Viagra shown to dramatically reduce heart attacks and deaths from all causes

[The Spin Meister]

A study that looked at a fifteen year history of 23,000 men who took viagra compared to over 40,000 that didn’t take it showed a 39% drop in deaths from all causes. That’s a huge improvement. Heart attacks, strokes, other cardiovascular events. And it appears the men that took more had better results.

BUT this was an observational study looking at past histories, not a double blind controlled study so don’t start chugging them down. It wasn’t a controlled study on just how many pills they took, how regularly they took them, or other issues like smoking, diet and exercise. I would add that most men who this are older, probably 60 or more, so that puts them at higher risk than the general population.

Viagra Linked to Much Lower Risk of Death in Men, But Questions Remain

Men taking Viagra for erectile dysfunction could be saving themselves from an early death, according to the results of a recently published observational study.

www.sciencealert.com

 

[81b&w]

Well that's uplifting news!

 

[Online Persona]

A study that looked at a fifteen year history of 23,000 men who took viagra compared to over 40,000 that didn’t take it showed a 39% drop in deaths from all causes. That’s a huge improvement. Heart attacks, strokes, other cardiovascular events. And it appears the men that took more had better results.

BUT this was an observational study looking at past histories, not a double blind controlled study so don’t start chugging them down. It wasn’t a controlled study on just how many pills they took, how regularly they took them, or other issues like smoking, diet and exercise. I would add that most men who this are older, probably 60 or more, so that puts them at higher risk than the general population.

Viagra Linked to Much Lower Risk of Death in Men, But Questions Remain

Men taking Viagra for erectile dysfunction could be saving themselves from an early death, according to the results of a recently published observational study.

www.sciencealert.com

Hard to beat that!

 

[lazydave841]

Sex is a cardiovascular activity.

Viagra leads to more sex.

Blue pill men having less issues.

Win, win, win, splat.

 

[tlbakernc]

My wife would rather have me dead than walk around with a boner. In fact, think she’d like to have it removed like an unsightly wart.

 

[LMTLION]

My wife would rather have me dead than walk around with a boner. In fact, think she’s like it removed like an unsightly wart.

Sounds like you have a mistress named Rosy Palm!

 

[bdgan]

Hard to beat that!

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[87 Penn St8]

Hard to beat that!

😖

In an earlier iteration of this Board this would earn "The Portland Cement Crack of the Week!"

Made me smile to start the day : )

 

[joeaubie21]

Stand up for the study.

 

[tboyer]

A study that looked at a fifteen year history of 23,000 men who took viagra compared to over 40,000 that didn’t take it showed a 39% drop in deaths from all causes. That’s a huge improvement. Heart attacks, strokes, other cardiovascular events. And it appears the men that took more had better results.

BUT this was an observational study looking at past histories, not a double blind controlled study so don’t start chugging them down. It wasn’t a controlled study on just how many pills they took, how regularly they took them, or other issues like smoking, diet and exercise. I would add that most men who this are older, probably 60 or more, so that puts them at higher risk than the general population.

Viagra Linked to Much Lower Risk of Death in Men, But Questions Remain

Men taking Viagra for erectile dysfunction could be saving themselves from an early death, according to the results of a recently published observational study.

www.sciencealert.com

Certainly not BAD news. Heck, if it helps people have sex who wouldn't otherwise be able to, that could be a reason for lower mortality right there -- something to live for!

There is something called the healthy patient confounder in studies like this. Inevitably the people who know about/can afford the intervention are a more upscale and healthier group than the people who don't. So it tends to bias results in favor of the intervention.

The only way to beat the healthy patient confounder is to have intervention and control groups randomized, not self-selected by patients. These studies are very hard to do and rarely done in the US. When they are done, the results can be surprising.

A large-scale Scandinavian study on colonscopy was recently released and to everybody's surprise it came up empty. The study involved true randomized groups of patients and followed them for 10 or 15 years (which is possible because health systems in Scandinavia are coordinated with death certificates). Anyway it found absolutely no mortality benefit for colonoscopy (at least in a general population). American gastroenterologists are not happy because colonoscopy is a multi-billion dollar business -- so this study will be ignored in the US.

 

[87 Penn St8]

Certainly not BAD news. Heck, if it helps people have sex who wouldn't otherwise be able to, that could be a reason for lower mortality right there -- something to live for!

There is something called the healthy patient confounder in studies like this. Inevitably the people who know about/can afford the intervention are a more upscale and healthier group than the people who don't. So it tends to bias results in favor of the intervention.

The only way to beat the healthy patient confounder is to have intervention and control groups randomized, not self-selected by patients. These studies are very hard to do and rarely done in the US. When they are done, the results can be surprising.

A large-scale Scandinavian study on colonscopy was recently released and to everybody's surprise it came up empty. The study involved true randomized groups of patients and followed them for 10 or 15 years (which is possible because health systems in Scandinavia are coordinated with death certificates). Anyway it found absolutely no mortality benefit for colonoscopy (at least in a general population). American gastroenterologists are not happy because colonoscopy is a multi-billion dollar business -- so this study will be ignored in the US.

My paternal grandfather and uncle died of colon cancer. My father had multiple pollups removed.

My maternal grandfather had a colostomy bag and my mom has had multiple pollups removed.

At my father's insistance I've been getting colonoscopies since I was 25....hate the prep like everyone else. Over the years they have removed benign stuff from me.

Given my family history that is money well spent, but for the general population it seems like a crap shoot (pun intended!)

 

[Ski]

A study that looked at a fifteen year history of 23,000 men who took viagra compared to over 40,000 that didn’t take it showed a 39% drop in deaths from all causes. That’s a huge improvement. Heart attacks, strokes, other cardiovascular events. And it appears the men that took more had better results.

BUT this was an observational study looking at past histories, not a double blind controlled study so don’t start chugging them down. It wasn’t a controlled study on just how many pills they took, how regularly they took them, or other issues like smoking, diet and exercise. I would add that most men who this are older, probably 60 or more, so that puts them at higher risk than the general population.

Viagra Linked to Much Lower Risk of Death in Men, But Questions Remain

Men taking Viagra for erectile dysfunction could be saving themselves from an early death, according to the results of a recently published observational study.

www.sciencealert.com

Viagra raises blood pressure in a certain area, but ironically lowers it in the rest of the body. This may be an indication that men should be taking blood pressure medications earlier in life.

 

[JayWye]

My wife would rather have me dead than walk around with a boner. In fact, think she’d like to have it removed like an unsightly wart.

Have you tried an exotic cologne?

 

[Ski]

Have you tried an exotic cologne?

In some states it is illegal to use Hai Karate and Colt 45 together on a date.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

This has me straight up excited!

 

[87 Penn St8]

In some states it is illegal to use Hai Karate and Colt 45 together on a date.

Billy Dee Williams taught me that Colt 45 "works every time!"

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[LionFan87b]

Certainly not BAD news. Heck, if it helps people have sex who wouldn't otherwise be able to, that could be a reason for lower mortality right there -- something to live for!

There is something called the healthy patient confounder in studies like this. Inevitably the people who know about/can afford the intervention are a more upscale and healthier group than the people who don't. So it tends to bias results in favor of the intervention.

The only way to beat the healthy patient confounder is to have intervention and control groups randomized, not self-selected by patients. These studies are very hard to do and rarely done in the US. When they are done, the results can be surprising.

A large-scale Scandinavian study on colonscopy was recently released and to everybody's surprise it came up empty. The study involved true randomized groups of patients and followed them for 10 or 15 years (which is possible because health systems in Scandinavia are coordinated with death certificates). Anyway it found absolutely no mortality benefit for colonoscopy (at least in a general population). American gastroenterologists are not happy because colonoscopy is a multi-billion dollar business -- so this study will be ignored in the US.

In order to take Viagra you most likely need to be in a happy relationship and otherwise healthy enough and interested enough to have sex. Those factors alone might indicate better health to begin with. In other words, if you took the same men from that study and refused to let them have Viagra, they may have lived longer anyway.

 

[The Spin Meister]

In order to take Viagra you most likely need to be in a happy relationship and otherwise healthy enough and interested enough to have sex. Those factors alone might indicate better health to begin with. In other words, if you took the same men from that study and refused to let them have Viagra, they may have lived longer anyway.

Yep. Discussed in article

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Yep. Discussed in article

Yep