"We don't want another Richard Jewell on our hands."

[BobPSU92]

I watched an old Law & Order SVU episode while eating this breakfast this morning. Actually, I wasn't paying close attention to the episode until I heard one of the cops say "We don't want another Richard Jewell on our hands" in regards to catching the wrong guy. Too bad they didn't take a direct shot at freeh.

freeh sucks. What a legacy.

 

[anon_is9z1n0h3zblb]

Don't forget the media's role in Richard Jewel's presumed guilt. National news and the local rags all spewing innuendo and flat out lies. How little things change

 

[Aoshiro]

Don't forget the media's role in Richard Jewel's presumed guilt. National news and the local rags all spewing innuendo and flat out lies. How little things change

The media were printing what Freeh and his minions were feeding them. This is Freeh's MO.

 

[RentechCEO]

The media were printing what Freeh and his minions were feeding them. This is Freeh's MO.

You know the media ruined Richard Jewell. Not Freeh. You are wrong about this. Glad you brought it up though.

 

[simons96]

You know the media ruined Richard Jewell. Not Freeh. You are wrong about this. Glad you brought it up though.

you know it was the Freeh led FBI that named him as a suspect and leaked info from their investigation to the press.

gawd, you are becoming annoying.

 

[simons96]

The Ballad of Richard Jewell

This case has everything—the F.B.I., the press, the violation of the Bill of Rights, from the First to the Sixth Amendment," Watson Bryant told me in one of our first conversations. It has become common to characterize the F.B.I.'s investigation of Richard Jewell as the epitome of false accusation. The phrase "the Jewell syndrome," a rush to judgment, has entered the language of newsrooms and First Amendment forums. On the night of Jewell's press conference, a commentator on CNN's Crossfire compared Jewell's situation to "Kafka in Prague." The case became an investigative catastrophe, which laid bare long-simmering resentments of many F.B.I. career professionals regarding the micromanagement style and imperious attitude of Louis Freeh and his inner circle of former New York prosecutors, who have worked together since their days at the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District. Within the bureau, the beleaguered director now has a new nickname: J. Edgar Hoover with children. Like Freeh, those near him have also acquired a nickname: Louie's yes-men. Two of Freeh's closest associates, F.B.I. general counsel Howard Shapiro and former deputy director Larry Potts, have been severely criticized, respectively, for advising the White House of confidential F.B.I. material and for an alleged cover-up of the mishandling of the 1992 standoff at Ruby Ridge, where F.B.I. agents killed the wife and son of Randy Weaver, a white supremacist.

In November and December, the Office of Professional Responsibility conducted an exhaustive investigation into the Jewell affair. Responding to an attempt by headquarters and certain officials to distance themselves, according to F.B.I. sources, several agents, including a senior F.B.I. supervisor in Atlanta, have provided the O.P.R. with signed statements insisting that Freeh himself was responsible for "oversight" during the crisis. These agents "shocked the investigators" because they reiterated, when asked who was in charge of the overall command of the investigation, that it was the director himself.

 

[ChiTownLion]

Rentech, you're doing a great job of coming off purposely obtuse. Keep up the good work.

Anywho, I believe Jim Clemente is a contributing writer to Law & Order SVU.

 

[simons96]

Rentech, you're doing a great job of coming off purposely obtuse. Keep up the good work.

Anywho, I believe Jim Clemente is a contributing writer to Law & Order SVU.

Clemente has written for Criminal Minds and was a technical adviser on Secrets & Lies

though I am certain a number of cases he investigated have made their way (in certain details) to SVU

and yes, Rentech's true colors are showing more and more these days. the inquisitive ingenue act worked for a few weeks,

 

[RentechCEO]

you know it was the Freeh led FBI that named him as a suspect and leaked info from their investigation to the press.

gawd, you are becoming annoying.

Yeah, the truth can be that way but you need to hear it. The FBI was contacted by Jewell's boss at Piedmont College and told that he thought they should check out Jewell. The FBI dutifully checked out Jewell and the Atlanta Police leaked to the Atlanta Journal Constitution that Jewell was a suspect. The AJC then reported him a suspect and the media took it from there. Saying Freeh leaked that info or ordered it leaked is without proof and irresponsible.

As a matter of fact, some FBI Agents in Atlanta tried to trick Jewell into confessing and it was Freeh who personally called that office and told them to stop the interview and read Jewell his rights. Freeh, in this case helped Jewell by stopping his agents (who he later disciplined) from mishandling the case.

The Justice Department accepted responsiblity for Jewell's misfortune but it was the media that did the damage.

 

[simons96]

yawn

 

[RentechCEO]

yawn

 

[jj410]

You know the media ruined Richard Jewell. Not Freeh. You are wrong about this. Glad you brought it up though.

If anything, the media has been carrying Freeh's water forever.
Here's your buddie, an incompetent sleazeball: http://www.salon.com/2002/06/04/freeh/:
"It’s no secret the FBI suffered a series of embarrassments during Freeh’s tenure, some of them deadly. They include the botched handling of the investigations into Waco and Ruby Ridge; the bombing at the Atlanta Olympic Village and the heavy-handed tactics used against Richard Jewell; the breakdown of the FBI crime labs; the inept pursuit of suspected atomic spy Wen Ho Lee; the belated discovery of turncoat agent Richard Hanssen; and the failure to deliver thousands of documents to defense attorneys during the trial of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh. The FBI fiascoes seemed to come like clockwork under Freeh, and they continue to roll out to this day. A recently uncovered March 2000 memo reveals that agents mistakenly destroyed evidence gathered in an investigation involving Osama bin Laden...Since 1994, all new FBI agents have to take a polygraph test, but Smith says Freeh left office without ever submitting to one. He tried to promote to deputy a friend implicated in the Ruby Ridge killing. And he personally approved the use of photographic suspect lineups during the Oklahoma City bombing investigation, a decision usually left to field agents...There’s an unholy trinity of Democrats, Republicans and the press that wants to forget Louis Freeh ever existed and screwed all of this up,” explains the former Clinton aide. “We could have fired him. But we kept an incompetent man in charge of the most important agency in the world and we did it out of political fear. That’s the reality. It’s not pretty, but it’s the truth. Republicans have to admit they helped Freeh keep his job. And the New York Times [has] to understand its complacency for what passed [at the time] as news coverage of Louis Freeh.”"

 

[RentechCEO]

Here's your buddie, an incompetent sleazeball: http://www.salon.com/2002/06/04/freeh/:
"It’s no secret the FBI suffered a series of embarrassments during Freeh’s tenure, some of them deadly. They include the botched handling of the investigations into Waco and Ruby Ridge; the bombing at the Atlanta Olympic Village and the heavy-handed tactics used against Richard Jewell; the breakdown of the FBI crime labs; the inept pursuit of suspected atomic spy Wen Ho Lee; the belated discovery of turncoat agent Richard Hanssen; and the failure to deliver thousands of documents to defense attorneys during the trial of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh. The FBI fiascoes seemed to come like clockwork under Freeh, and they continue to roll out to this day. A recently uncovered March 2000 memo reveals that agents mistakenly destroyed evidence gathered in an investigation involving Osama bin Laden...Since 1994, all new FBI agents have to take a polygraph test, but Smith says Freeh left office without ever submitting to one. He tried to promote to deputy a friend implicated in the Ruby Ridge killing. And he personally approved the use of photographic suspect lineups during the Oklahoma City bombing investigation, a decision usually left to field agents."

Freeh was not even in the FBI when Ruby Ridge happened. Richard Hanssen was spying through FOUR previous FBI directors and Freeh caught him. Had the FBI not investigated Jewell after his boss called it in would have been negligent but it was the media that ruined Jewell. BTW you can go through every FBI director and find foulups especially J. Edgar who routinely violated the Constitution but to say Freeh personally caused those foul ups is ludicrous. Salon? Really?

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

Truly schizophrenic! Amazing command of facts that support your point of view and total obtusity regarding facts that do not support your POV. I think the clinical term is "Passive-Dumbassive" (with a twist of confirmation bias).

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

Freeh was not even in the FBI when Ruby Ridge happened. Richard Hanssen was spying through FOUR previous FBI directors and Freeh caught him. Had the FBI not investigated Jewell after his boss called it in would have been negligent but it was the media that ruined Jewell. BTW you can go through every FBI director and find foulups especially J. Edgar who routinely violated the Constitution but to say Freeh personally caused those foul ups is ludicrous. Salon? Really?

You need to go back to J. Edgar to find someone with a similar record as Freeh's? That speaks for itself!

 

[chrisrn1965]

Freeh was not even in the FBI when Ruby Ridge happened. Richard Hanssen was spying through FOUR previous FBI directors and Freeh caught him. Had the FBI not investigated Jewell after his boss called it in would have been negligent but it was the media that ruined Jewell. BTW you can go through every FBI director and find foulups especially J. Edgar who routinely violated the Constitution but to say Freeh personally caused those foul ups is ludicrous. Salon? Really?

I thought you were going away? Why don't you stick to the FSU board. You would think that there is enough to talk about there regarding how the Tallahassee PD handles cases involving FSU players.

 

[RentechCEO]

Truly schizophrenic! Amazing command of facts that support your point of view and total obtusity regarding facts that do not support your POV. I think the clinical term is "Passive-Dumbassive" (with a twist of confirmation bias).

I love it when you talk dirty.

 

[RentechCEO]

You need to go back to J. Edgar to find someone with a similar record as Freeh's? That speaks for itself!

Nah, they ALL had their issues. But you guys only blame Freeh cause he didn't write what you wanted him to.

 

[RentechCEO]

I thought you were going away? Why don't you stick to the FSU board. You would think that there is enough to talk about there regarding how the Tallahassee PD handles cases involving FSU players.

No, I never said that. Only left that thread. I wouldn't throw stones in a glass house. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915.
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[chrisrn1965]

Nah, they ALL had their issues. But you guys only blame Freeh cause he didn't write what you wanted him to.

BTW what is your agenda here? It seems to be you are only here to troll. You initially appeared claiming to want information and our perspective but all that you do is continue to argue in support of the Freeh narrative.

 

[RentechCEO]

BTW what is your agenda here? It seems to be you are only here to troll. You initially appeared claiming to want information and our perspective but all that you do is continue to argue in support of the Freeh narrative.

The truth. I haven't said I fully accept Freeh's narrative but you guys making up things about Freeh just to discredit him is wrong and won't get at the truth either. I'm fully open to new information and discussion but a lot of you don't seem to have any and other than a lot of personal attacks and conspiracy theories without proof is frustrating. The scandal interests me and you guys know most about it (some of you) and those are the ones I am talking to. The others are just noise. As I said before I would have asked these long ago but couldn't. Now I can.

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

No, I never said that. Only left that thread. I wouldn't throw stones in a glass house. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915.

BTW, I have some first hand knowledge of James Franklin and his time at Vanderbilt. Just wait my friend.

I'd rather hear about you first hand knowledge of Jameis Winston.

 

[RentechCEO]

I'd rather hear about you first hand knowledge of Jameis Winston.

What do you want to know?