracking perfectly from August 12 for a month period of time.
 
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So a data update:

New hospital admissions are still on the same basic decline that they have been since the end of July. So and steady. Current new hospital admission 7 day average is 3859. So a ways to go before we get back down to less than 2000 per day which was the low points in July 2020 and April 2022. I am just happy that it appears that we did not have a spike due to kids going back to school. I thought potentially with colleges and high schools back in session we might see a leveling off or even an uptick but it appears that is not happening.

7 day on the fatality has some strange data. Average was 352 on September 11 and then went up to 405 on September 15. Remember these are 7 day averages so very strange large jump in a few day period. I have not looked into why but typically anomalies like that occur due to a data dump although I thought the fatality data was not actually dated to when the person died not when it was reported (which was one of the very stupid things being done in the beginning of the pandemic and was an early indicator this was not about medical science but politics). The average is coming back down the last few days and at 360 as of September 18th. So basically since September 8th the fatality data makes no sense as the new hospital admission data has been on a steady decline with no anamolies. But the fatality data, which should track the same is not on that same steady decline even though it was tracking perfectly from August 12 for a month period of time.
The kids are ignoring it now. Have a nephew that's a freshman at PSU and according to him they all had it, at first people filled up the quarantine rooms, PSU advised local students to quarantine at home if their families were close as quarantine space was filled, and most kids simply ignored it and went on with life (no testing, no quarantine, having fun).
 

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yeah, the reasons they give to not end the pandemic are not medical but policy issues that the 'emergency' will not take away. So admitting that the pandemic was a not about the medical but about the emergency powers and all the govt. programs put in place.
Reality is, if the govt says it is or isn't over, the citizens have turned the page. COVID is still a risk. More or less than a regular flu? Depends on what propaganda you read. But, and this is the scary part, the CDC has cried "wolf" far too much and now nobody is listening. I hope they feel ruining the credibility of the medical industry was worth it. Even today, many news outlets are continuing to sound the alarm bells. There is no self-awareness at all.
 

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The kids are ignoring it now. Have a nephew that's a freshman at PSU and according to him they all had it, at first people filled up the quarantine rooms, PSU advised local students to quarantine at home if their families were close as quarantine space was filled, and most kids simply ignored it and went on with life (no testing, no quarantine, having fun).
same for my daughter. In fact, getting sick was almost a sign of community. They partied like crazy the first month of school and all got sick. Nobody even tested. As a result, the formal infection rate is still below mask mandate levels. The University has been threatening to go to mask mandates so the kids quit testing to keep the rates at a moderate level. Crazy kids!
 
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Reality is, if the govt says it is or isn't over, the citizens have turned the page. COVID is still a risk. More or less than a regular flu? Depends on what propaganda you read. But, and this is the scary part, the CDC has cried "wolf" far too much and now nobody is listening. I hope they feel ruining the credibility of the medical industry was worth it. Even today, many news outlets are continuing to sound the alarm bells. There is no self-awareness at all.
Hate to say it but many of our institutions have ruined their credibility as of late. Who do you trust when your government and the media blatantly lies to you daily?
 

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same for my daughter. In fact, getting sick was almost a sign of community. They partied like crazy the first month of school and all got sick. Nobody even tested. As a result, the formal infection rate is still below mask mandate levels. The University has been threatening to go to mask mandates so the kids quit testing to keep the rates at a moderate level. Crazy kids!
And people give that generation crap, maybe there is hope yet?
 

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Hate to say it but many of our institutions have ruined their credibility as of late. Who do you trust when your government and the media blatantly lies to you daily?
I've said this for at least two years "We are on our own.". There is nobody to trust. My last holdout was NPR. I know they "lean" but had, at least, a low level of fairness. I heard an interview two years ago when they were discussing how the state of Arkansas was handling the financial drain on the increase in hospitalizations. The person in charge stated that they were getting more govt money if the person tested positive for COVID so there was no problem, financially, at all. And started to explain the drain on other diseases to conclude that there was a risk in that providers were admitting COVID cases over other, more pressing, health issues. The interviewer abruptly cut him off for no reason and you could tell she was pissed that he said that. That is when I knew the fix was in.
 

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As we can see now with certain groups and outlets holding on to Covid, they are doing so for the money or to be able to keep the emergency powers in place so they can continue to mandate things without voting for it basically. This was about power and money since May of 2020 when it was known that Covid was a disease that only had severe negative consequences for those very old and very sick.
 

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Reality is, if the govt says it is or isn't over, the citizens have turned the page. COVID is still a risk. More or less than a regular flu? Depends on what propaganda you read. But, and this is the scary part, the CDC has cried "wolf" far too much and now nobody is listening. I hope they feel ruining the credibility of the medical industry was worth it. Even today, many news outlets are continuing to sound the alarm bells. There is no self-awareness at all.
I have gotten the flu shot every year but now I am even debating that. My wife has never gotten the flu shot (egg allergy - yes I know there are non-egg shots), but she hasn't had the flu in 35 years. Thankfully we're both very healthy.
 

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As we can see now with certain groups and outlets holding on to Covid, they are doing so for the money or to be able to keep the emergency powers in place so they can continue to mandate things without voting for it basically. This was about power and money since May of 2020 when it was known that Covid was a disease that only had severe negative consequences for those very old and very sick.
I agree...but maybe I was too naive...I thought the medical industry actually cared about people. I am quite certain that most doctors do but the institutional industry is no different than Democrats and Republicans, big business, big religion, news industry, etc.

Can't say it enough:

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I agree...but maybe I was too naive...I thought the medical industry actually cared about people. I am quite certain that most doctors do but the institutional industry is no different than Democrats and Republicans, big business, big religion, news industry, etc.

Can't say it enough:

on-your-own-you-are-on-your-own.gif
Yes, the covid pandemic opened up the eyes to me and a lot of people how broken the current society and government is. special interests now dominate everything.
 
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I have gotten the flu shot every year but now I am even debating that. My wife has never gotten the flu shot (egg allergy - yes I know there are non-egg shots), but she hasn't had the flu in 35 years. Thankfully we're both very healthy.
I haven't had one for quite some time. The wife managed flu clinical studies several years and her opinion is that it's a crapshoot as to whether they have the right mix that particular year.

Anyway, haven't taken anything for allergies for years but they have been bad for me lately. I may actually break down and start taking something for awhile until it improves. I hate taking something for nearly any issue because there are more side effects than we realize if you start taking meds for even minor things.
 
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Yes, the covid pandemic opened up the eyes to me and a lot of people how broken the current society and government is. special interests now dominate everything.
I should have known, really. In my little industry, almost every article is "seeded" by a PR firm. They send out articles on "the wire" and they are picked up by industry periodicals. They are ALL written by vendors but look like they are from the online magazine or blog. Even these "best places to work in X city" is seeded by PR divisions that reward employees for going into their polls and giving positive responses.

It's all BS. All of it.
 

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I haven't had one for quite some time. The wife managed flu clinical studies several years and her opinion is that it's a crapshoot as to whether they have the right mix that particular year.

Anyway, haven't taken anything for allergies for years but they have been bad for me lately. I may actually break down and start taking something for awhile until it improves. I hate taking something for nearly any issue because there are more side effects than we realize if you start taking meds for even minor things.
for allergies, I suggest starting to use local honey. not store bought stuff, the stuff that you find at farm stands and craft fairs type stuff that is from local bee keepers. essentially the theory is that with local bees polinating local fauna, that your body adapts over time to it. It is not something that if you start putting some local honey in your tea on Monday that on Friday your allergies are gone. But it is something that over a couple of years really helps. My wife did it and went from bad allergies to almost no allergies over a few year period.
 

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for allergies, I suggest starting to use local honey. not store bought stuff, the stuff that you find at farm stands and craft fairs type stuff that is from local bee keepers. essentially the theory is that with local bees polinating local fauna, that your body adapts over time to it. It is not something that if you start putting some local honey in your tea on Monday that on Friday your allergies are gone. But it is something that over a couple of years really helps. My wife did it and went from bad allergies to almost no allergies over a few year period.
Maybe I need to make that effort. It's a better solution but they really haven't been bad outside of this year.
 
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I agree...but maybe I was too naive...I thought the medical industry actually cared about people. I am quite certain that most doctors do but the institutional industry is no different than Democrats and Republicans, big business, big religion, news industry, etc.

Can't say it enough:

on-your-own-you-are-on-your-own.gif
Unfortunately even if Dr's do care what do they do. They are quite busy and do they really do research, or do they just google how to handle stuff. And God forbid they attempt to buck the current CDC/FDA wisdom for fear of repercussions or if wrong lawsuit. For those of you with independent thinking docs good for you. I fear they too are in the minority.
 

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Unfortunately even if Dr's do care what do they do. They are quite busy and do they really do research, or do they just google how to handle stuff. And God forbid they attempt to buck the current CDC/FDA wisdom for fear of repercussions or if wrong lawsuit. For those of you with independent thinking docs good for you. I fear they too are in the minority.
most doctors don't have time to go do massive research on Covid and look at all of the data and crunch it, etc....they rely on teh CDC who is being paid billions of dollars to do that. then throw in a lawsuit if they recommend against it and somebody gets sick. so i don't blame the doctors on this one, this is 100% on the CDC and the politicians.
 

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most doctors don't have time to go do massive research on Covid and look at all of the data and crunch it, etc....they rely on teh CDC who is being paid billions of dollars to do that. then throw in a lawsuit if they recommend against it and somebody gets sick. so i don't blame the doctors on this one, this is 100% on the CDC and the politicians.
Every single doctor knew that it was completely harmless to prescribe IVM and/or HCQ. Perfectly safe.

Whether they actually work or not is another matter.

Lots of anecdotal evidence to the positive, zero safety issues.
 

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Every single doctor knew that it was completely harmless to prescribe IVM and/or HCQ. Perfectly safe.

Whether they actually work or not is another matter.

Lots of anecdotal evidence to the positive, zero safety issues.
conversely, no good doctor is going to prescribe a drug, any drug, if they don't know if it will help or not. so doctors didn't have the time to research IVQ or HCQ to see if it had positive affects. so nobody is going to just randomly prescribe it if they don't know if it has a benefit.
 

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conversely, no good doctor is going to prescribe a drug, any drug, if they don't know if it will help or not. so doctors didn't have the time to research IVQ or HCQ to see if it had positive affects. so nobody is going to just randomly prescribe it if they don't know if it has a benefit.
But it wouldn't be "randomly" prescribing it.

It would be prescribing it with a lot of anecdotal evidence and no other known treatment.

There is definitely not only Fauci's "randomized controlled trials" that are evidence. Yes, that's the best evidence, but not the only evidence.
 
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conversely, no good doctor is going to prescribe a drug, any drug, if they don't know if it will help or not. so doctors didn't have the time to research IVQ or HCQ to see if it had positive affects. so nobody is going to just randomly prescribe it if they don't know if it has a benefit.
Remdesivir called and said "hold my beer"
 
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I should have known, really. In my little industry, almost every article is "seeded" by a PR firm. They send out articles on "the wire" and they are picked up by industry periodicals. They are ALL written by vendors but look like they are from the online magazine or blog. Even these "best places to work in X city" is seeded by PR divisions that reward employees for going into their polls and giving positive responses.

It's all BS. All of it.
I love to see that you are smart enough, and honest enough, to state what you see.

We have been on a downward spiral for a long time now.

Our corporations are not serious - meritocracy is gone. Now we have replaced words like "best" with "qualified", so you can put any idiot in a "leadership" position.

Our gubmint is not serious - they have only one goal each day - to do as little work as possible, and get paid as much as possible. The words "competent" and "achievement" are really not even in a gubmint employee's dictionary.

More and more are seeing it.
 

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Interesting data point on vaccine effectiveness from Indiana.

This data suggests that the vaccine is no longer helping at all.

I will post some more of this.

But it surely is hard to accept that you ought to vaccinate any person under 21.

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Interesting data point on vaccine effectiveness.

This data suggests that the vaccine is no longer helping at all.

I will post some more of this.

But it surely is hard to accept that you ought to vaccinate any person under 21.

Indiana-Breakthrough-Deaths-Vaccine-Effectiveness-Sept-2022-Update.png
Deaths per what? People or cases?
 

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Deaths per what? People or cases?
Deaths per 100,000 people in either the vaccinated category or unvaccinated category.

You can see that, early on, the data showed that if you were vaccinated, you had a much lower chance of death than those who were unvaccinated.

The data doesn't show that now.

I am looking for other states that I've used in the past - the breakthrough data from those states seems impossible to find.

@SLUPSU has found that data in the past and perhaps he will help again.
 
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Deaths per 100,000 people in either the vaccinated category or unvaccinated category.

You can see that, early on, the data showed that if you were vaccinated, you had a much lower chance of death than those who were unvaccinated.

The data doesn't show that now.

I am looking for other states that I've used in the past - the breakthrough data from those states seems impossible to find.

SLUPSU has found that data in the past and perhaps he will help again.
Most of the elderly are vaccinated so I would expect more of the vaccinated per 100K to die. Also, if I'm reading your chart correctly, about 1 person per 100K people die each day from covid? If correct, this is a very small number and assumes that the death is coded properly.

Does anyone know if the government is still paying funeral expenses?
 
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Deaths per 100,000 people in either the vaccinated category or unvaccinated category.

You can see that, early on, the data showed that if you were vaccinated, you had a much lower chance of death than those who were unvaccinated.

The data doesn't show that now.

I am looking for other states that I've used in the past - the breakthrough data from those states seems impossible to find.

SLUPSU has found that data in the past and perhaps he will help again.
Except that doesn't tell the whole picture. Unless you know who died the stat is meaningless. If they were healthy 30 year olds you would be concerning. However mass vaccination makes the graph USELESS. Take away all of the under 50's and the difference will be cut in half at a minimum.
 
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Most of the elderly are vaccinated so I would expect more of the vaccinated per 100K to die. Also, if I'm reading your chart correctly, about 1 person per 100K people die each day from covid? If correct, this is a very small number and assumes that the death is coded properly.

Does anyone know if the government is still paying funeral expenses?
There are a lot of problems with the data. Including was it age adjusted? Meaning when we divide by people vaccinated or people unvaccinated, is that number the number for the old age group.

Some of the sites used to say "age-adjusted", both others made no mention of it.

Regardless, one thing is for sure - the previous data suggested that the vaccine was really helping avoid death, and now the data suggests that's not the case.
 

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Deaths per 100,000 people in either the vaccinated category or unvaccinated category.

You can see that, early on, the data showed that if you were vaccinated, you had a much lower chance of death than those who were unvaccinated.

The data doesn't show that now.

I am looking for other states that I've used in the past - the breakthrough data from those states seems impossible to find.

SLUPSU has found that data in the past and perhaps he will help again.
In the Name of inclusiveness we’ve lost standards. Good is bad. Bad is good. A person robbing a bank only did so because society made him. A self made millionaire obviously did so by exploiting people. Every team that plays gets a trophy while the winner is accused of cheating.

as such were no longer seek to improve. Instead of going to class and get better, we go to a club to be entertained We no longer seek to create wealth, we seek to take away wealth.

i went to an Irish American society man of the year celebration a few weeks ago. The winner said when he was a kid he saw that big house on the hill and said ‘a am going to be that guy one day’. Today they say ‘I am going to get that guy one day’.
 
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It was sort of crazy. I was sitting outside at a restaurant in Lancaster across from F&M college. All the people in the street had no masks on. The only masks that you saw were college kids coming over from campus. And these were college kids with masks OUTSIDE walking on the sidewalk. 100% political and nothing to due with Covid.
Laughable. Shows that the everyone gets an ‘A’ crowd will be a big problem for this country. Zero critical thinking. Sad.
 

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