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What is worse?

Easy. Losing to ND.

Ohio State is clearly a better team than us and has been for years. More talent. Better coaching in key positions. Just a flat out higher performing team.

ND is AT BEST even with us, but probably a very slight notch below us. This is a team we should have beat. The last time we were legitimately a better team than OSU was probably 2017.
 
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Losing to ND or beating ND and losing again to OSU ?
Losing to ND
If Ohio State beat us I could live with that-they're the best team and we know they're the best team
We're better than ND and couldn't prove it on the field
 
Losing to ND or beating ND and losing again to OSU ?
This loss, even as close as it was, gave pompous talking heads like Portnoy ammunition to try to say this season was not successful, i.e. "They didn't beat anybody!".

Losing to Ohio State next game it would have been difficult for anyone to paint us in a negative light.
 
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I would have rather lost to Notre Dame IF AND ONLY IF PSU would have gotten blown out on an embarrassing level by Ohio State in the National Championship game. (3+ TD's blowout)
 
Easy. Losing to ND.

Ohio State is clearly a better team than us and has been for years. More talent. Better coaching in key positions. Just a flat out higher performing team.

ND is AT BEST even with us, but probably a very slight notch below us. This is a team we should have beat. The last time we were legitimately a better team than OSU was probably 2017.
You can sum up OSU and Cheatigans' success in one word MONEY. Money for players money for coaches and facilities. Hopefully next year the financial playing field gets leveled by the NCAA.
 
You can sum up OSU and Cheatigans' success in one word MONEY. Money for players money for coaches and facilities. Hopefully next year the financial playing field gets leveled by the NCAA.
How? NIL can't be restricted. What do you want them to do?
 
How they lost adds to the intensity of the current downer.

That said, losing in a final casts a pall over a season for a lifetime, and reminders pop up when a list or highlight is shown in following years. I’d rather not discuss the ‘78 or ‘85 seasons.

A better time for the question probably would have been after the final game has been played.
 
You can sum up OSU and Cheatigans' success in one word MONEY. Money for players money for coaches and facilities. Hopefully next year the financial playing field gets leveled by the NCAA.

But OSU just beat two teams with more money -- more money for recruits and players, and more money for facilities. Oregon outspends everybody -- but that doesn't guarantee anything.

ND is probably way down the NIL list, and they're playing for a title.

Coaching matters and player execution/talent matters.
 
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We were a better team than ND, and we lost. That's what is so frustrating. Four or five plays we didn't execute on or made mistakes on...otherwise we win. They made the plays....we didn't...so credit to them.

That being said, with so many saying we didn't belong or we didn't beat anyone. Have you looked at ND's pathetic schedule?

I hope tOSU puts a beatdown on them and their insufferable fanbase. Hopefully they are pressured into joining a conference as no favors should be afforded to them. They aren't that special.
 
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But OSU just beat two teams with more money -- more money for recruits and players, and more money for facilities. Oregon outspends everybody -- but that doesn't guarantee anything.

ND is probably way down the NIL list, and they're playing for a title.

Coaching matters and player execution/talent matters.
When you're a multi-millionaire it really doesn't matter that the next person has twice as much as you do as in OSU and OR you can still buy the same things the other guy does.

ND has upped their NIL significantly there has been a change of mind at ND recently on how they are going to go about their business. But like PS they still have standards they will enforce.

There were imo coaching mistakes and player mistakes in the Orange Bowl, but those things happen in all games no games are mistake free.

You can't win big games without a complete offense and PS hasn't had that all year. You have to have Wide Receivers and PS has none that can play consistently at this level against good competition. The WO coaching and recruiting has been a hot mess for years. That has to change. The coaching must be better the recruiting must be better portal gets must be better and the NIL for that room has to be much better. Get those things fixed and its problem solved.

Three or Four catches by the WO's in that game and PS wins. But none? There's your problem.

I never at any time thought this edition of PS Football was national caliber and those who did were off the mark imo. But when we got past those first two games, I thought we had a shot, but it was not to be.

The program just isn't at that National level yet so I would suggest we all come back down to earth.

Where the program is concerned the sky isn't falling but has been steadily improving. Is that improvement at the pace we would all like? NO! But improving under James Franklin it is and he's doing it the right way. So, I suggest we don't throw the baby out with the wash at least at this time.

In fact, at this time there is no way PS could make a move on Franklin even if they wanted to and they don't. So, I suggest that if a segment of the board want him gone get together and raise the money to buy him out not that PS would accept the offer.
 
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