What do you think the three most important weight classes are for PSU?
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40 for 141/197/285 will give PSU 145-150 total - which will be impossible for the Buckeyes to overcome. (Assuming a healthy Nolf making the finals)
Nick Lee has a tough draw. I think if we get even 28 from 141/197/285, PSU is in great shape.
That said, it’s going to be a challenge to get 28 at 141+197+285. Lee would have to AA, or Rasheed would have to finish 3rd-5th with a few pins.
Rasheed needs to return to his days of the quick takedown and then locking up that amazing cradle. Bonus points needed. Nevills needs to take care of business, end up in the semis and then wrestle back for third. Nick Lee needs to get to quarters and then at least wrestle back for AA.
157,165,197. If Nolf and Joseph are both wrestling Sat. Night and Shak is top 6 I feel PSU will be home free. That is assuming that Zain, Mark, and Bo do what they do as well. Nobody will overcome 5 finalists points wise.
Ohio State could have 9 all-americans and possibly 5 finalists (Tomasello, McKenna, Martin, Moore and Snyder). Two excellent teams going at it.
History says either PSU & OSU will not live up to expectations. The other will win.
I know which way I'm betting ...
I know which way I'm betting ...
I don't think all five will make it. I give McKenna about a 25% chance and Tomasello is a 50/50. I could see Moore laying an egg too. I'm thinking they get 3 or 4 finalists but PSU gets 4 or 5 if Nolf is Nolf.
I'll also go with 141, 197 and 285. If Jason is healthy I'm confident that we can win it all assuming Lee finishes Top 8 AA, Shak Top 5 AA, and Nick Top 5 AA as well. I have confidence that Zain, Mark, Jason, and Bo are going to be racking up the bonus to offset any potential short falls elsewhere. I believe Shak and Nick can contribute on the backside with bonus as well. Keener will give us whatever he can, while I believe Cenzo and Big Nick will be in tighter matches based on competition and their own styles.
Lee and Shak both need to AA, or one of them needs to go deep ... about 20 points between them.
If they do that and Nick simply repeats his 5th place finish (10 points), that should be enough. Anything above 30 points from 141/197/285 would be gravy IMO.
If they do that and Nick simply repeats his 5th place finish (10 points), that should be enough. Anything above 30 points from 141/197/285 would be gravy IMO.
The three #3 seeds [157,165,285]. Gotta have all advance.
-Nolf vs health & Kemerer
-Joseph vs the wildcard that is Lewis
-Nevills vs the en fuego [lately] Dhesi
The #6 seeds in this years tourney look as tough as ever and our #3's have 3 of the toughest #6's out there.
Top to bottom, this years #6's would probably win a dual meet over this years #4's. In fact, I think most already own victory's at some point in their careers.
I'll feel a lot better Friday afternoon if all can get thru to the semis.
-Nolf vs health & Kemerer
-Joseph vs the wildcard that is Lewis
-Nevills vs the en fuego [lately] Dhesi
The #6 seeds in this years tourney look as tough as ever and our #3's have 3 of the toughest #6's out there.
Top to bottom, this years #6's would probably win a dual meet over this years #4's. In fact, I think most already own victory's at some point in their careers.
I'll feel a lot better Friday afternoon if all can get thru to the semis.
157/141/197
The rest I think we know what we are going to get....within a place or two. Jason needs to be Jason. Lee needs to initiate. Same with Shak.
BT’s we appeared tentative to shoot and too willing to ride. If Shak can’t lock the cradle early, play catch and release and let the other guy make a mistake. Then be Ruthless.
The rest I think we know what we are going to get....within a place or two. Jason needs to be Jason. Lee needs to initiate. Same with Shak.
BT’s we appeared tentative to shoot and too willing to ride. If Shak can’t lock the cradle early, play catch and release and let the other guy make a mistake. Then be Ruthless.
Mark it down Ohio State has Snyder in the finals that's it Moore is a possibility the rest will be gone in semis. I don't think Martin can hang with some of the he falls off at times
165, 174 and 184. Need those guys to perform as close to their best as they possibly can. We need our horses to be horses.
I'm going a different direction than some... I'm going with the chalk: 149, 174, 184. Across all weights I think we'll win most matches we should, maybe lose a surprise one, but also maybe pick up a couple surprise wins too, so I'm going with the heavy favorite classes as my most important because I think those three need to PIN their way through the semis for the purposes of team score. The B1G tourney lacked a bit of the usual dominance from some guys, and we’ll need it now.
We need just a tiny supprise at 133 looks like maybe even 0 points with his draw, 141 needs some early bonus and assuming Meredith takes him out. If Nick could then deliver something good in consis, 197 what we all thought was a race to the semis maybe more,... after his performance vs Moore, we are all just wondering what we have with him. I think Shak's chances of a bad surprise unfortunately outweigh the chances of a pleasant surprise right now. We could do pretty poorly in all three weights, then again some Cael March prep magic could help seal the deal. Nevills delivering up to his seed would be awesome.
Just curious... who has Martin fallen off against this year besides Nickal? He’s beaten Abounader 3 times and Renda. He’s been actually fairly dominant which makes his two performances against Nickal all the more disappointing. Last year’s Moore absolutely fits the description of someone easily capable of falling off at some point somewhere. I would be just as shocked of Martin not makin the finals as you would Nickal not. But I don’t think he can beat Nickal unless Nickal makes another colossal mistake going upper body with him.
I mostly agree. However, Martin wrestled poorly on bottom against Bo. Preisch is an animal on top. Martin could be susceptible there. Martin should win, but it's not automatic.
Anyone beating Martin this year before the finals would do so in a significant upset. He’s an improved wrestler.
It can happen, but I’m picking Nickal/ Martin as the 2nd most likely #1vs #2 finals match after Snyder vs Coon.
Hello diggerpup. 40 might be a little overzealous, however...those three wrestling to seed with not one bonus win would be almost exactly 28. I think 28 is not too much above worst case, although I do agree with you on NLee’s path/draw being a problem. I do believe that Lee/Rasheed wrestled about as poorly as they possibly could last week with a plan to peak next weekend(Cael’s really good at that). I very much expect those two to be much better. Wrestlestat’s simulation had all three combining for 44.5 points, but I don’t see that happening and probably an absolute best case scenario.
I’d set my o/u for these three at 35, but still hoping for more
Take care
